Game Day RD 24 vs. Melbourne. Fri 22/08 @ 7:10pm (MCG)

[stormskye]

Where the hell are you getting the information that he "refused" to play?

Big dog on twitter.

 

[jmac70]

There was a rumor that he pulled out of the VFL game because he was angry about Bobby's non inclusion in the team for the Crows game. Why is that not a relevant piece of info to discuss or question on a footy forum designed for opinions and discussion? People post rumors all the time. It does seem strange that he didn't play when he is fit. If true it is another spot fire and these are the last thing a club wants on the eve of a finals campaign after five losses in six games.

Because it’s complete rubbish.

 

[Kappa]

None of your business.

Strange the club named him to play then isn't it

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

Strange the club named him to play then isn't it

Is it impossible that he woke up on game day crook? Wouldn't have thought that would be strange.

Why not just come out and say what's on your mind instead of being mealy-mouthed as usual.

 

[BillyElliott]

People post journos rumors regularly. Dwayne Russell reported that Degoey had reinjured himself last week and probably wouldn't play against the Crows. He was wrong. We moved on. As long as the poster says this is a rumor and gives a source what is the problem?

Right now, Rankine is the subject of rumour and an accusation from an unnamed source. People have been happy to discuss that. We don't know whether Rankine used a homophobic slur-it's all conjecture. Why is that one- which is far more damaging to Rankine's reputation apparently okay but the AJ one is not?

The AFL have confirmed they are investigating Rankine for a homophobic slur.

Adelaide star Izak Rankine is under AFL investigation for allegedly using a homophobic slur during the game against Collingwood on Saturday night.

The AFL confirmed on Monday that its integrity unit is looking into the alleged on-field incident.

“The AFL is aware of an alleged matter with the Integrity Unit making enquiries,” a league spokesperson said.

Hardly the same as randoms posting a rumour on a Facebook post

 

[stormskye]

Strange the club named him to play then isn't it

Why are you obsessed with this? Obviously there’s issues off field. The club are stuck between a rock and hard place. They can’t report on it.

Send an email to the club perhaps?

Or just accept he’s not playing.

With Howe back this week we are one of the better placed teams injury wise with only Bobby out. Can’t really complain

 

[No SPIN]

I can’t see him being selected either, but his VFL form since his return must at least have him in the selection discussion.

And - hopefully NOT delist discussions

 

[BillyElliott]

Strange the club named him to play then isn't it

If you say so Kap. I didn't say why he didn't play. Just posed a possible explanation.

It does happen when players are named and withdrawn late though doesn't it? If you find that strange, so be it.

 

[BillyElliott]

Why are you obsessed with this? Obviously there’s issues off field. The club are stuck between a rock and hard place. They can’t report on it.

Send an email to the club perhaps?

Or just accept he’s not playing.

With Howe back this week we are one of the better placed teams injury wise with only Bobby out. Can’t really complain

He's referring to Ash now in the selection & not playing.

 

[Kappa]

If you say so Kap.

It does happen when players are named and withdrawn late though doesn't it? If you find that strange, so be it.

No, it's not strange.

Players are late withdrawals without being injured all the time... right? And no explanation from the club... I guess you don't find that strange because... it suits your narrative.

And because I've ruined your argument you're now gonna change topic and say I'm obsessed. Maybe it's not a big deal, maybe it is. It's certainly worth mentioning, if you find that strange, so be it.

 

[sr36]

Where the hell are you getting the information that he "refused" to play?

It was carefully selected and edited to be published on social media, so it's got to be legit.

 

[Vicky Park]

There was a rumor that he pulled out of the VFL game because he was angry about Bobby's non inclusion in the team for the Crows game. Why is that not a relevant piece of info to discuss or question on a footy forum designed for opinions and discussion? People post rumors all the time. It does seem strange that he didn't play when he is fit. If true it is another spot fire and these are the last thing a club wants on the eve of a finals campaign after five losses in six games.

My post was directed at Kappa who has a tendency to jump to conclusions, speculate on rumours, and throw in some innuendo. That was why I pointedly asked if he/she ‘ever stopped’.

 

[BillyElliott]

No, it's not strange.

Players are late withdrawals without being injured all the time... right? And no explanation from the club... I guess you don't find that strange because... it suits your narrative.

And because I've ruined your argument you're now gonna change topic and say I'm obsessed. Maybe it's not a big deal, maybe it is. It's certainly worth mentioning, if you find that strange, so be it.

What argument was ruined? When did I say you were obsessed. What narrative?

What the hell are you banging on about?

You asked if Ash was at training today. Multiple people have told you he was.

You then asked why he didn't play on the weekend. I told you his gf's grandfather passed away during the week, so perhaps he could have been at the funeral.

And yes, players are selected and withdrawn late. We all know that. For a variety of reasons.

If you have another explanation, just say so. But it just appears as if you're fishing for something controversial.

 

[whiskeytown]

Won clearance, won inside 50… any other week they win that game. No need to change the formula much imo…

Likely only 1 change if Howe fit… and possibly none if he needs another week

Coach not giving off great vibes on Hill… doubt he’s selected this week

 

[LuckyLee]

Sure, let’s drop the games best I50 kick

If Hill was available, I'd drop Lipinski in a heartbeat. Unfortunately that doesn't seem likely.

Lipa is a great kick but he's a huge liability when it comes to applying pressure and winning the ball back from the opposition. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. When it comes to team-wide defensive pressure, that's him.

We saw a similar drop in Lipa's efforts/effectiveness late in 2023. He only just hung onto his place in that side, scraping in as sub for the GF. I'll be surprised if the same will be tolerated a second time around.

 

[domus]

The AFL have confirmed they are investigating Rankine for a homophobic slur.

Adelaide star Izak Rankine is under AFL investigation for allegedly using a homophobic slur during the game against Collingwood on Saturday night.

The AFL confirmed on Monday that its integrity unit is looking into the alleged on-field incident.

“The AFL is aware of an alleged matter with the Integrity Unit making enquiries,” a league spokesperson said.

Hardly the same as randoms posting a rumour on a Facebook post

It is still an unconfirmed rumour. The AFL confirmed that they are investigating. Until Rankine speaks we don't know. But everyone is happy to jump in on that. Just because the media are ramming it down our throats doesn't make it any truer. Look at the endless rubbish published about Degoey. They get it wrong all the time. Why is that any different?

The media suggested Collingwood players are disgruntled over contract negotiations. Where is the confirmation that this is true? That's been another well discussed rumor. Do you place journalists on a higher level of integrity than the average punter? Now that is hilarious.

 

[JuniorB]

If Hill was available, I'd drop Lipinski in a heartbeat. Unfortunately that doesn't seem likely.

Lipa is a great kick but he's a huge liability when it comes to applying pressure and winning the ball back from the opposition. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. When it comes to team-wide defensive pressure, that's him.

We saw a similar drop in Lipa's efforts/effectiveness late in 2023. He only just hung onto his place in that side, scraping in as sub for the GF. I'll be surprised if the same will be tolerated a second time around.

I'd drop Lippa, play Allan on the wing, and Sidey back in the guts.

 

[domus]

If Hill was available, I'd drop Lipinski in a heartbeat. Unfortunately that doesn't seem likely.

Lipa is a great kick but he's a huge liability when it comes to applying pressure and winning the ball back from the opposition. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. When it comes to team-wide defensive pressure, that's him.

We saw a similar drop in Lipa's efforts/effectiveness late in 2023. He only just hung onto his place in that side, scraping in as sub for the GF. I'll be surprised if the same will be tolerated a second time around.

When he is struggling, he looks terrible. He looks slow and he looks soft. That may be unfair but that's the impression I get. At his best he is all class and his disposal is elite, but you have to win the ball before you can use it.

 

[BillyElliott]

It is still an unconfirmed rumour. The AFL confirmed that they are investigating. Until Rankine speaks we don't know. But everyone is happy to jump in on that. Just because the media are ramming it down our throats doesn't make it any truer. Look at the endless rubbish published about Degoey. They get it wrong all the time. Why is that any different?

The media suggesting Collingwood players are disgruntled over contract negotiations. Where is the confirmation that this is true? That's been another well discussed rumor. Do you place journalists on a higher level of integrity than the average punter? Now that is hilarious.

Geez, I merely suggested the AFL making a statement has more credence than a random posting a rumour on facebook.

I'm happy to stand by that.

 

[larrikan]

Im not sure the playing group would give Hill a free pass.

Players like DeGoey have worked their arse off all season to get back into the team. There are VFL players working hard to get into the finals side. Is it ok for Hill to miss multiple training sessions, withdraw from games and decide when he is ready.

I just cant see Fly and the players accepting his availability without a solid commitment to training and time at the club.

We can speculate the reasons why he is not playing but we know he is not at training every session. This is not good with finals coming up.

It must be so frustrating for Fly and the playing group.

You cant make a case today for Hill into the team and tell Steele or Macrae they missed out.

When was Hills last full game or a solid block of training sessions?

Team is bigger than the individual.

 

[jmac70]

It is still an unconfirmed rumour. The AFL confirmed that they are investigating. Until Rankine speaks we don't know. But everyone is happy to jump in on that. Just because the media are ramming it down our throats doesn't make it any truer. Look at the endless rubbish published about Degoey. They get it wrong all the time. Why is that any different?

The media suggested Collingwood players are disgruntled over contract negotiations. Where is the confirmation that this is true? That's been another well discussed rumor. Do you place journalists on a higher level of integrity than the average punter? Now that is hilarious.

It’s not a rumour.
It’s an allegation.

 

[jmac70]

Im not sure the playing group would give Hill a free pass.

Players like DeGoey have worked their arse off all season to get back into the team. There are VFL players working hard to get into the finals side. Is it ok for Hill to miss multiple training sessions, withdraw from games and decide when he is ready.

I just cant see Fly and the players accepting his availability without a solid commitment to training and time at the club.

We can speculate the reasons why he is not playing but we know he is not at training every session. This is not good with finals coming up.

It must be so frustrating for Fly and the playing group.

You cant make a case today for Hill into the team and tell Steele or Macrae they missed out.

When was Hills last full game or a solid block of training sessions?

Team is bigger than the individual.

I’d imagine the playing group will continue to support Bobby and would love to have him back.

 

[LuckyLee]

It is still an unconfirmed rumour. The AFL confirmed that they are investigating. Until Rankine speaks we don't know. But everyone is happy to jump in on that. Just because the media are ramming it down our throats doesn't make it any truer. Look at the endless rubbish published about Degoey. They get it wrong all the time. Why is that any different?

The media suggested Collingwood players are disgruntled over contract negotiations. Where is the confirmation that this is true? That's been another well discussed rumor. Do you place journalists on a higher level of integrity than the average punter? Now that is hilarious.

Its going to be very interesting if Rankine comes out and flat-out denies saying it. Unless there are other players who heard it and are willing to say so, or it was picked up by broadcast microphones, it quickly collapses down into our player's word against his. What happens then? Wouldn't the presumption of innocence until proven (or admitted) guilt see him get off?

 

[Kappa]

I’d imagine the playing group will continue to support Bobby and would love to have him back.

You have no idea how the playing group feel, and I doubt 45 people all feel the exact same way.

 

[jmac70]

Its going to be very interesting if Rankine comes out and flat-out denies saying it. Unless there are other players who heard it and are willing to say so, or it was picked up in by broadcast microphones, it quickly collapses down into our player's word against his. What happens then? Wouldn't the presumption of innocence until proven (or admitted) guilt see him get off?

It has been reported that Rankin rang the Pies player to apologise.