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List Mgmt. 2025 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

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Superstar swan said:
What’s the difference?

If it’s pick 9 and whatever for pick 2 from wce

And we immediately on trade pick 2 to Carlton

We are essentially still paying pick 9 and whatever machinations for curnow . Does it make a difference if it’s a 3 way trade on paper or not ?

Swans get : curnow and some pick
Wce get : pick 9 and f1
Carlton get : pick 2
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West coast aren’t going to trade pick 2 for that.
 
Superstar swan said:
What’s the difference?

If it’s pick 9 and whatever for pick 2 from wce

And we immediately on trade pick 2 to Carlton

We are essentially still paying pick 9 and whatever machinations for curnow . Does it make a difference if it’s a 3 way trade on paper or not ?

Swans get : curnow and some pick
Wce get : pick 9 and f1
Carlton get : pick 2
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It's a huge difference, it is overpay. There is literally no need to involve WCE, they aren't trading pick 2 for approx two pick 15's, essentially you are asking two clubs to get screwed so Carlton get pick 2. That's where looking at the DVI isn't the way to do it. You are asking us to overpay twice. We shouldn't even overpay once. Pick 9 plus a f1 is PLENTY for Curnow and that's on the 'overs' side. Add Florent for the steaknives if you want.
 

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Superstar swan said:
In that deal everyone gets something of high value and we keep Logan and all asset players
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West Coast don't. What are they getting that's high value, our future 1 could be as bad as pick 16+ and this year pick 9 is about pick 14 ish at best.

They aren't trading pick 2 for anything less than a top 5 selection in one of the drafts, if they do that their recruiters need their heads read
 
Superstar swan said:
Do u think a trade for rowbottom+ Florent + Ladhams + first round pick for a chronically injured Oscar Allan who averages 20 goals a year is a fair deal ?
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I see your point, but I raise you the fact that it’s actually pick 2 and not Oscar Allen. Like in reality, it’s pick 2. And you’re the buyers wanting Curnow. You’d need to stump up was my point.
 

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LukeParkerno1 said:
How does Francis survive the delistings and Fox doesn't?
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There will be more delistings later, I assume with Francis + Hamling it’s 1 list spot between them so we’re waiting to see if Hamling joins GWS or not.
 
txbyhull said:
I see your point, but I raise you the fact that it’s actually pick 2 and not Oscar Allen. Like in reality, it’s pick 2. And you’re the buyers wanting Curnow. You’d need to stump up was my point.
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It's not a trade that will happen, I mean I know your recruiters did the stupid Baker deal but surely you aren't going to be that silly again. There isn't much WCE would be happy with for pick 2 that we'd give up. Warner I'd do but the club won't, but I said that mid year and everyone on here hated the idea
 
NinjaSwan said:
There will be more delistings later, I assume with Francis + Hamling it’s 1 list spot between them so we’re waiting to see if Hamling joins GWS or not.
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Send both of them to GWS but I'd keep Hamling
 
LukeParkerno1 said:
One is AFL standard though, would much rather keep Fox for a year
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I don't think it's an either or situation.

Francis hasn't really done enough in seniors to retain a spot on the list. I'd rather rookie another mature ager to see if they can do better. Assuming they perform at state level, they wouldn't be worse.

Fox if not for durability concerns, should have been offered a year regardless of Francis.
 
LukeParkerno1 said:
It's not a trade that will happen, I mean I know your recruiters did the stupid Baker deal but surely you aren't going to be that silly again. There isn't much WCE would be happy with for pick 2 that we'd give up. Warner I'd do but the club won't, but I said that mid year and everyone on here hated the idea
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Yes I’m inclined to agree. WC know that it’s high end talent or starters, and unless it’s Chad/multiple of your Rowbottom types plus picks it just won’t happen. Think there’s plenty other ways to chayse Curnow though. Would rather he played for you guys than the blues that’s for sure
 

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Bloods86 said:
I don't think it's an either or situation.

Francis hasn't really done enough in seniors to retain a spot on the list. I'd rather rookie another mature ager to see if they can do better. Assuming they perform at state level, they wouldn't be worse.

Fox if not for durability concerns, should have been offered a year regardless of Francis.
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Look I'd just get rid of both. I wonder whether we have indicated to Fox we will re rookie him lets be real no one else will.
 
txbyhull said:
Yes I’m inclined to agree. WC know that it’s high end talent or starters, and unless it’s Chad/multiple of your Rowbottom types plus picks it just won’t happen. Think there’s plenty other ways to chayse Curnow though. Would rather he played for you guys than the blues that’s for sure
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Yeah I mean I know Carlton fans don't agree but 9 plus f1 (whatever draft they want) is more than reasonable. It's actually beyond fair. Lets not pretend he's Jeremy Cameron okay.
 
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