Rumour Bluemour Discussion XL - ‘Silly Season’ in full swing 😱

[Aphrodite]

#BUMP from February


Re: 'Alleged' rumours resurfacing ...

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[DangerousD]

Great post....I love it when someone thinks outside the square. Couple of local boys.

At the end of the day, Geelong have nothing of anything of any interest to us, so they can GAGF along with the filth. GCS reportedly not willing to part ways with any of their nepos or anything of any value, so they can EAD.

This will be an unpopular trade scenario, but I'd consider something like this with the Swans:

Dattoli, Green, 2026 1st >> Carlton >> Charlie, pick 20.

I actually like the thought of bringing in young talent as well as helping to secure points for Cody. Blues were reportedly keen on Dattoli leading into the draft, and Green was a 1st round draft pick - talented 204cm ruckman.

Swans get to keep their 'not negotiables', but I still reckon they'd baulk at this.

This is crazy

Not because Dattoli or Greene are bad but because you’re overestimating their cost by a long way.

If a player requested a trade to us from another club and he’d played 0 games in 2 years, what would you offer? That’s Green.

What would you offer up for a kid who’s played 3 games and averaged 9 touches? That’s Dattoli.

Both would be gettable with a late 2nd or early 3rd round pick and you wanted to send a top 20 back to them?

 

[ESKIE]

Cough up big time for a contracted Coleman medallist

BIG TIME

 

[Drexl 31]

You want a fella at the club that was approaching other teams mid season?

Yes.

 

[Benaly28]

I think we need to get our heads around the fact that players and managers are speaking to other clubs in season.Its just the way in which the game is heading.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

This is crazy

Not because Dattoli or Greene are bad but because you’re overestimating their cost by a long way.

If a player requested a trade to us from another club and he’d played 0 games in 2 years, what would you offer? That’s Green.

What would you offer up for a kid who’s played 3 games and averaged 9 touches? That’s Dattoli.

Both would be gettable with a late 2nd or early 3rd round pick and you wanted to send a top 20 back to them?

Fair enough, I was probably being a bit generous with the return.

So what would be your realistic trade scenario if he was to move to the Swans?

 

[GoBlues!]

This is crazy

Not because Dattoli or Greene are bad but because you’re overestimating their cost by a long way.

If a player requested a trade to us from another club and he’d played 0 games in 2 years, what would you offer? That’s Green.

What would you offer up for a kid who’s played 3 games and averaged 9 touches? That’s Dattoli.

Both would be gettable with a late 2nd or early 3rd round pick and you wanted to send a top 20 back to them?

Looked up Dattoli, was out for the first 5 months this year with a lower back stress injury. Played in the Swans last three AFL games, and was subbed off in the last two games.

Kid might become a good player, but don’t think he’s going to meet the benchmark for a CC trade.

 

[AT97]

Makes no sense we have convinced a ruckman from Fremantle to nominate us and we want green from Sydney… couldn’t possibly happen.

 

[GoBlues!]

Fair enough, I was probably being a bit generous with the return.

So what would be your realistic trade scenario if he was to move to the Swans?

I don’t think the Swans are in a great position or want to give up any decent player/s to get Charlie. Their eyes are bigger than their wallets.

On the other hand, the Suns have picks and players but seem more intent on keeping their young talent and stockpiling more academy players, well publicly that’s the perception atm it might change as the trade window closes. Suns are the team that can afford and should be looking at Charlie to complement their team.

 

[KohPhi]

I would say 2

What sort of compensation are you thinking?

I would say 2 x First Rounders (one in the top 10) and a very good player who walks in to our 22..

 

[The Return of the Paf]

Because the distance from the bottom to the top is bigger than it has ever been.

We desperately, hopelessly need to raise our floor as a footy club. Since 2002 we have circled the drain and when we are bad, we are awful and everyone wants to leave and the fans turn on each other and...are you seriously happy to go back to the bottom 4?

For what? Another '66 game rebuild' that takes 8 years to get back to finals (that would be 2034 for anyone counting at home)? That is the path our club appears to be taking, though, and it is madness.

The clear difference between us and Essendon is that they don't have any good players outside Merrett (but tonnes of depth). We are the opposite - a good top end, but paper thin. And the one unique thing we can do is send out two Coleman medallists in the forward line, and have a duel Brownlow medallist leading the midfield.

I definitely do not want a complete rebuild ever again. I would much, much rather aim to just consolidate in the middle of the ladder, open up cap space and fill gaps, the way Collingwood and Geelong have done.

Yeah, I hear that if you bang yourself over the head enough times with a heavy blunt instrument, it feels really good when you stop. Let's just go for that.

 

[4thchicken]

Carlton has lost 63% of games where Cripps has played.

Sakc!!!

Yes please.

Well perhaps not so much sack but trade to freo for pick 11 + future 2nd would be a good outcome imo.

Then package 11 +TDK compo to move up prior to dean pick

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Yes please.

Well perhaps not so much sack but trade to freo for pick 11 + future 2nd would be a good outcome imo.

Then package 11 +TDK compo to move up prior to dean pick

You want to get rid of Cripps to pick who exactly?

I don't think he's untouchable, but if we were to trade him, I want a F1 for him. I want as many F1's for next year's draft as possible...

 

[Ninja Worrier]

Rowbottom, Florent, 2025 first and F1 for Charlie, 3R and F2 and I start to think about it.

TDK compo to GWS for Gruzewski and 2R.
Swans 2025 1st to GC for F1.

Gives us three first round picks in 2026, Gruzewski, Rowbottom, Florent, Dean and Ison.

 

[Big Delut]

Rowbottom, Florent, 2025 first and F1 for Charlie, 3R and F2 and I start to think about it.

TDK compo to GWS for Gruzewski and 2R.
Swans 2025 1st to GC for F1.

Gives us three first round picks in 2026, Gruzewski, Rowbottom, Florent, Dean and Ison.

Rowbottom is one of the last players we should target. Surely an inside mid who can't kick isn't something we should be looking for?

 

[Jimmae]

Makes no sense we have convinced a ruckman from Fremantle to nominate us and we want green from Sydney… couldn’t possibly happen.

We don't really have much of a key forward depth chart right now, especially if Charlie goes. Makes sense that we're canvasing options.

 

[Jimmae]

Rowbottom, Florent, 2025 first and F1 for Charlie, 3R and F2 and I start to think about it.

Drop the last bit of picks and Rowbottom from that, bring in Green instead.

TDK compo to GWS for Gruzewski and 2R.

That's absurd... keep the pick or upgrade it if we're afraid of a Dean bid in the top 10. I'm not.

Swans 2025 1st to GC for F1.

Absolutely not. You do not fire from the hip acquiring future picks, you make a measured approach, especially if your own fortunes are in flux. There's a mid-season pick trade period now on offer too.

Gives us three first round picks in 2026, Gruzewski, Rowbottom, Florent, Dean and Ison.

Absolute madness, go to the draft and get a top 10 player alongside Florent, Dean, and Ison.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Rowbottom, Florent, 2025 first and F1 for Charlie, 3R and F2 and I start to think about it.

TDK compo to GWS for Gruzewski and 2R.
Swans 2025 1st to GC for F1.

Gives us three first round picks in 2026, Gruzewski, Rowbottom, Florent, Dean and Ison.

We should swap our 2027 1st for * 2026 1st.

They want Bewick in 2027 draft, we want Cody next year... very good business for both clubs.

 

[WalshYouLegend]

Curnow to the Suns for Humphrey and JW. Simple. That’s a deal I’d take.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Drop the last bit of picks and Rowbottom from that, bring in Green instead.

That's absurd... keep the pick or upgrade it if we're afraid of a Dean bid in the top 10. I'm not.

Absolutely not. You do not fire from the hip acquiring future picks, you make a measured approach, especially if your own fortunes are in flux. There's a mid-season pick trade period now on offer too.

Absolute madness, go to the draft and get a top 10 player alongside Florent, Dean, and Ison.

The only absolute madness is thinking that a "top 10" this year will be as good as a top 15 for next year... especially when that pick 10 will probably become pick 15 anyway...

And acquiring future picks isn't "firing from the hip" ... it's smart. This year's draft sucks (relatively speaking), next year's is full of very talented players...

 

[Jimmae]

The only absolute madness is thinking that a "top 10" this year will be as good as a top 15 for next year... especially when that pick 10 will probably become pick 15 anyway...

And acquiring future picks isn't "firing from the hip" ... it's smart. This year's draft sucks (relatively speaking), next year's is full of very talented players...

Draper compensation will be somewhat important, but the rest is set in stone, save for whatever support package West Coast are getting.

Gold Coast will happily talk shop with us if we want to part with what is likely to be 10 and 11 under the above scenario, as will West Coast. I'd happily chase a top 5 pick in this draft and pick up some future selections. The SOS compo and our existing picks should pay for Dean and Ison, and that can be the end of our draft if we're already grabbing role players and depth elsewhere.

This draft isn't super balanced at the top end, but it doesn't suck, the mug draft punters posing as media and content creators have been kept in the dark. In a scenario where we were certain Dean wouldn't get bid on before 15, I would happily take two picks above that.

 

[AT97]

We don't really have much of a key forward depth chart right now, especially if Charlie goes. Makes sense that we're canvasing options.

Jim, I had no idea who Green was, so I looked him up and all I could find is that he’s a ruckman, hence my post. You saying he’s a key forward?

 

[Garters]

Pretty sure Stamos comments are not to give up Charlie in a fire sale like some are suggesting, we need to be well compensated, they are two very different things.

I think that's a given. CC isn't going anywhere currently. We are t he seller in this transaction. He does not go bar for a kings ransom. Good position to be in. No one is fire selling anyone. GW could not have been more emphatic.

 

[Garters]

Sure, if they're doing the right thing.

But how would selling our contracted superstar key forward for unders be doing the right thing?

That won't be the case Stamos, we are in a good position. As far as things currently sit he won't be going anywhere. Deal will need to be big for GW to pull the trigger. Until we see what is on the table it's all just dic* heads in the press waxing lyrical re their preferred biased little agendas.

 

[AB_Blue]

Only another 5 weeks of this shit……..

 

[Crippa#9]

An apology for the season would be a good start...

Would that make you feel better?

lol, seriously.