Rumour Bluemour Discussion XL - ‘Silly Season’ in full swing 😱

[Aphrodite]

#BUMP from February


Re: 'Alleged' rumours resurfacing ...

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Thanks all!

 

[katmanblue]

It's another forum with highly questionable formatting

Need to wear blue blockers to look at it.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

I get that, but if I'm Sam Walsh, I'm getting big offers from multiple clubs...

Then I see Carlton giving someone else a massive offer...

And coming to me with a lot less (because we need to take less for success)

But you want me to be the captain...

I'm thinking, well **** you... I've given my all since I got here, and other clubs clearly value me more...

It's def a risk when it comes to getting Butters... are we willing to accept that?

I personally think the Captain should be the teams highest paid player.

 

[katmanblue]

Add a loyalty bonus that vests over the course of the contract to come into effect after you've completed 66% of your contract.

The old veterans list was great

 

[Broadside]

I personally think the Captain should be the teams highest paid player.

I think it depends on who that player is - Tom Harley at the Cats or Nick Maxwell at the Pies (or Richie Vanderburg at Hawthorn) were great captains but arguably not in their best half dozen players. Walsh is a funny one, he could be our best but injuries/form mean he is quite a way off it.

 

[Bundy Bear Bogan]

Rankings wise:

Hayward
Ainsworth
Gresham

EFA

Rankings wise:

Hayward
Ainsworth
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Gresham

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

If Walsh leaves it will because he reckons his fellow players are rubbish. If I am a younger player and looking at some of the behaviours and performances of so called stars who are leaving- I am thinking "good riddance".

Players are moving for money and whatever they say to justify/explain/account for their move that avoids talking money is a load of absolute crapola.

You have to understand that blokes like curnow who are twice the player that TDK is on 1/3rd of what TDK is now earning are very very pizzed orf.

Curnow wants to move to get paid more money
TDK moved for more money.
Silvagni moved for more money.

The only way to manage this reality is to be absolutely ruthless with players and that is perform or FOFF. You need to pour resources into fast tracking developing players so that they can contribute whilst still not commanding enough BS money and they leave - or have accumulated enough older talent and depth that you are play the we play finals every year card.

The list that Silvagni built missed the midfield repeatedly for 3 years in a row - that is why the Club has lacked the depth to really contend- that and extremely poor mental leadership. There is no way a decent team concedes a 40 point start in a final and loses - the flag was there for the taking in 2023 and Russell was 100% correct when he stated recently - Carlton senior players were as a a collective - mentally weak. Walsh and cripps playing with a mattress on his ribs - were the only 2 who stood up.

Voss may be unpopular with some players- because he calls it out. No coach wants to come into a team with an inherited imperfect list and cop the crapola Voss has copped - he has actually outperform given the list he has had to work with.

This is why he hasnt been sacked. If Carlton make finals next year- he is going nowhere.

As for tanking - that is the worst thing you can put your players through - what a disgraceful way to build 'culture'.

I've said repeatedly the top of Carltons list has always been the problem. Mentally weak players bred and developed in a losing environment, and getting to play like that. 2023 was the exception to the rule. That was the list at its peak, it was never going to be repeated with the same players.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Where's Butters?

My frypan cooking my Sirloin

 

[Blue and Silver]

I've said repeatedly the top of Carltons list has always been the problem. Mentally weak players bred and developed in a losing environment, and getting to play like that. 2023 was the exception to the rule. That was the list at its peak, it was never going to be repeated with the same players.

Sometimes around 2016 a veteran with premiership experience who could set standards was needed.

 

[Blue__Balls]

Tin foil hat: maybe Graig Cameron taking little pot shots at Bailey publicly is to get their fans a little riled up at him, so that trading him out becomes more palatable. "He wants out, he doesn't want to honour his contract, he's been speaking to other clubs behind our backs - guess we'll swoop on Curnow, what a big-brain play by us!".

 

[Premiership Quarter]

Now ask yourself why we didn't get a flag, ney, we didn't even get close to a flag...

So why sell the farm for Butters now?

If not now when? With Cripps. Walsh, McKay, Weitering mostly into the second half of their careers, now is the time to strike if you want to make the most of those assets

 

[Benaly28]

Making Walsh Captain makes sense it a lot of ways.Very hard to leave if your a captain,one of substance anyway.

 

[blueboy25]

Making Walsh Captain makes sense it a lot of ways.Very hard to leave if your a captain,one of substance anyway.

I think you would only make him Captain if he recommits

 

[ferrisb]

Whenever this thread hears about a possible trade for anyone even remotely approaching a big name, it goes nuts.

No wonder the saints are paying Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera $2M a year.

He's got one of the biggest names in the world game!

 

[ferrisb]

That was last year Charlie kicked 3.7
This year kemp kicked 5 on him

No worries.

If we recruit Khamis, he won't have to play on either of them again!







Actually, maybe Charlie...

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Trade week should operate for 7 days, it’s ample time to complete trades. Currently its staged for media to maximize it, and its an embarrassment.
Reduce the farcical show to a minimum and reduce the theatrics.

Needs to be no longer than 36 hours. Even thats too much.

 

[ajs071]

Butters wont be happening, we all know that right? A Trade like that would be very complex and would be out in the open IMO. ie: Manager floating idea to media etc

 

[sparkybagger]

And what would the same players have to say if clubs decided not to honor their side of a contract?

NFL contracts are (almost all) non-guaranteed. This results in massive signing bonuses, but players can be cut during training camp at no further cost, let alone during or post-season.

 

[Tommy Alvin]

In regards to the captain, I have always felt that Weitering would make a great one.

TA

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

No wonder the saints are paying Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera $2M a year.

He's got one of the biggest names in the world game!

$90,909.09 a letter including the hyphen….

 

[Bluebag13]

Liam Pickering saying 75% chance Walsh is captain next year. Does manager Weitering.

Matt Bain cripps manager has said Cripps will be captain next year

 

[The Great Ian]

In regards to the captain, I have always felt that Weitering would make a great one.

TA

Needs a harder edge.

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

Liam Pickering saying 75% chance Walsh is captain next year. Dont think he knows anything on the inside but interesting he has gone so high

Isn’t Pickers Weiters manager?

 

[Bluebag13]

Isn’t Pickers Weiters manager?

yep just updated my post

 

[ferrisb]

I hope for Blues supporters sake that Carlton are in the mix for Butters but just letting you know that Torin (Baker) and Butters are friends. Torin recruited and coached Butters at Maribyrnong Sports Academy. Torin is in regular contact with heaps of his past players and people he has mentored.

Butters will settle for salary of $500K/yr just to be close to Torin.

Got it.

 

[blueboy25]

Liam Pickering saying 75% chance Walsh is captain next year. Does manager Weitering.

Matt Bain cripps manager has said Cripps will be captain next year

Good chance its a job share next season