Delisted Callum Ah Chee - Joins Adelaide via the PSD

[Crow till I die]

 

[Soggy2112]

Lol BS.

The club would have been informing Cal all throughout the process. Cal won't be bothered.

His managers comments suggest otherwise.

 

[Br0ckyy]

Lol BS.

The club would have been informing Cal all throughout the process. Cal won't be bothered.

wouldn't be bothered , how would you feel if you requested to leave your job, and they decided to put you up for auction and had no idea where you were going to end up.

 

[ABAB]

Uncertain? Lol. He knows he will end up in Adelaide. His moron manager says he won't talk to any other team. No other team will take him because of that.

I mean, you nuffies Brisbane posters are getting excited of West Coast or Port Power selecting him so.......

 

[mighty_lions]

Very likely, but it's no 100% guarantee.

The Lions have rewarded a 2x premiership hero by giving him & his young family uncertainty as to where they will be living next... because they got greedy.

lol greedy is wanting a good player but offering a packet a chips

f2 + pick slide is perfect for ah Chee

 

[SpecialBruce]

His managers comments suggest otherwise.

His manager is a moron. If his manager said the world is square you nuffies would believe it.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

lol greedy is wanting a good player but offering a packet a chips

f2 + pick slide is perfect for ah Chee

If it were perfect, the deal would have been done.

Alas, it was greedy & deal fell through.

The facts speak for themselves.

 

[mighty_lions]

If it were perfect, the deal would have been done.

Alas, it was greedy & deal fell through.

The facts speak for themselves.

yeah Adelaide didnt want to pay for a good player, I dont really understand why all you Adelaide supporters are sooking, your getting him more than likely for free, should all be happy

 

[Amacca 23]

His manager is a moron. If his manager said the world is square you nuffies would believe it.

and you are a clown .HIS manager just got NWM 4 mill over 2 years

 

[Soggy2112]

His manager is a moron. If his manager said the world is square you nuffies would believe it.

I’m simply suggesting that short of a statement from Ah Chee himself, the most reliable indicator of how Ah Chee feels is probably what his manager publicly says.

lol greedy is wanting a good player but offering a packet a chips

f2 + pick slide is perfect for ah Chee

Is that why when Ah Chee was younger, you guys offered a future second and a future fourth for him?

So Adelaide offered a better deal than what Brisbane offered for a younger Ah Chee. But somehow Adelaide were the greedy ones according to you.

No one is greedy, everyone is looking out for themselves.

Brisbane thought Adelaide would blink, realise they weren’t, so decided sending a message was more important than the picks they were getting. There’s nothing wrong with that, it’s only that since Ah Chee expressed through his manager that they were disappointed with that, that Brisbane have tried to twist the narrative to Adelaide trading unfairly, which is simply not the case.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

yeah Adelaide didnt want to pay for a good player, I dont really understand why all you Adelaide supporters are sooking, your getting him more than likely for free, should all be happy

It's only Lions supporters i see sooking because most thought you could bully your way to a 1st rounder for an uncontracted player or you would convince him to stay... lol, was never happening!

My post was about the shit treatment of a 2x premiership player who wants to move his young family to Adelaide on a life changing deal... now has an uncertain future.

 

[Happy_Neale]

You’re right, which is why I’ve posted a few times that each party is looking out for their own interests, and that’s okay.

I’m arguing the following points:

1. Adelaide are unfair traders. No, Reid isn’t, he just knows what he’s willing to give up and stands his ground. He’s done a really effective job in the Nicks era and should be applauded. As a club, we lost more than our fair share of players from 2015-19 and no one stuck up for us, so I don’t see why we owe anyone any favours now.

2. Adelaide have screwed over Ah Chee. No, they haven’t, and I feel confident saying that because the majority of the AFL media have agreed that Adelaide’s offer was a pretty reasonable one, and Ah Chee’s manager has publicly criticised Brisbane, not Adelaide.

In fact, what’s happened, is Brisbane underpaid Ah Chee so they could get Allen and Draper. This led to Ah Chee finding a better offer elsewhere, then, after he decided to go to Adelaide, Brisbane negotiated for 10 days, only to decide that sending a message to the rest of the comp was more important than getting him to the club he chose. That’s arguably a poor way to treat a 2x premiership player of your club, but if that’s how they want to play it, I’m okay with it. Just don’t try to act like you care for his welfare.

Don’t really care about the media narrative, optics are less important than what’s actually best for the club IMO.

With regards to Ah Chee we got him for a bargain since he couldn’t get on the park with the GC (got him end of 2019). Can’t imagine he was on big money then but clearly he commands more now which we don’t have. Thats nothing more than the salary cap working as intended.

We lost Joe, Oscar, Starcevich in the last 2 off-seasons so it’s not like we had no cap space. Just not as much as other teams.

The annoying part for me is not losing these players (to be expected), it’s the fact they are deemed worthy of a long term deal and bigger money but somehow that equates to offering a low amount in a trade. As I’ve mentioned before I can’t ever remember us chasing a player and not being prepared to pay for them. Future 2nd is not a good deal.

 

[mighty_lions]

I’m simply suggesting that short of a statement from Ah Chee himself, the most reliable indicator of how Ah Chee feels is probably what his manager publicly says.




Is that why when Ah Chee was younger, you guys offered a future second and a future fourth for him?

So Adelaide offered a better deal than what Brisbane offered for a younger Ah Chee. But somehow Adelaide were the greedy ones according to you.

No one is greedy, everyone is looking out for themselves.

Brisbane thought Adelaide would blink, realise they weren’t, so decided sending a message was more important than the picks they were getting. There’s nothing wrong with that, it’s only that since Ah Chee expressed through his manager that they were disappointed with that, that Brisbane have tried to twist the narrative to Adelaide trading unfairly, which is simply not the case.

that was his worth then, he played 1 game for Gold Coast in his last season, we basically picked him off the scrap heap and have turned him into a very good player

He was never a best 22 player at Gold Coast

and what we paid for him is absolutely irrelevant

 

[mighty_lions]

I’m simply suggesting that short of a statement from Ah Chee himself, the most reliable indicator of how Ah Chee feels is probably what his manager publicly says.




Is that why when Ah Chee was younger, you guys offered a future second and a future fourth for him?

So Adelaide offered a better deal than what Brisbane offered for a younger Ah Chee. But somehow Adelaide were the greedy ones according to you.

No one is greedy, everyone is looking out for themselves.

Brisbane thought Adelaide would blink, realise they weren’t, so decided sending a message was more important than the picks they were getting. There’s nothing wrong with that, it’s only that since Ah Chee expressed through his manager that they were disappointed with that, that Brisbane have tried to twist the narrative to Adelaide trading unfairly, which is simply not the case.

Its ah Chee's managers job to ensure that his client gets to where he wants OF COURSE he is going to say everything he did


If Paul Connors was ah Chee's manager I bet the deal gets done, Ben Williams has 0 leverage

 

[PeterSalt]

His manager is a moron. If his manager said the world is square you nuffies would believe it.

lol .. you peanut, you need to hop back in the bowl

You should go and do a little refresher on how Charlie Cameron's manager Colin Young behaved, particularly in media for a contracted player

Now there is dead set POS player manager

 

[ABAB]

Its ah Chee's managers job to ensure that his client gets to where he wants OF COURSE he is going to say everything he did


If Paul Connors was ah Chee's manager I bet the deal gets done, Ben Williams has 0 leverage

Yes, he would have forced Brisbane to accept the F2 fair value.

 

[mighty_lions]

Yes, he would have forced Brisbane to accept the F2 fair value.

Maybe or maybe got Adelaide to give a fair deal either way little Ben had 0 leverage

 

[SpecialBruce]

and you are a clown .HIS manager just got NWM 4 mill over 2 years

Anyone would have hot NWM that. St.Kilda were desperate.

End of the day the nuffie manager beat another bunch of nuffies on the dumbest and worst television show since Don't Forget Your Toothbrush.

 

[SpecialBruce]

Its ah Chee's managers job to ensure that his client gets to where he wants OF COURSE he is going to say everything he did


If Paul Connors was ah Chee's manager I bet the deal gets done, Ben Williams has 0 leverage

That is what these Cows supporters don't comprehend.

 

[SpecialBruce]

Maybe or maybe got Adelaide to give a fair deal either way little Ben had 0 leverage

No point arguing with this lot. They don't see reason. The Cows are sucking in Ben's farts treating him as a messiah when he failed at his job. To get Ah Chee to Adelaide in a trade.

 

[mighty_lions]

and you are a clown .HIS manager just got NWM 4 mill over 2 years

That’s actually not a good deal, his price I highly doubt is going to go up, he should of taken maximum money and maximum length contract, I have no idea why he chose to sign for just 2 years

 

[mighty_lions]

No point arguing with this lot. They don't see reason. The Cows are sucking in Ben's farts treating him as a messiah when he failed at his job. To get Ah Chee to Adelaide in a trade.

the best part of there argument is we should accept the trade because ah Chee is a good bloke not because Adelaide offered fair value

anyone want Logan Morris hes helped us win 2 premierships we will give him up for pick 40 as well

 

[Br0ckyy]

the best part of there argument is we should accept the trade because ah Chee is a good bloke not because Adelaide offered fair value

anyone want Logan Morris hes helped us win 2 premierships we will give him up for pick 40 as well

Seems like the only people who think that the offer wasn't a fair deal is Brisbane supporters, hmm, makes you wonder

 

[Soggy2112]

With regards to Ah Chee we got him for a bargain since he couldn’t get on the park with the GC (got him end of 2019). Can’t imagine he was on big money then but clearly he commands more now which we don’t have. Thats nothing more than the salary cap working as intended.

Players are traded based on their expected output for their new clubs, not what they have achieved. This is why young players are usually traded for more than players of Ah Chee’s age, even if they don’t have the runs on the board.

Yes, Ah Chee only played 1 game in 2019, but that was largely because of injury. He was still a former pick 8 who had played nearly 50 games at that point.

We lost Joe, Oscar, Starcevich in the last 2 off-seasons so it’s not like we had no cap space. Just not as much as other teams.

Clearly you have the cap space which is why you got Allen and Draper. But evidently, you valued getting those guys more than keeping Ah Chee.

The annoying part for me is not losing these players (to be expected), it’s the fact they are deemed worthy of a long term deal and bigger money but somehow that equates to offering a low amount in a trade. As I’ve mentioned before I can’t ever remember us chasing a player and not being prepared to pay for them. Future 2nd is not a good deal.

This argument has been made a lot and it’s so redundant. Brisbane weren’t willing to pay the salary others were offering but then wanted a high price at the trade table. It works both ways.

 

[Soggy2112]

For context, Alex Neal-Bullen

28

Alex Neal-bullen

Age

29

Ht

182cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.3

4star

K

8.7

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.1

5star

CL

1.4

4star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.5

2star

CL

0.5

3star

D

10.0

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.2

2star

was under contract and traded for pick 28.

Ah Chee is out of contract and we offered a future second and a future third.

So an equivalent, if not better offer, for a similar player in terms of age, ability and experience, who was out of contract.

 

[mighty_lions]

Seems like the only people who think that the offer wasn't a fair deal is Brisbane supporters, hmm, makes you wonder

yeah its not about the fact we have father sons, got a pick from west coast for Starc, have academies, got Dunkley in a trade and are back 2 back reigning premiers

oh wait! thats right thats what people have been posting in here, none of them have said what ah chee pick value is

25 is about right for ah chee nothing less