Opinion 2025 Picks 7* and 8* – who do you want?

[Scythe]

Alright, back on track. I've whipped up a quick consensus again – will add the missing ones as they're made available.

 

[danster168]

Langford 4th in the Rising Star. Where did Tauru place?

errr, because Tauru only played 10 games after injury and knocking someone out in the vfl. also, don't embarrass yourself and use the rising star as any sort of metric. A lot of spuds that didn't even make the grade have won the award. aka Rhys Palmer and Lewis Taylor. Let alone guys that came 4th.

 

[The Dr]

This is where the hyperbole just makes debate impossible.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

I said Murphy Reid was a gun last year pre draft and he won the rising star to prove me right but id still much rather Langford than Reid after what we've seen. If people watched us more closely last year (fair enough why no one would) you cant tell me you'd take anyone over him. Langford in a faster paced team will be incredible, buckle up Dan and get your apology ready.

 

[The Dr]

I said Murphy Reid was a gun last year pre draft and he won the rising star to prove me right but id still much rather Langford than Reid after what we've seen. If people watched us more closely last year (fair enough why no one would) you cant tell me you'd take anyone over him. Langford in a faster paced team will be incredible, buckle up Dan and get your apology ready.

He’ll never apologise lol

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

He’ll never apologise lol

Keep the faith, he forgave Sparrow after that kick to Petty which was unforgivable 6 months later.

 

[Lord Nev]

errr, because Tauru only played 10 games after injury and knocking someone out in the vfl. also, don't embarrass yourself and use the rising star as any sort of metric. A lot of spuds that didn't even make the grade have won the award. aka Rhys Palmer and Lewis Taylor. Let alone guys that came 4th.

"90% of neutrals" but not 1 Rising Star nomination despite 10 games. Yikes.

 

[TheBoss]

I said Murphy Reid was a gun last year pre draft and he won the rising star to prove me right but id still much rather Langford than Reid after what we've seen. If people watched us more closely last year (fair enough why no one would) you cant tell me you'd take anyone over him. Langford in a faster paced team will be incredible, buckle up Dan and get your apology ready.

What do you think of Reid vs Lindsay?

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

What do you think of Reid vs Lindsay?

Reid easily.

 

[I Love Lamb]

Not sure why people keep using Oliver as a good example of a reach.

It was 10 years ago, and he still got taken ahead of handy blokes like Curnow, McKay and Dunkley, then proceeded to go off the absolute rails leaving us with a ****ed culture and a 3.5m tab for him to go play at another club. Hardly a great example when our more recent reaches like Tholstrup are stinking it up.

Pickett one worked out as probably the only good example the last decade but he was an icing on the cake type pick when we already had a strong core group having had just made prelims the previous year so could afford the risk.

After consecutive 14th placed finishes and losing arguably our best 2 mids, we are hardly in a position to be taking risks to bring in icing on the cake reaches. Would be Barry Prendagast all over again if we do.

 

[Lord Nev]

One thing I like with us potentially looking at Farrow and Nairn, is that they could potentially start to push out Salem and Langdon, respectively, over the next couple of years IMO. Plus, the flow on effect of Farrow and Lindsay both hopefully being backline regulars could mean Rivers gets a more consistent role and he finds his form again.

I'd still much rather Pickett or Dovaston with one of our picks, but hypothetically can see how things can come together.

 

[I Love Lamb]

One thing I like with us potentially looking at Farrow and Nairn, is that they could potentially start to push out Salem and Langdon, respectively, over the next couple of years IMO. Plus, the flow on effect of Farrow and Lindsay both hopefully being backline regulars could mean Rivers gets a more consistent role and he finds his form again.

I'd still much rather Pickett or Dovaston with one of our picks, but hypothetically can see how things can come together.

Dovaston yes, Pickett no unless he slides to our later pick.

Not sure how Nairn takes Langdon spot, we already got Culley pushing in there and Langdon is a fast endurance runner which Nairn is not. Langdon also will provide some senior leadership for next few years. Can see Nairn more a Melksham/Joel Smith replacement.

Agree on Farrow re Salem though.

If we want to talk about players to **** off out of the team we should be talking about Sharp, closely followed by Sparrow.

 

[Daemon]

Dovaston yes, Pickett no unless he slides to our later pick.

Not sure how Nairn takes Langdon spot, we already got Culley pushing in there and Langdon is a fast endurance runner which Nairn is not. Langdon also will provide some senior leadership for next few years. Can see Nairn more a Melksham/Joel Smith replacement.

Agree on Farrow re Salem though.

If we want to talk about players to **** off out of the team we should be talking about Sharp, closely followed by Sparrow.

I actually agreed with most of your post which is unusual, but you went too far when you started potting super-sub Sharp.

 

[Daemon]

Keep the faith, he forgave Sparrow after that kick to Petty which was unforgivable 6 months later.

Whatever you do don't mention Lever's fumbles.

 

[danster168]

"90% of neutrals" but not 1 Rising Star nomination despite 10 games. Yikes.

lol using the rising star as a metric. yikes. speaks volumes. I already debunked the entire award in my last post. don't make me read another nonsense post about coming 4th in a rising star award.

 

[danster168]

A11dAtP0w3R I'll be happily to apologise. Do I get an apology when I criticised Windsor's class and ball use when everyone was frothing over him last year? People only remember what they want to remember. Same thing will happen with Langford. He'll find more of the footy but there will be moments where his ball use and speed gets questioned. Lindsay will be the better player.

 

[Topkent]

A11dAtP0w3R I'll be happily to apologise. Do I get an apology when I criticised Windsor's class and ball use when everyone was frothing over him last year? People only remember what they want to remember. Same thing will happen with Langford. He'll find more of the footy but there will be moments where his ball use and speed gets questioned. Lindsay will be the better player.

You're a weird unit. You're not interested in who's actually gonna be better and help Melbourne, you just want the plaudits for being right in your little fantasy.
If Lindsay's better than Langford that looks a hell of a prospect, everyone else doesn't have to be dog shit to try and validate your shot in the dark.

If you're so desperate for it, rank the top 10 by ability and then we'll hold you to that for the next decade

 

[mrmonkey]

Check out the 2024 draft threads. Danster was a big fan pre-draft.

All of Dan's comments were on the main board which is why I never recalled them. So when I had another look and saw some comments from Danster and immediately made the correction the next post, which you somehow missed.

 

[Topkent]

I hate watch the **** out of Laurie to be fair but that's just funny to me and he's so inconsequential to our future that yes I'd rather be right than him be useful

 

[Topkent]

A11dAtP0w3R Do I get an apology when I criticised Windsor's class and ball use when everyone was frothing over him last year? People only remember what they want to remember.

Well i wasn't, I actually agree with you he's not a great ball user, but so what? Why is that a badge of honour for you? Doesn't make him completely dog shit.
There are countless examples league wide of blokes who aren't elite ball users who can still be quality players, judging him off the back of one of the worst coached 2 year spells makes you look stupid. "People only remember what they want to remember" is piss funny seeing as you're twisting the narrative into Windsor's the greatest ball user in the comp so you can play the opposite

 

[Bluelegs]

Windsor had some second year blues after coming off an interrupted preseason. He'll be fine.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

A11dAtP0w3R I'll be happily to apologise. Do I get an apology when I criticised Windsor's class and ball use when everyone was frothing over him last year? People only remember what they want to remember. Same thing will happen with Langford. He'll find more of the footy but there will be moments where his ball use and speed gets questioned. Lindsay will be the better player.

Lindsay doesnt have the traits and measurables to make him a star like Langford. Langford is a unicorn.

 

[Lord Nev]

lol using the rising star as a metric. yikes. speaks volumes. I already debunked the entire award in my last post. don't make me read another nonsense post about coming 4th in a rising star award.

Using "neutrals" as some kind of reference but then completely ignoring the judgment of actual "neutrals"... Classic Dan. 14% of people knew that was made up.

 

[mrmonkey]

For me our the players we've drafted have been pretty good, question marks over Tholstrup and Jefferson. JVR has looked decent at times but is down in confidence imo. Howe looks solid. Windsor like JVR we've seen him look really good but had a down year. Lindsay looks good, I get the love for Tauru but Langford definitely looks like he'll be a star of the comp.v

 

[danster168]

Using "neutrals" as some kind of reference but then completely ignoring the judgment of actual "neutrals"... Classic Dan. 14% of people knew that was made up.

I'm not saying that Langford wasn't a top 5 candidate for the rising star. I'm saying the actual award is flawed. Deeply flawed. It's very hard not to make top 5 if you're a well developed early pick, playing for a 14th ranked team and playing the majority of games. It's got very little to do with performance and more to do with games played.

Most of the players nominated either didn't play enough games due to being developed or suffering injury. It's a joke award and I pointed that out listing scrubs that have won the award. Let alone guys that have come 4th.

It's fine. You would've been a Windsor guy, until you weren't.

Langford exceeded my expectations in his first year, but his flaws are still plain to see for me. And I was high on tauru then and now it's a no contest. And here we are 1 year on, at another draft without a key defensive option because there's none in the top 10 and Xavier Taylor won't make it to us. And now after seeing what Tauru did in limited games, I would be taking him at pick 1. Comfortably over Lalor.

 

[stEdy]

Tauru had some nice games but he also had some absolute stinkers. Without getting drawn too far into dan's hall of mirrors I can't remember Langford even having a bad game, really.