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correct. that's why a f1 would've been thrown in. and yeah, we wouldn't have got pickett. Blake thredgold, Harley barker, mitch marsh were some options bu that all depends how the club rated that tier of player.Say that a similar deal was offered, it would have pushed our pick 12 back about 10 spots.
Unknown if Pickett would have slid far back enough. Nairn was off the board. What would our fallback option have been? Schubert?
There was only one other club to ask - Melbourne - and the club we know Adelaide asked was the club that pretty much everyone knew was also into Sharp, whereas Melbourne weren’t interested in Sharp.but if you're Adelaide, you'd be foolish not to ask more than 1 club. especially if essendon were saying no.
yeah agree on that. I think our minds were made up at that point. Whether Melbourne was interested in Sharp is irrelevant from Adelaide's perspective, as they had to try and get into the draft before Essendon's 3rd pick (assuming essendon didn't go Sharp with their 2nd pick if things changed). Adelaide 100% would've contacted WCE, Rich, Melb and Ess.There was only one other club to ask - Melbourne - and the club we know Adelaide asked was the club that pretty much everyone knew was also into Sharp, whereas Melbourne weren’t interested in Sharp.
It would seem a massive error by Adelaide to not even ask. But I have no doubt Melbourne did/would have rejected anyway given xTaylor had slid and all the effort spent on lPickett.
Until Essendon made their choices immediately prior to Melbourne’s two selections it was still up in their air who Melbourne would be able to select. I can’t believe Melbourne were “we will not consider any proposed trade” mode when there was still that uncertainty.
In fact, the only club to table a bid was Adelaide on draft night, with the Crows offering their first-round pick this year and next year for Richmond's second pick. It was a throw at the stumps the Crows knew wasn't going to strike, but they were happy to chance their arm regardless. It wouldn't dent their trade enthusiasm later in the night.
Essendon, holding the next two picks, and Melbourne, the two after that, were pleased when Grlj became a Tiger.
For Essendon, it meant the Bombers would secure bolter Robey and half-back Jacob Farrow. Robey had visited The Hangar days before the draft and was in the Bombers' sights as they hunted a big-bodied midfielder while they hope Farrow can be the same down the track.
If Robey or Taylor was picked by the Tigers instead of Grlj, the Bombers would have gone with Farrow and then Dyson Sharp next and seen what would have gotten past the Demons.
But because of their intel on the Demons' lack of interest in Sharp at that point of the draft, plus the fact Melbourne just traded in Jack Steeleand drafted Harvey Langford last year, the Bombers were prepared to risk him getting through to their third pick in the first round that they had traded for with Carlton in the days leading into the draft. It was less cat-and-mouse than a tactical roll of the dice.PLAYERCARDSTART9Jack Steele
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That's where Melbourne came into things. In Richmond choosing Grlj, it gave it a much more alive chance one of Taylor or Robey would be available at its pick.
The Demons were hoping Taylor would be the player to get through the Tigers and Bombers and couldn't type his draft number in quick enough when he was available at No.11 (after bids) on their draft board. The Eastern Ranges defender dominated at the end of the season, plays with swagger and confidence and is a teammate players enjoy lining up alongside.
The Dees also breathed a sigh of relief when Essendon called out Farrow as their plan to join Latrelle Pickett with his cousin Kysaiah at Melbourne was about to come to fruition – and in grand style.
West Coast called with a deal to trade up from its third pick to the Dees' selection for a future second-round pick, but the Eagles wouldn't have known Melbourne's efforts to land Pickett and keep it under wraps. Very few did.
A fortnight before, Demons recruiting boss Jason Taylor had informed AFL talent boss Kevin Sheehan that Pickett was a chance to be in their mix and that they could consider bringing him to night one at Marvel Stadium. But it had to be kept under tight control, for the Demons knew the work Essendon, and other clubs such as Greater Western Sydney and Hawthorn, had put into assessing Pickett as an option.
On Monday, two days before the draft, the Bombers had Pickett and Oskar Taylor to the club. For Essendon, it was interested in the lightning small forward but also used the catch-up as a chance to see how much work other clubs had done on the Glenelg goalkicker. He was in its mix for its third pick, but was unlikely to be taken given the players ahead.
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You can interpret whichever way you like, but the fact is, Adelaide didnt make an offer to our picks regardless of what you think. Even Jason Taylor prior to the draft also confirmed they weren't going to move picks or had offers.that can be interpreted 2 ways. how did the crows know the dees wouldn't trade? it would've been discussed at some point. c'mon dazzle, it makes no logical sense that the Adelaide recruiting manager wouldn't have called melbourne at some point before the draft and asked them about their willingness to trade down for a f1. Melb obviously said no a while back and hence weren't contacted on the draft day.
It was a s* deal anyway. Why would the club even entertain it?You can interpret whichever way you like, but the fact is, Adelaide didnt make an offer to our picks regardless of what you think. Even Jason Taylor prior to the draft also confirmed they weren't going to move picks or had offers.
You're trying to make up a fantasy in your head just to find a reason to throw shade at the club on a scenario that never happened.
'but the fact is'. umm no. there is absolutely no proof to suggest that Adelaide didn't offer the dees a trade. And it's completely irrational from Adelaide's perspective to suggest that they wouldn't have contacted Melbourne at some point.You can interpret whichever way you like, but the fact is, Adelaide didnt make an offer to our picks regardless of what you think. Even Jason Taylor prior to the draft also confirmed they weren't going to move picks or had offers.
You're trying to make up a fantasy in your head just to find a reason to throw shade at the club on a scenario that never happened.
If Adelaide made us an offer, why do you think Twomey omitted that from his article while choosing to detail the offer made by West Coast?'but the fact is'. umm no. there is absolutely no proof to suggest that Adelaide didn't offer the dees a trade. And it's completely irrational from Adelaide's perspective to suggest that they wouldn't have contacted Melbourne at some point.
Oh so you heard Jason Taylor on afl.com.au say that they weren't going to be trading and took that as if Adelaide never contacted the Dees to enquire about a pick swap? That's completely illogical.
So at Adelaide's recruiting meeting it goes something like this: 'We're frothing over Dyson Sharp. We'll even trade the bombers our F1 in a stronger draft plus our existing pick just to get him. We think he'll be there around pick pick 13 at Essendon'. Work experience kid "Hey Boss, shouldn't we contact the dees or other higher teams and see if they'd be keen in a pick swap in case he's still there?'. Recruiting Boss: 'Nah, apparently on Gettable they said they wouldn't be trading. So we'll just give up on trying to get Sharpie.'
Does this seem logical to you? lol come on now. Adelaide would've contacted WCE, Rich, Melb and Ess. what are you on about.
you're getting bogged down in the small details and by doing so forgetting to use common sense. Using the principle of Occam's razor i.e. sticking to common sense, adelaide 100% wouldve contacted melb. and every other team for that matter.If Adelaide made us an offer, why do you think Twomey omitted that from his article while choosing to detail the offer made by West Coast?
Omg, where to beginyou're getting bogged down in the small details and by doing so forgetting to use common sense. Using the principle of Occam's razor i.e. sticking to common sense, adelaide 100% wouldve contacted melb. and every other team for that matter.
And this is why innocent people take guilty pleas, because its the lack of common sense of people that sit in our jury. "But but Cal Twomey said..."
Don't. Save your mind.Omg, where to begin
Just like you have zero proof that Adelaide actually offered us anything at all even though its been confirmed that they hadn't.'but the fact is'. umm no. there is absolutely no proof to suggest that Adelaide didn't offer the dees a trade. And it's completely irrational from Adelaide's perspective to suggest that they wouldn't have contacted Melbourne at some point.
Oh so you heard Jason Taylor on afl.com.au say that they weren't going to be trading and took that as if Adelaide never contacted the Dees to enquire about a pick swap? That's completely illogical.
So at Adelaide's recruiting meeting it goes something like this: 'We're frothing over Dyson Sharp. We'll even trade the bombers our F1 in a stronger draft plus our existing pick just to get him. We think he'll be there around pick pick 13 at Essendon'. Work experience kid "Hey Boss, shouldn't we contact the dees or other higher teams and see if they'd be keen in a pick swap in case he's still there?'. Recruiting Boss: 'Nah, apparently on Gettable they said they wouldn't be trading. So we'll just give up on trying to get Sharpie.'
Does this seem logical to you? lol come on now. Adelaide would've contacted WCE, Rich, Melb and Ess. what are you on about.
same...I very much like the picks we took![]()
Sure you are.same...
Sure you are.
basic comprehension Marc. I was just stating what we likely gave up to ensure we got Pickett.I would've preferred Thredgold and a F1 100%, but at the same time, I'm thrilled with Pickett and I'm sure most clubs thought Thredgold would've gone much earlier. it's just interesting what we likely gave up to ensure we got Pickett.
Reverse order please. Why are people accused of a crime invoking cal toowney and pleading guilty when they are innocent?Omg, where to begin
Occam's razor.Reverse order please. Why are people accused of a crime invoking cal toowney and pleading guilty when they are innocent?