I said near perfect . And it is. Clearly making top four is the gosl but every position on the ladder is potentially better than the one below it.
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AFL Introduces Wild Card Round
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This idea of being bad because its americanisation is stupid.
For one, european pro sports do it too.
And adding more teams to finals has been done multiple times in the past by the afl. Was it american then too? The afl has added 3 new teams since the final 8 was added. It was sue to add in more finals places. And they way they have dome it here makes it very very hard for the new finals positions to win a flag.
For one, european pro sports do it too.
And adding more teams to finals has been done multiple times in the past by the afl. Was it american then too? The afl has added 3 new teams since the final 8 was added. It was sue to add in more finals places. And they way they have dome it here makes it very very hard for the new finals positions to win a flag.
Thats the same with this new system. 7-8 get home finals advantage over 9-10. Just like 5-6 used to get only home finals advantage over 7-8.
In fact this new system gives even greater advantage to 5-6 over 7-8. Making the focus of finals placing not solely about top 4 or not. Top 6 will now be a big discussion point too.
Then decrease it to the final 6.
You just made a case for why 7th and 8th are pretty pointless, now want to add even more pointless teams.
Fans are mentally fatigued by the end of the season. Especially ones of crap teams, they don't need it dragged out any further for a cash grab.
They aren't big games. No games involving the 9th and 10th teams are big games.
Wildcard game isn't a big final. It's two bog average teams playing each other for a mickey mouse concept.
It seems you're trying super hard to project positives that are really just things that are pointless and worthless and that nobody asked for.
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You mean the American sports where fans shit canned the ideas too as cash grabs?
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You mean the things EUFA does in soccer that fans think UEFA are a rotten corrupt organisation?
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Just call it soccer.
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It's just more football. It's OK - there's no need to be upset.
I'd be doing the opposite of what the football public like on most occasions. Gather round the perfect example of that. Typically footy fans have a sook about anything new, even if it betters the game overall. I hope the afl don't wimp out on going to a twilight grand final coz of this backlash.
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The Wildcard games need to be given proper finals names then?
Week 1 (Wildcard Round)
Qualifying Final 1
Qualifying Final 2
Week 2
Quarter Final 1 (Previously Qual Finals)
Quarter Final 2
Elimination Final 1
Elimination Final 2
Week 3
Semi Final 1
Semi Final 2
Week 4
Preliminary Final 1
Preliminary Final 2
Week 5
Grand Final
Exactly. The typical fan is an idiot. Sorry but it's true. The typical fan has no idea about what's good for the game.
In 1994, there was massive backlash against the final-8. Within one year, no one ever complained about eight being the right number of finalists again for 31 years. The public backlash in 1994 ended up being misguided. The public was wrong.
People always complain about change. Remember when the national competition started? People were complaining that the traditions of the game were being ruined. They soon got over it.
The fact is, that the competition has grown from 12 teams and a final-5 to 14,15,16,17,18 and now 19 teams. And over that time, the number of finalists has increased as the number of teams in the whole competition has gone up. Finalists have increased from 5 to 6 to 8 and now 10, which is a perfectly normal thing to do as the number of teams have gone up.
Whatever the public wants do the opposite and it's most likely the right move. You're 100% correct about the twilight Grand Final. It's the most obvious thing in the world and would add maybe a million TV viewers to the game. 70% of home and away games are at night/twilight, every other final is at night. More people will watch. It's just common sense. Yet the idiots will sook and moan when it's announced.
Tough unpopular decisions (in politics also) are often far more important than placating the riff-raff with nonsense.
The issue I have with keeping a day grand final (which lends itself to a more familiar momentum through the day) is very little AFL football is played with a red ball nowadays, but the most important game of the year is. Seems a little odd.
There are things the AFL does that are not as they should be. This extra week of finals ain't one of them.
Stay on topic and follow the scenarios.
The convention of the AFL is to give different names to each week of knockout finals.
For example, we have, over the 5 weeks:
Grand
Preliminary
Semi
Elimination
Wildcard
5 different names for 5 weeks of knockout games.
It's the reason why we use the term "Preliminary Final". Those Prelims are really semi-finals (like a tennis tournament), but the name semi-finals was used the week before, so they name it something different.
That's why the name "wildcard" was used. To differentiate itself from the other 4 weeks of knockout finals.
Yeah agree it's a terrible tv product for the biggest game of the year. The red ball gets lost in the background with the crowd, plus the sunlight, plus the poorer quality channel 7 feed. Plus the entertainment looks shithouse in the day time. That's before I even get started on the fact twilight is simply a better spectacle and adds a million viewers to the telecast, the only telecast each year that the afl has clear air for against its competitors (well actually there was a wallabies game on this year at the same time too).
So now 7 and 8 will play an extra game while 1-6 will get the 'bye'. 7 And 8 now at a disadvantage.
What this does is intensify the strive to make the top 6, not just the 8.
The fact that there are 18 teams and '10 finalists' waters it down a bit and reduces the merit.
I've read in here about having 2 final 5 series and that will bring 13 games instead of 11.
If HQ want to water it down, they're probs better doing the 13 game option instead of the 11 game option.
I do wonder if that was ever discussed behind closed doors..........
What this does is intensify the strive to make the top 6, not just the 8.
The fact that there are 18 teams and '10 finalists' waters it down a bit and reduces the merit.
I've read in here about having 2 final 5 series and that will bring 13 games instead of 11.
If HQ want to water it down, they're probs better doing the 13 game option instead of the 11 game option.
I do wonder if that was ever discussed behind closed doors..........
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Yeah, don't care. Just used the term, not a name, to point out that the biggest sport in the world changes rules all the time.
Felt I'd done that, then had to post one more time for you. Thanks.
More football isn't needed. More than enough already.
AFL arse clowns bringing in rules to shorten games but then go and add more games.
Were you on here telling everyone how wonderful AFLX was and how we needed it because the league is smarter than all the fans?
You sound like the typical suck kid from school always brown nosing the teachers.
I know fans of international football in this country are loathe to hear it called "soccer".
But on an AFL (football) forum, you're allowed to. It's ok.
I've got a book by Alan Ball and he names the game soccer on the second page. If he's happy with it I'm happy with it. If it's your preference I'm even happier.
I used the term the world game to emphasise it was the the biggest sport in the world and changed rules regularly, like the AFL. I didn't name the sport, sport.
Tedious campaigner.
Not every decision has been good and AFLX was a misstep clearly. But most of the big decisions have been proven to be correct, especially in relation to the number of teams in the finals and the expansion of the national competition. I reiterate, the public are mostly idiots. They will reject change no matter what, and then accept that change shortly after. The idiotic backlash to the final-8 in 1994 and then the deafening silence of any criticism for the next 31 years proves it.
The fact that it has been perfectly normal to increase the amount of teams in the finals as the number of teams in the league increases shows how dumb and ignorant of history the average fan is. Since the last change to the number of teams in the finals in 1994, three have been 4 new teams added to the league if you include Tasmania.
It took only 2 extra teams to make the chang from a final-5 to a final-6
It took only 1 extra team to make the change from 6 to 8.
We've had three (and soon to be FOUR) extra teams since 1994, and people are acting like moving to 10 teams isn't both correct and predictable and historically in tune with what the AFL normally do.
The footy public are collectively pretty stupid. I don't say that with any joy. It's just an unfortunate fact.
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