List Mgmt. 2025 AFL Draft - The Final Countdown

[Rubber Hips]

This would make for a great advertising slogan for a vacuum company

Thanks for noticing my attempt at humour

 

[lizard man]

Use your chameleon powers and sneak into Richmond’s recruiters meeting room

Don’t need to, I have a VIP pass

 

[Karp3_dm]

Don’t need to, I have a VIP pass

Do I have to tickle you to release the classified information?

 

[prodigy]

Have seen a few supporters pitch 4 & 38 for blues 9&11

I’m not sure how it looks point wise in terms of fairness, but blues might be looking to get in early for possible dean bids.

So I didn’t mind that one on first glance

I like that which probably means it's in our favor but if Carlton want to get ahead of a Dean bid then that's the price you have to pay.

 

[lizard man]

Do I have to tickle you to release the classified information?

I’m not ticklish

 

[prodigy]

I don’t get the whole “we need to trade down to get the player we want”. We have picks 3 and 4, just pick them with those picks if we rate them

Well, I think the benefit is likely getting an extra first rounder in and still ending up with the players we want.

 

[Karp3_dm]

I’m not ticklish

That’s what they all say
There’s always a weakness

 

[tigerfan1961]

It's been touted for months that we are super keen, hardly any noise that we are even interested in Sharp. We spoke to Robey late. We as supporters can see we lack midfield depth but the club obviously sees our list differently.

IMO we should be picking Robey & Cumming but haven't heard any noise that we are even keen on Cumming. Taylor has now moved to 7th on Twomey's top 30, I think it all points to us taking him with one of our 2 picks.

I have more confidence that we are picking him than I have we will even take Robey.

All the touting that we must take mids is just cr@p.
Yep, we can do with more mids for sure, but Blair said it folks, we are drafting not for next year but our future premiership contending side. If Blair and the recruiters see Taylor as a more essential addition to that future contending side than taking some of the mids on offer this year, they will select him, no doubt.
And I’m ok with that, we can fix the mids issue either by trading or drafting in the future.

 

[docko911]

Twomey said the Giants are looking at Sam Grlj if Richmond don't take him.

If that’s the case there’s no way we should take him at 4 when we could trade back with Carlton and take him at 9. Assuming Essendon and Melbourne aren’t keen.

 

[Rubber Hips]

Anyone reckon we are considering Burton at 38?

Has elite speed & output: …top-5 time in the 20m sprint (2.915s) / disposal average (approx. 29.6 disposals per game in the Coates Talent League) …is capable of playing as a damaging running half-back or as an outside/inside midfielder…Is a line-breaker and ball-accumulator …recorded a standing Vertical Jump: 74 cm (Ranked in the top 10)

 

[TheOptimum18]

Have seen a few supporters pitch 4 & 38 for blues 9&11

I’m not sure how it looks point wise in terms of fairness, but blues might be looking to get in early for possible dean bids.

So I didn’t mind that one on first glance

Unless I'm missing something obvious, this makes no sense.

Let's just use Twomey's latest phantom form guide, which puts Dean at pick 8. Carlton also has an NGA player in Jack Ison they are very much likely to pick up, which Twomey has at pick 26. After considering the 10% discount, those picks would require about 1299 points and 505 points respectively.

If Carlton does do the proposed trade here, then the only picks Carlton hold of any real points value would be 38, 43 and 54, which totals to 475 points, which isn't even enough to match a bid for Ison at pick 26, let alone getting both.

Carlton wouldn't even want to go into a point deficit because of Cody Walker next season.

 

[fargothegreat]

Have seen a few supporters pitch 4 & 38 for blues 9&11

I’m not sure how it looks point wise in terms of fairness, but blues might be looking to get in early for possible dean bids.

So I didn’t mind that one on first glance

The maths doesn't add up for Carlton. They wouldn't have enough points to match a Dean bid.

 

[RJK Tiger]

How much better is Duursma than the pack?

Ie if we offered 3,4 for 1 & 13, are the Eagles definitely saying no?

 

[Damo80]

Twomey said the Giants are looking at Sam Grlj if Richmond don't take him.

Grjl would be a gun at GWS

 

[Mr Magic]

All the touting that we must take mids is just cr@p.
Yep, we can do with more mids for sure, but Blair said it folks, we are drafting not for next year but our future premiership contending side. If Blair and the recruiters see Taylor as a more essential addition to that future contending side than taking some of the mids on offer this year, they will select him, no doubt.
And I’m ok with that, we can fix the mids issue either by trading or drafting in the future.

it is not about picking mids.

it is about best available..saying Taylor is more essential than Cummings and Sharp sounds like crap to me because the players drive how we play, including organic growth, and how we win premierships more than any would be puppet master would like to think. getting cute over timing and this type and that type is open to ridicule because it disrespects the opposition and what they do, as well as the players own autonomy( they are humans not sheep) as if we have a margin for error we can play around with to win premierships. Remember no Dusty we probably are still 40 years plus chasing our next premiership

it would not matter who we pick, highly unlikely we make this wildcard entry point next year. Furthermore, the more attractive our team is the more likely others like Taylor come like in a trade, the other thing one has to factor is is what does Sharp do for Smilie? what does Cummings do for Hotton in terms of giving them what they need to forge them into a premiership force in the years ahead, because these players are not operating in a vacuum, no matter any puns with Dyson

 

[beema limapep]

All the touting that we must take mids is just cr@p.
Yep, we can do with more mids for sure, but Blair said it folks, we are drafting not for next year but our future premiership contending side. If Blair and the recruiters see Taylor as a more essential addition to that future contending side than taking some of the mids on offer this year, they will select him, no doubt.
And I’m ok with that, we can fix the mids issue either by trading or drafting in the future.

Yet Yze has told the players he wants them to chase success this coming season. So mids would be better.

 

[4tune8]

If that’s the case there’s no way we should take him at 4 when we could trade back with Carlton and take him at 9. Assuming Essendon and Melbourne aren’t keen.

The flaw in that strategy is the assumption, well 2 assumptions TBH.

It falls over firstly because Carlton don't have the assets to trade because they need 9 & 11 for a Dean bid, plus they can't really trade an F1 because of bids next year. Secondly, you can't just assume that Essendon or Melbourne won't take him.

The risk is too great.

 

[4tune8]

Yet Yze has told the players he wants them to chase success this coming season. So mids would be better.

That's just an oversimplification of what Yze wants.

It comes down to how you judge success. Training 'full noise' to me means setting standards, ie: Train how you play, leave nothing on the table and don't hold back. Success is seeing those standards being applied on game day, it may not be wins, but the effort wont be wanting. If that is kept up then the wins will come, eventually.

 

[4tune8]

How much better is Duursma than the pack?

Ie if we offered 3,4 for 1 & 13, are the Eagles definitely saying no?

No, he's not.

Besides, it's a silly trade, we go from getting to choose exactly who we want at 4 to fighting for scraps with 13.

 

[Tivva29]

Just a feel from watching him play.

Just watched 2 of his highlights videos. On first impression he’s far more dynamic and willing to take the game on than Sharp or Cumming, but still think that Sharp/Cumming are better players.
Wouldn’t be upset if we used our 2nd pick on JP

 

[4tune8]

Just watched 2 of his highlights videos. On first impression he’s far more dynamic and willing to take the game on than Sharp or Cumming, but still think that Sharp/Cumming are better players.
Wouldn’t be upset if we used our 2nd pick on JP

Rather than dynamic, maybe the word is impact? I would think that a fair bit of weight is placed on that term when recruiters are doing their ratings, how much impact does a player have with his possessions?

 

[Wrenny]

Having read through the last few pages, tiger_tough I'm really sorry I sent you that PM saying I want to kill you and I ****ed your Mrs last year after you drafted two Lindsays in your mock.

Gonna need these highlights urgently lizard man

 

[tiger_tough]

Gonna need these highlights urgently lizard man

 

[lizard man]

Gonna need these highlights urgently lizard man

 

[Wrenny]

It’s for research purposes… I swear.