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List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

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Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

Draft order

Draft prospect video highlights (thanks to noobermensch)

Rookie Me Central 2025 Draft Guide


Matthew Clarke on Gettable 17/11


Cal Twomey’s Phantom Draft

 
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So, what time is the draft actually starting tonight? I know it's 4pm western, but when is the first pick likely to actually be placed? 430, 5? Unfortunately got some home opens to go to so time is tight.
Found these tweets. Time was 7:36 and 7:39, so imagine pick was made 7:30 or shortly after.

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You could very easily make an argument that the ultimate high-value AFL trait is the ability to play against men - which Sharp did the best out of that group this year.
I see that, and it could drag him up a little bit, but Duursma, CDT and Cumming all also spent games playing against men and did very well. I think that makes me look at a Bo for example, who iirc played 11 League games last season.

I think it contributes greatly to his floor, but I don't think it adds anything at all to his ceiling, which is the whole basis for the vast majority of people who don't rank him as pick 2 worthy
 
Us bidding is not about pick 13. It's about pick 9.

And Chesser. **** you! (Jokes)
haha maybe it is about Chesser!!

It was originally about pick 9, to get it from us... However, appears that won't happen now.

So given current knowledge, would you bid knowing:

By bidding, you are locking in your third pick at 13.

By not bidding, good chance third pick is 11 or 12. Worst case, its 13.
 

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haha maybe it is about Chesser!!

It was originally about pick 9, to get it from us... However, appears that won't happen now.

So given current knowledge, would you bid knowing:

By bidding, you are locking in your third pick at 13.

By not bidding, good chance third pick is 11 or 12. Worst case, its 13.
TBH I'd be stoked with Harry Dean. Clearly a top 5 pick..losing 200 points means bugger all in the context of everything.

You won the jackpot on him and Ison for 9 and 11.
 
So in the most critical year of his football life the Vic Country and Gippsland Power coaches yanked him out of the midfield and put him at half back? And that’s because the clubs asked for that?

Maybe the clubs see him more as a half back. Surely if they saw him as a mid they’d want to see him tested against the best in the country at the champs in that role?
I would say it’s more likely that with his long, rangy frame, clubs don’t see him being able to withstand consistent high-volume midfield time at AFL level at the start of his career.

So, they wanted to see him develop a game outside of just the midfield, which would allow him to be played in other positions while he develops the frame to play perma-midfield down the track.
 
I see that, and it could drag him up a little bit, but Duursma, CDT and Cumming all also spent games playing against men and did very well. I think that makes me look at a Bo for example, who iirc played 11 League games last season.

I think it contributes greatly to his floor, but I don't think it adds anything at all to his ceiling, which is the whole basis for the vast majority of people who don't rank him as pick 2 worthy
I don't disagree with your comments, but...

Duursma played two league games, CDT one, Cumming four.

Sharp played 9 which is more than these blokes, combined (and that's before we even consider that Sharp was playing SANFL league last year too).
 
haha maybe it is about Chesser!!

It was originally about pick 9, to get it from us... However, appears that won't happen now.

So given current knowledge, would you bid knowing:

By bidding, you are locking in your third pick at 13.

By not bidding, good chance third pick is 11 or 12. Worst case, its 13.
Not sure what you are talking about here.

You've clearly made the trades already, they will be contingent on bids coming before pick 9, but as soon as the bid comes you'll confirm the trades then match. THere's no way pick 9 and 11 get eaten up matching.
 

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I don't disagree with your comments, but...

Duursma played two league games, CDT one, Cumming four.

Sharp played 9 which is more than these blokes, combined (and that's before we even consider that Sharp was playing SANFL league last year too).
This is very true, and it goes to show that while I do think Sharp has done excellently in his league games, that I really do have some genuine concerns for what he turns out as at the next level. I posted a few weeks ago a comparison of Sharp and Dev's u18 stats. If he turned out like that (not to say he will) people would absolutely melt and berate the club for years to come. I just don't think he has enough of a POD on our current squad to justfiy picking him with 2. He would be my first pick if we slide back and CDT wasn't available 90% of the time however. Think this is also an example of people severely doubting Dev. Very bullish on how he turns out out west
 
The eagles draft experts will tell me why I have over tought this one, however I would think by bidding on Dean early, you are almost certainly costing yourself any chance of pick 13 coming in a pick or two to 12 or 11?

Right now, as it stands you have pick 13.. take out all other matches, as they come after this pick, simplistically thinking this pick comes in 2 by taking 9 and 11 of CFC? Well played in theory?

However, by bidding this early, CFC will now trade pick 9 and 11 to two certain users and two clubs - North and Essendon on almost the exact same list build timeline - direct competitors.

Eagles are more likely to get pick 1, 2 and 11 by NOT bidding on Dean, than bidding on him?

They will 100% not get that pick 13 higher by bidding and remain a good to great chance of it coming in one or two spots by not bidding?

Scenario 1 (Simplistic scenario where Carlton just cop it):

West Coast bid pick 1 or 2, Carlton do no trades and match.

West Coast will pick 1,2,11.... well played WC.

Won't Happen

Scenario 2:

West Coast bid pick 1 or 2, Carlton trade and match.

West Coast will pick 1,2,13.... north and Essendon 100% use those picks.

Media speculated scenario

Scenario 3:

West Coast don't bid on Dean, pick their player or bid on Patterson/Annable (or Richmond do)

Richmond pick Dean pick 6.. Carlton Match and lose 9/11 and get 22 (may stay in to get this one back).

West Coast will pick 1,2,11....

Better for Eagles - Carlton still may trade here as pick 22 is touch and go

Scenario 4:

West Coast don't bid on Dean, pick their player or bid on Patterson/Annable (or Richmond do)

Richmond don't bid Dean.. Essendon do Carlton Match and lose 9/11 and get 18 (almost certainly stay in for this pick).

West Coast will pick 1,2,11....

Best case for eagles and likely if they don't bid?
West Coast are teaching Carlton to bend over and take it like a man. It is going to be at pick 1 with Walker next year so get used to it princess.
 

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