Coach Future of the Club (Bevo; Board; Assistant Coaches; Football Department) - Part 2

[ossie_21]

WE FINALLY DID IT

 

[Charlie Bucket]

Looks like a work experience kid.

 

[Golden_6]

That certainly wasn’t on my bingo card.

 

[bresker]

The ultimate St Kilda troll. Our own puppet king.

Bont should be given a large, well appointed office bearing the word 'Captain' in large writing , while next door Billings has a small broom cupboard with 'coach' embossed in small font.

 

[Foxman98]

Fantastic pick up,

Heard him on the radio career clearly didn't go how he wanted but speaks well and will help out the kids,

Can honestly see him as a MSD smokey if we have a need and list spot

 

[Dogs Rule]

The circle is complete.

Welcome aboard Jack. Hope he pulls on the boots for Footscray as well tbh.

 

[Charlie Bucket]

Is he moving in with Bont until he settles in?

 

[Pugz89]

Fantastic pick up,

Heard him on the radio career clearly didn't go how he wanted but speaks well and will help out the kids,

Can honestly see him as a MSD smokey if we have a need and list spot

Why the **** would we pick him up in the MSD when we are paying him as a coach?

 

[Bald]

The circle is complete.

Welcome aboard Jack. Hope he pulls on the boots for Footscray as well tbh.

He will be playing for Footscray, the club confirmed.

 

[TiAn_]

Having been at the Saints while they had probably the worst development program in the comp, I’m sure he’s got an interesting perspective.

 

[Foxman98]

Having been at the Saints while they had probably the worst development program in the comp, I’m sure he’s got an interesting perspective.

Jarryn Geary looks great and he was forced to be their captain

 

[Libbaaaa]

He’ll play VFL too, that team will be stacked.

 

[Brass Dog]

Just need to steal Kelly at some point in the future to make the 2013 Top 4 well and truly ours.

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I heard he’s best mates with the bont and itching to get to the dogs!

 

[dogwatch]

I heard he’s best mates with the bont and itching to get to the dogs!

I understood the big appeal in coming to the Dogs was the opportunity to play alongside Michael Sellwood.
And why not. It'll be something to tell his grandchildren about.

 

[Snarls Barkley]

A little funny

Interesting that he is having a playing coach role in the VFL. Won’t be an easy job to perform but could definitely be beneficial if the job is done well and our developing players are able to get good in game feedback

 

[jwikked]

Who doesn’t look good in our colours

He's the king of knowing what poor development is. He'll either knock it out of the park, or his coaching career will limp along briefly like his footy career did

 

[lachy]

He's the king of knowing what poor development is. He'll either knock it out of the park, or his coaching career will limp along briefly like his footy career did

Very true yet still likely to play as many quality AFL games in 2026 as SOS

 

[Freshwater]

There has been an obsession with foot pace in our team. Blokes were given games because they were fast runners on the training track. Some of these blokes were given games whether they were in form or out. They would try and use their pace and often get caught or execute a terrible disposal. We were even the highest scoring side last season, but that means nothing if we don’t even make the finals, let alone be competitive once there. Hopefully that coaching obsession is over because being a very fast runner doesn’t always translate into on field pace. And some of our slowest runners are our best players, because it’s ball movement, sure hands (one grabs pick ups) composure, clean disposal and hitting the right targets that really open up play (this last point is especially true of Libba, his footy IQ is as high as Diesel Williams). Stopping goals is as important as kicking them. So from last years teams replacing VDM, McN, Poulter, Cleary, Garcia, Scott, JJ, Buss even Dolan and JUH & Gallagher (2024) is beneficial for our team. Some of these lads will make it with us long term, but too many not strong enough defensively hurts, even with all the high end talent we have. The new guys in, all seem to be accountable types and the balance looks stronger. Baker is playing like his actual life depends on it. Even the slightly maligned JOD defends with all his might. We won 2016 because of the heart and soul players we still laud, even those lesser lights like Biggs and Cordy etc were playing like animals. Every opposition goal has to hurt and be defended manically. Selection is the MOST influential match day tactic and an area Bevo has been below par on.

 

[Westerndog11]

There has been an obsession with foot pace in our team. Blokes were given games because they were fast runners on the training track. Some of these blokes were given games whether they were in form or out. They would try and use their pace and often get caught or execute a terrible disposal. We were even the highest scoring side last season, but that means nothing if we don’t even make the finals, let alone be competitive once there. Hopefully that coaching obsession is over because being a very fast runner doesn’t always translate into on field pace. And some of our slowest runners are our best players, because it’s ball movement, sure hands (one grabs pick ups) composure, clean disposal and hitting the right targets that really open up play (this last point is especially true of Libba, his footy IQ is as high as Diesel Williams). Stopping goals is as important as kicking them. So from last years teams replacing VDM, McN, Poulter, Cleary, Garcia, Scott, JJ, Buss even Dolan and JUH & Gallagher (2024) is beneficial for our team. Some of these lads will make it with us long term, but too many not strong enough defensively hurts, even with all the high end talent we have. The new guys in, all seem to be accountable types and the balance looks stronger. Baker is playing like his actual life depends on it. Even the slightly maligned JOD defends with all his might. We won 2016 because of the heart and soul players we still laud, even those lesser lights like Biggs and Cordy etc were playing like animals. Every opposition goal has to hurt and be defended manically. Selection is the MOST influential match day tactic and an area Bevo has been below par on.

This is one of the better assessments I’ve read for awhile. I guess the next questions are, can it be sustained over the season? If one soldier falls will another step in and replace them like in 2016?

 

[Dogs Rule]

There has been an obsession with foot pace in our team. Blokes were given games because they were fast runners on the training track. Some of these blokes were given games whether they were in form or out. They would try and use their pace and often get caught or execute a terrible disposal. We were even the highest scoring side last season, but that means nothing if we don’t even make the finals, let alone be competitive once there. Hopefully that coaching obsession is over because being a very fast runner doesn’t always translate into on field pace. And some of our slowest runners are our best players, because it’s ball movement, sure hands (one grabs pick ups) composure, clean disposal and hitting the right targets that really open up play (this last point is especially true of Libba, his footy IQ is as high as Diesel Williams). Stopping goals is as important as kicking them. So from last years teams replacing VDM, McN, Poulter, Cleary, Garcia, Scott, JJ, Buss even Dolan and JUH & Gallagher (2024) is beneficial for our team. Some of these lads will make it with us long term, but too many not strong enough defensively hurts, even with all the high end talent we have. The new guys in, all seem to be accountable types and the balance looks stronger. Baker is playing like his actual life depends on it. Even the slightly maligned JOD defends with all his might. We won 2016 because of the heart and soul players we still laud, even those lesser lights like Biggs and Cordy etc were playing like animals. Every opposition goal has to hurt and be defended manically. Selection is the MOST influential match day tactic and an area Bevo has been below par on.

It's staggering it's taken us so long and so many failures to fully realise the importance of accountability and particularly a 'bottom' six that are competitive, fight to the death and don't go missing or concede easily.

 

[BigFloppa]

Bevo will be singing Tooth n Nail on the podium in September

 

[Anja_Nees]

One of my bugbears in the Bevo discussion appears to have been put to bed at least.

 

[TiAn_]

One of my bugbears in the Bevo discussion appears to have been put to bed at least.

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Only took leading our goal kicking 3x, 300 goals and cracking our club’s top 10 career goal kickers by age 26.

Absolute madness that it was even a conversation post 2021.

 

[Anja_Nees]

Only took leading our goal kicking 3x, 300 goals and cracking our club’s top 10 career goal kickers by age 26.

Absolute madness that it was even a conversation post 2021.

I think people underestimate how much harder it is to find a competent key forward than a key defender.

Naughton might be marginally more competent down back than JOD or Buku, but it wouldn’t be by much. Meanwhile he’s not without a chance for the Coleman.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

I think people underestimate how much harder it is to find a competent key forward than a key defender.

Naughton might be marginally more competent down back than JOD or Buku, but it wouldn’t be by much. Meanwhile he’s not without a chance for the Coleman.

It's always far more valuable to have good players for the match situations where you have the ball and control of the game rather than have them responding to how good or bad the opposition is too.

If your good key defender is having a good game against a bad opposition key forward, the value add that you provide is not that significant. You prevented the opponent key forward kicking any goals in a game that they might have not kicked any goals in anyway irrespective of if they were matched up on Brian Lake or Ryan Gardner.

If you're a very good key forward, you'll always find a way to kick more goals irrespective of how good the defender on you is and the fact that you're playing a good game isn't wasted.

It's a very slight philosophical approach to how player goodness manifests itself in player value. Like how in the NBA, the variance in attacking plus/minus value will always be greater in offence as you can always put the balls in the hand of your best player, no matter how good the defence is. Whereas every player offers closer to similar value on defence, because you can't always assume that your best defender is good enough to always be defending their opponent's best offensive player.