Scandal Tom Silvagni convicted of rape

[BillyElliott]

So if he owned it, was remorseful the whole time and admitted it, what would have happened?

Likely a lesser sentence.

 

[The Nostradamus]

6 years and 2 months

Why the random 2 months round that shit up to 7 years

Should’ve got even more the scum bag

 

[Atavistic]

A podcast on the trial:

Melbourne’s Secret Rape Trial: Unmasking Tom Silvagni

 

[Munich]

Yep think it’s about right slight unders but I did expect them to err on the side of lesser here. It removes the ability to appeal on a sentence being manifestly excessive

I hate this outlook, yes I know it can spare the victim of future appeals, but it's not justice.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I hate this outlook, yes I know it can spare the victim of future appeals, but it's not justice.

Don’t disagree with you. I’d prefer it to be triple what was given, I don’t get how hard it is- no means no

 

[BillyElliott]

The problem is there have been innocent blokes falsely accused in the past so people are naturally skeptical in most cases now. It often comes down to he says/she says and luckily this time the text messages and attempt to hide evidence were damning

There is no evidence that many women make vexatious reports of sexual offences. The rate of false allegations of sexual offences is very low. A range of studies show approximately 5% of rape allegations are proven false.

This myth about false allegations is harmful for society and harmful for
victims of sexual offences. It contributes to under-reporting. And victims wrongly fear they will be met with disbelief and blame if they report.

https://www.police.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2019-01/FINAL-factsheet-for-web-Challenging-Misconceptions.pdf

 

[kalex6251]

no doubt a lot of thought, evidence and analysis has gone into arriving at this sentence

my own ill-informed gut feel is its unders .... and likely doesnt account for a multi-year campaign to intimidate/silence/buy-off the victim ..... surly there has to be consequences for the way the silvagni family has behaved here

 

[marcmurphy3]

I hate this outlook, yes I know it can spare the victim of future appeals, but it's not justice.

6 years is a pretty reasonable sentence. Definitely not light. I get the sentiment these days is to lock people away who do this stuff and throw away the key. But you can't really have a justice system that functions like that.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

6 years is a pretty reasonable sentence. I get the sentiment these days is to lock people away who do this stuff and throw away the key. But you can't really have a justice system that functions like that.

It’s unders, reasonable I disagree with. It’s 53% of what the prosecutors asked for. It is however expected as it decreases the chance of appeal. It might be a “reasonable” one if there was an ounce of remorse this complete trash about good character was a laugh- good characters don’t go and assault women and then go and cover the thing up.

What it does is it will make them think long and hard before an appeal this judge was lenient the next one might not be.

 

[StackedHunch]

6 years is a pretty reasonable sentence. Definitely not light. I get the sentiment these days is to lock people away who do this stuff and throw away the key. But you can't really have a justice system that functions like that.

Yeah, the head sentence seems appropriate, all things considered. It's more the fact that it's nearly a 50% discount for non-parole (which he almost certainly will be granted as soon as he's eligible) that seems a light touch.

 

[Munich]

no doubt a lot of thought, evidence and analysis has gone into arriving at this sentence

my own ill-informed gut feel is its unders .... and likely doesnt account for a multi-year campaign to intimidate/silence/buy-off the victim ..... surly there has to be consequences for the way the silvagni family has behaved here

I have a feeling the victim will be airing more on that. She doesn't seem intimidated at all which is great.

 

[Munich]

6 years is a pretty reasonable sentence. Definitely not light. I get the sentiment these days is to lock people away who do this stuff and throw away the key. But you can't really have a justice system that functions like that.

3 years isn't light and bearing anything major happening to him inside that's what he's looking at.

 

[Kirby]

The sentence is pretty spot on what was expected in the legal fraternity btw and consistent with other cases of a similar nature.

 

[phantom13]

Im not victim blaming here im just saying it does happen

It happens so rarely it isn’t worth mentioning tbh.

Woukd also be astronomically rare for those false allegations to ever get to court.

Worth looking up the stats on complaints, investigations, charges and convictions on this subject.

 

[kalex6251]

I have a feeling the victim will be airing more on that. She doesn't seem intimidated at all which is great.

lets hope she is given the space and respect to do so ..... and finds comfort and peace in the process

 

[phantom13]

no doubt a lot of thought, evidence and analysis has gone into arriving at this sentence

my own ill-informed gut feel is its unders .... and likely doesnt account for a multi-year campaign to intimidate/silence/buy-off the victim ..... surly there has to be consequences for the way the silvagni family has behaved here

Could be a civil complaint about that if it has happened as expected.

 

[Pistol Night]

It happens so rarely it isn’t worth mentioning tbh.

Woukd also be astronomically rare for those false allegations to ever get to court.

Worth looking up the stats on complaints, investigations, charges and convictions on this subject.

Look ill just ****n deiete it so everyone calms down. I think hes a piece of shit that deserves every bit of jail time coming and was just half referencing the Tanner Bruhn case as a comparison which was clearly a horrific mistake

 

[Sentinel]

no doubt a lot of thought, evidence and analysis has gone into arriving at this sentence

my own ill-informed gut feel is its unders .... and likely doesnt account for a multi-year campaign to intimidate/silence/buy-off the victim ..... surly there has to be consequences for the way the silvagni family has behaved here

I'm not here to defend the Silvagnis, but is there any evidence of this occuring (at least to the level that the courts would take into account)?

 

[Munich]

I'm not here to defend the Silvagnis, but is there any evidence of this occuring (at least to the level that the courts would take into account)?

No evidence we the public is aware of but the DPP would know if it's true.

Let's see if anything happens legally.

 

[H00t]

There is no evidence that many women make vexatious reports of sexual offences. The rate of false allegations of sexual offences is very low. A range of studies show approximately 5% of rape allegations are proven false.

This myth about false allegations is harmful for society and harmful for
victims of sexual offences. It contributes to under-reporting. And victims wrongly fear they will be met with disbelief and blame if they report.

https://www.police.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2019-01/FINAL-factsheet-for-web-Challenging-Misconceptions.pdf

Also according to the national health statistics and the ABS. 22% of women have experienced sexual violence since the age of 15.

And the majority of women (92%) who experienced sexual assault didn’t report it to the police.

False accusations are a drop in the bucket compared to the sheer amount of sexual violence that is occurring in Australia.

https://www.families.qld.gov.au/our-work/domestic-family-sexual-violence/sexual-violence-prevention/sexual-violence-statistics

 

[TheEscapeClub]

You would think that when it does come to his parole hearing that he will need to finally admit his wrong doing for them to even consider releasing him.

.and he will have had to have done all the offender courses stipulated from the MAP before he gets ton where he's going.

Maybe he'll end up in Barwon where it will be easier to segregate him as a high profile prisoner. Or they could chuck him in Hoya unit with the rapists and kiddie fiddlers, he could swap stories about the good times with Peter Dupas, John Sharpe or maybe even a real rockstar like Leslie Camilleri.

 

[TheEscapeClub]

Not sure if he'll be going to Barwon, more likely Ararat apparently.

When it comes to rehabilitation, maintaining familiy ties is seen as paramount.

If it's easier to maintain those ties by being somwehere like Barwon, which is much closer, then he'll likely end up there, if that's what they petition for.

 

[10571z]

6 years is a pretty reasonable sentence. Definitely not light. I get the sentiment these days is to lock people away who do this stuff and throw away the key. But you can't really have a justice system that functions like that.

The guys life is going to be extremely hard after he comes out. He would be lucky to get a job at Woolworths stacking shelves. This is an extremely public case and no employer would take a risk on a high profile sex offender any time soon.

The sentence I feel is about right without knowing the details and evidence etc

 

[BillyElliott]

Did Silvangi's make any comment after the sentencing today?

 

[parano1a]

Did Silvangi's make any comment after the sentencing today?

No..they stayed silent.