Banter The No Dazzlering Big Cricket Thread - 2025/26 Ashes Edition

[THE A5]

Even just Cummins playing every game would have made a massive difference. Boland can cover Hazelwood’s absence.

True but also we would have played Starc/Boland/cummins/ extra quick for a few games.

Actually tha line up would have been handy for Richo

 

[Rowan18]

Body has to be under control too.

Fair enough - guess that swings it to not out then. Rule seems a bit strange though.

 

[SloppyJoe]

And I agree with the rule. If you catch it but ground the ball as you fall over, you're literally using the ground to ensure you don't spill it.

But he wasn't using the ground to ensure he didn't spill it. He was putting his hand on the ground to soften his blow from falling down. It just so happened that he had the ball in his hand (under control) at the time and it came in contact with the ground.

But just because his "body wasn't under control", its ruled a dropped catch. That's the part of the rule I disagree with.

Sooner or later we'll have a player injure themselves in this type of situation because they choose to hit the ground hard rather than try break their fall and risk the ball touching the ground while it's in their hand.

 

[flyinghi64]

Agree, my initial thoughts were he had control of the ball so it was a catch.
Then to come back and say his body wasn't under control??? Like WTF. He's not catching his body.
So if someone catches the ball cleanly then goes for one of those headless chook runs and trips over his own feet then tries to break his fall with both hands allowing the ball to make contact with the grass it's not out??

 

[Tugga27]

But he wasn't using the ground to ensure he didn't spill it. He was putting his hand on the ground to soften his blow from falling down. It just so happened that he had the ball in his hand (under control) at the time and it came in contact with the ground.

But just because his "body wasn't under control", its ruled a dropped catch. That's the part of the rule I disagree with.

Sooner or later we'll have a player injure themselves in this type of situation because they choose to hit the ground hard rather than try break their fall and risk the ball touching the ground while it's in their hand.

I don't like it, but according to the rules, it's clearly not out.

It hits the ground twice.

 

[Seadog]

Thank cuk we've seen the back of the boring barmy army for a couple of years. They remind me of Dockers supporters, their team is a bit shit so they console themselves with the delusion that they are superior supporters.

 

[Dazzler9]

But he wasn't using the ground to ensure he didn't spill it. He was putting his hand on the ground to soften his blow from falling down. It just so happened that he had the ball in his hand (under control) at the time and it came in contact with the ground.

But just because his "body wasn't under control", its ruled a dropped catch. That's the part of the rule I disagree with.

Sooner or later we'll have a player injure themselves in this type of situation because they choose to hit the ground hard rather than try break their fall and risk the ball touching the ground while it's in their hand.

Yes, exactly. He used the ground to cushion the blow, which involved the ball touching the ground at the same time. Sorry, I just don't think that should be allowed.

"But he wasn't using the ground to ensure he didn't spill it. " He kinda was though.

 

[Dazzler9]

A 4-1 series win. But England would have to be solid favourites in 2027.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Thank cuk we've seen the back of the boring barmy army for a couple of years. They remind me of Dockers supporters, their team is a bit shit so they console themselves with the delusion that they are superior supporters.

Had some good chats with them over the last few weeks. Great people.

The boorish Aussie drunks at the SCG were a different story. (They were the minority of course, but a straight hour of 'your team sucks' and 'youse are quiet now' is very tedious.)

 

[darksquare]

A 4-1 series win. But England would have to be solid favourites in 2027.

Big unknown. Depends if we have some of our younger generation step up - Connolly, Konstas, Peake, Weibgen, Dixon, Vidler, Beardman, T Sangha, and the like.

 

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[THE A5]

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So what time you picking me up?

 

[SloppyJoe]

Yes, exactly. He used the ground to cushion the blow, which involved the ball touching the ground at the same time. Sorry, I just don't think that should be allowed.

"But he wasn't using the ground to ensure he didn't spill it. " He kinda was though.

Agree to disagree, I guess. I just think he had sufficient control of the ball such that touching the ground made no difference. The rule should be able to accommodate this.

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

Batting average in the Sydney test:

Green 59
Stokes 0.5

Guess we know who the superior all-rounder is

 

[THE A5]

Is this the worst english team to tour since 2013? Mind you they played dumb and Aus weren’t at full strength but to me they’re not better than any of those teams despite the win

 

[Doashuey]

Had some good chats with them over the last few weeks. Great people.

The boorish Aussie drunks at the SCG were a different story. (They were the minority of course, but a straight hour of 'your team sucks' and 'youse are quiet now' is very tedious.)

Agree, love what they bring to the cricket (except the Smith booing, get over it,). Dedicated to their team win lose or draw.

 

[Keys]

Funny series with the win built largely on the efforts of Starc, Head and Carey. Boland and Neser provided decent support for Starc with the ball albeit both benefited from Carey standing up at the stumps which took away a key tactic of the English batters

Smith’s century in this test bolstered an otherwise below average series for him. All our other bats would be disappointed with their series overall with only Labuschagne (twice), Weatherald, Khawaja and Webster (from his only innings) managing to pass 50 from a combined 39 innings

Starc reached 50 himself in two innnings

So a series built on three standout performances and England’s own ineptitude. Carse (22 wickets) was their leading wicket taker although Tongue was their most dangerous after being overlooked for the first two tests

Root had two great innings and 8 poor ones and Bethell was probably their next best despite only getting a game after the series had already been lost

 

[amazingjoshy]

Agree to disagree, I guess. I just think he had sufficient control of the ball such that touching the ground made no difference. The rule should be able to accommodate this.

Spot on

Babar Azam just took a catch in the game tonight running to his left and immediately threw the ball in the air while his momentum was still taking him left

Letter of the law he wasn't "in control" of his body.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

The Barmy Army are the best supporters in the world, no contest.

 

[MrWoollie]

Series is done - you lads are far better than us. No debating.

This technology is pathetic though. Simple as

Since the days of Kerry Packer and WSC, Australia has been a major technology adapter and innovator when it comes to cricket and cricket tech. Think multiple camera angles, high speed cameras, cameras inside stumps, stump microphones, snicko, hotspot, ball tracking, 3rd umpire, review system and so on. Not all invented in Aust but many were first used there.
But Australia has stuck with snicko when it has been overtaken and pushed into the tech gutter by ultra-edge.

I'm amazed that the ICC doesn't mandate exactly what tech is to be used for test cricket. They mandate neutral umpires and use an international pool to achieve supposed neutrality. They expect certain tech but allow host countries to choose what version is used. Strange.

Really need to get Hotspot back for future series.

Loved hotspot but...
Expensive (apparently $10K+ per day) and unreliable and easy to defeat with Vaseline on the edge or bat tape etc.

 

[Truckosaurus]

I'm amazed that the ICC doesn't mandate exactly what tech is to be used for test cricket. They mandate neutral umpires and use an international pool to achieve supposed neutrality. They expect certain tech but allow host countries to choose what version is used. Strange.

Nah, could wind up forcing India to do something they don't want to if they did that.

 

[FKASC]

whats the difference between Snicko and Ultra Edge??

 

[Astro7]

Thank cuk we've seen the back of the boring barmy army for a couple of years. They remind me of Dockers supporters, their team is a bit shit so they console themselves with the delusion that they are superior supporters.

I heard they're disbanding, won't be coming out in force any more? This was their last hurrah!
On another note, this photo displays the adult content of the pom team - would've been perfect if Roots number was 69?

 

[Dazzler9]

whats the difference between Snicko and Ultra Edge??

I dunno, what?

 

[MrWoollie]

whats the difference between Snicko and Ultra Edge??

• Frame Rate and Precision: UltraEdge utilizes high-speed tracking cameras (developed by Hawk-Eye) capable of up to 340 frames per second (fps). In contrast, standard Snicko typically relies on broadcast cameras operating at roughly 50 fps. This higher frame rate allows UltraEdge to more accurately pinpoint the exact moment of contact between the ball and the bat.
• Automation vs. Manual Alignment: UltraEdge automatically amalgamates sound and vision using Hawk-Eye's ball-tracking data, reducing human error. Snicko requires a human operator to manually align the recorded sound spikes with the video footage, a process more prone to calibration issues or "manual timing" delays.
• Audio Processing: UltraEdge features more refined software that better filters ambient noise (like the bat hitting the pad or the ground), producing "cleaner" waveforms that are easier for umpires to interpret.
• Cost and Adoption: UltraEdge is significantly more expensive to license and operate than Snicko.