Western Australian State Cricket Team: Treble Winners. Again

[avishka5]

Agar? Paris?

Injured.

 

[The Speaker]

Usman Qadir was booked going 50ks over the limit.

 

[avishka5]

Usman Qadir was booked going 50ks over the limit.

Good. Hopefully he goes back to playing full time grade cricket in Sydney. been a waste of a list spot this year.

 

[ioppolo]

Usman Qadir was booked going 50ks over the limit.

Deport him back to Pakistan

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Assuming they caught him halfway down a road seeing as that’s where he’s been all summer.

 

[wolmeister]

According to The West: “The WACA already faces a challenge to retain dashing young batsman Josh Philippe who has become a NSW target after a breakthrough season for Sydney Sixers.” The decision not to sign him for the Scorchers is looking more stupid than ever.

 

[Aussie_boy]

According to The West: “The WACA already faces a challenge to retain dashing young batsman Josh Philippe who has become a NSW target after a breakthrough season for Sydney Sixers.” The decision not to sign him for the Scorchers is looking more stupid than ever.

That’s not a very NSW thing to do. Something you’re more likely to see from Victoria.

 

[Torz]

According to The West: “The WACA already faces a challenge to retain dashing young batsman Josh Philippe who has become a NSW target after a breakthrough season for Sydney Sixers.” The decision not to sign him for the Scorchers is looking more stupid than ever.

They’re also reporting that Moody might move to Tassie permanently next year. Apparently he’s frustrated about not getting the new ball. He doesn’t swing it, so why would he?

 

[Aussie_boy]

They’re also reporting that Moody might move to Tassie permanently next year. Apparently he’s frustrated about not getting the new ball. He doesn’t swing it, so why would he?

He should be grateful to WA for how many games they've given him. Not sure moving to Tassie would be any different for him, their bowling attack is pretty strong these days with Bell, Meredith, Bird and Rogers plus Faulkner if he ever decides to play again.

 

[Agent93]

They’re also reporting that Moody might move to Tassie permanently next year. Apparently he’s frustrated about not getting the new ball. He doesn’t swing it, so why would he?

Lack of other options? Next shield match Jhye's off in India, so you've got Moody / Kelly / Mackin? / Green. I'd reckon Moody gets a shot at it.

 

[Torz]

Lack of other options? Next shield match Jhye's off in India, so you've got Moody / Kelly / Mackin? / Green. I'd reckon Moody gets a shot at it.

He’s got a stress fracture and won’t be available for the first shield game anyway.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

According to The West: “The WACA already faces a challenge to retain dashing young batsman Josh Philippe who has become a NSW target after a breakthrough season for Sydney Sixers.” The decision not to sign him for the Scorchers is looking more stupid than ever.

Terrible news.

They’re also reporting that Moody might move to Tassie permanently next year. Apparently he’s frustrated about not getting the new ball. He doesn’t swing it, so why would he?

Good news.

 

[JackOutback]

According to The West: “The WACA already faces a challenge to retain dashing young batsman Josh Philippe who has become a NSW target after a breakthrough season for Sydney Sixers.” The decision not to sign him for the Scorchers is looking more stupid than ever.

To be fair, he was a keeper/batsman in a team that included Whiteman, Inglis and Bancroft. And is probably tied up with multiple long term contracts. I doubt it was a case of snubbing him, I’m sure they are aware of the talent they have.

 

[ioppolo]

I'm surprised Tassie would consider Moody, he's been pus this BBL.

 

[Tugga27]

To be fair, he was a keeper/batsman in a team that included Whiteman, Inglis and Bancroft. And is probably tied up with multiple long term contracts. I doubt it was a case of snubbing him, I’m sure they are aware of the talent they have.

I don't get the part "tied up with multiple long term contracts".

It was a shocking decision IMO.
They offered him a supplementary contract only, yet Bosito and some others
were given contracts.

No excuses IMO.

 

[JackOutback]

I don't get the part "tied up with multiple long term contracts".

It was a shocking decision IMO.
They offered him a supplementary contract only, yet Bosito and some others
were given contracts.

No excuses IMO.

A lot of players were signed in the past for more than one year; I don't know the details, but maybe Bosisto was one the second year of a contract. As I said, Philippe is a young player in a position we had a surplus of, and reports are our contract situation is tight. I very much doubt he was signed sight unseen by the Sixers, he was obviously in NSW's sights. The lack of a Scorchers contract is hardly going to be the reason he leaves if he does. The BBL was designed for players to move around more.

 

[Ishikawa]

Moody's a bit underrated, particularly in Shield cricket but given our strength in the bowling department can understand why he will want to seek further opportunities.

Guarantee the same people moping about Philippe had zero to say about it at the time. Inglis and Whiteman are both good enough to play in the role of the top order wicketkeeper-batsman. Then you also have Bancroft who was going to come back in up the top as another option with the gloves. That's three guys who were quite rightfully ahead of Philippe at the start of the season, can go on about the others like Bosisto (whose performed roles for Scorchers reasonably well in the past & offers flat low-economy spin option) or that the demise in Klinger's form should've been anticipated (hard to say as he had a lot of credits in the bank and old pros like he, Hodge, Voges, Watson and Hogg have shown they don't die easy).

 

[Tugga27]

Moody's a bit underrated, particularly in Shield cricket but given our strength in the bowling department can understand why he will want to seek further opportunities.

Guarantee the same people moping about Philippe had zero to say about it at the time. Inglis and Whiteman are both good enough to play in the role of the top order wicketkeeper-batsman. Then you also have Bancroft who was going to come back in up the top as another option with the gloves. That's three guys who were quite rightfully ahead of Philippe at the start of the season, can go on about the others like Bosisto (whose performed roles for Scorchers reasonably well in the past & offers flat low-economy spin option) or that the demise in Klinger's form should've been anticipated (hard to say as he had a lot of credits in the bank and old pros like he, Hodge, Voges, Watson and Hogg have shown they don't die easy).

Even before a ball was bowled, a lot of people were concerned when he wasn't offered a contract.

Here we have a 21 year old who had a really good game against top class international bowlers
and shows a lot of promise.

I agree, it's easy in hindsight, but I think the Scorchers lacked some foresight.

 

[eth-dog]

Lack of other options? Next shield match Jhye's off in India, so you've got Moody / Kelly / Mackin? / Green. I'd reckon Moody gets a shot at it.

You really only need 3 seamers given that M Marsh was dropped from the ODI squad and even Cartwright if you're desperate. Then with spin you'll have Agar, Short, Bosisto and Turner if he can.

 

[wolmeister]

A lot of players were signed in the past for more than one year; I don't know the details, but maybe Bosisto was one the second year of a contract. As I said, Philippe is a young player in a position we had a surplus of, and reports are our contract situation is tight. I very much doubt he was signed sight unseen by the Sixers, he was obviously in NSW's sights. The lack of a Scorchers contract is hardly going to be the reason he leaves if he does. The BBL was designed for players to move around more.

I disagree with that, he easily holds his own as a bat. And batting depth is one thing the Scorchers didn't have this season, like usual. Plenty of pace bowlers though.

 

[JackOutback]

I disagree with that, he easily holds his own as a bat. And batting depth is one thing the Scorchers didn't have this season, like usual. Plenty of pace bowlers though.

I don't think they anticipated both Marshes being in the Test frame or Klinger falling off a cliff. We can criticise their forward thinking, but a team of SMarsh, Bancroft, Klinger, Cartwright, Turner, MMarsh, Agar should have done better than they did. Plus, while Phillippe had a good one-day tournament, he struggled in Shield. That said, he looks a real talent and I hope they keep him.

 

[kane249]

Phillipe moving to NSW would almost be like them paying us back for poaching Gilchrist all those years ago

 

[Tugga27]

I don't think they anticipated both Marshes being in the Test frame or Klinger falling off a cliff. We can criticise their forward thinking, but a team of SMarsh, Bancroft, Klinger, Cartwright, Turner, MMarsh, Agar should have done better than they did. Plus, while Phillippe had a good one-day tournament, he struggled in Shield. That said, he looks a real talent and I hope they keep him.

After the 3 suspensions, both Marshes were always going to play IMO.
That should've been anticipated.

You're right, they couldn't anticipate Klinger going a year too long.
Add to that, Cartwright is not a good T20 player IMO. His stats over a longish period support that.
Mmarsh was dreadful when he came back.He really shouldn't be captain.
Tye had a poor series by his standards going at 8.5 per over.

What really hurt was our 2 international signings.
Both wouldn't get a game when we have a full side.
They really needed to target some explosive batters.

On the upside, Kelly really stood up and after Dorff was probably our best bowler.

 

[Tugga27]

'Special player' Philippe set to ignite BBL bidding war

Young Sydney Sixers batsman Josh Philippe is set to become one of the hottest properties in the Big Bash League as a bidding war for his long-term services looks likely to take place between the Sixers and Perth Scorchers.
Philippe, 21, produced another stunning innings in the BBL semi-final clubbing 52 from just 31 balls to get the Sixers away to a flyer against the Melbourne Renegades.

The Sixers were beaten in the end thanks to some Dan Christian heroics, but Philippe's second half-century of the season only furthered the Sixers desire to sign him long-term.
"That's in the works and that's obviously up to Josh," Sixers captain Moises Henriques."But definitely after the season he's had, we'd be stupid not to entertain that."

Philippe's case is complicated in that he plays his 50-over and four-day domestic cricket for Western Australia and lives in Perth most of the year. He made his T20 debut for Perth Scorchers last season and was set to start BBL08 as a replacement player for the Scorchers while Shaun Marsh was away on Test match duty and Cameron Bancroft out suspended.
The Scorchers could not contract him as they had exhausted their 18-man roster but were confident right up until early December that Philippe would play for them. But the Sixers, with help from suspended former Australian captain Steven Smith who contacted Philippe personally, convinced the keeper-batsman to join them on a one-year contract just prior to the BBL starting.

It left the Scorchers seething while the Sixers knew they had a special talent on their hands. He delivered with 304 runs at a strike-rate of 158.33, the best of all players with 100 runs or more in the tournament. He was also the stand-out batsmen according to ESPNcricinfo's smart strike-rate measurement*.
"From the day that he came on board I was really excited about the potential he had," Henriques said. "We started him batting at No.6. Although he didn't score a mountain of runs at No.6 he was coming and making really significant impacts on the game, [20 off 13, 14 not off 7], which sometimes in that role can be more important than a 30 off 20 from someone in the top four. He was always putting the bowlers under pressure.
"And he'd always batted at the top. For him to adapt to that middle order like he did I thought that this kid is a pretty special talent. I think personally, No.5, 6, 7 are the hardest to bat in T20 cricket. The later you have to come in, all the bowlers know exactly what the wicket is doing, they know the fields they're using and any mishits are usually caught by the guys out on the boundary so you've got to be able to manipulate the ball. Right from the first or second game that he played of professional domestic T20 cricket, he took to it like a duck to water."
It took the Sixers nine games to move him to the top of the order where he had done so much damage for WA in the JLT Cup, and against South Africa in the Prime Minister's XI game in Canberra. But it paid dividends with 86 not out from 49 balls against the Hobart Hurricanes and then 52 off 31 against the Renegades.

"If we take him away from that middle order position then we take away some of our power there but at the same time we felt like he was batting so well that we wanted to give him as many balls as possible to face during a game," Henriques said. "Once he moved to the top he played two outstanding innings and you could just tell the opposition bowlers don't enjoy bowling to him. I think he's going to be a pretty special player. Enough has been said about him. But he was a huge positive."

Philippe will now head back to WA for the remainder of the season. He found himself out of their Sheffield Shield side prior to the BBL having made a century against Victoria batting at No.6 in the first game of the season. But he was rushed to the top of the order for the next three matches and returned scores of 4, 2, 12, 2 and 6 before being dropped.
However, it is understood WA and the Scorchers are desperate to sign him long-term across all formats leaving Philippe with a choice to make.

 

[wolmeister]

I don't think they anticipated both Marshes being in the Test frame or Klinger falling off a cliff. We can criticise their forward thinking, but a team of SMarsh, Bancroft, Klinger, Cartwright, Turner, MMarsh, Agar should have done better than they did. Plus, while Phillippe had a good one-day tournament, he struggled in Shield. That said, he looks a real talent and I hope they keep him.

He had a great start to the season in the middle order and then struggled when he was moved to open. I don't think that competition is the one that should be used as a form guide for T20 anyway. Completely different game.