Politics The Hangar Politics Thread

[Lore]

A bit of googling tells me he probably needs therapy, not a plane ticket and a platform.

 

[BrunoV]

He's a British journalist, now based in the US who achieved a level of fame and notoriety due to his opinions on feminism, political correctness, Islam among other things.

It's the opinions, but more often than not his delivery of said opinions is extremely direct and crass, I'd suggest to the point of being deliberately offensive (as an example, 'feminism is cancer' would be a good one, very deliberately provocative).

He was at one point editor of Breitbart news, and I'd suggest that most peoples initial exposure to him would have been through YouTube videos of his speeches/talks at university campuses in the United States - which are frequently picketed, leading to him being banned from campuses etc which he used as more fuel for his notoriety (the left want to silence people etc).

Personally I like him, without necessarily agreeing with what he says, primarily because he shines a light on what I believe is a plague of perennially offended, morally up-righteous twats. He's often been quoted stating '**** your feelings'; in the context of actual fact being more important than how people feel about various topics.

I'm in the same boat. I think he's hilarious but I'm not going to cite him as an authority on all that much and in certainly not going to pay to see him talk.

What he said about Trudeu a few years ago on Rogan was priceless.

 

[Loonerty]

The issue is that there are people who aren't being "trolled" and actually legitimately believe everything he says. In my mind he's a ****head and personally I'm glad that he's not allowed to enter and spread more shit.

 

[Jade]

The issue is that there are people who aren't being "trolled" and actually legitimately believe everything he says.

True, but there are actually people that believe everything Clementine Ford says. What's the difference?

In my mind he's a ****head and personally I'm glad that he's not allowed to enter and spread more shit.

Who decides what is and is not a valid thought or opinion?

 

[quotemokc]

A bit of googling tells me he probably needs therapy, not a plane ticket and a platform.

What are you, an antisemitic homophobe? (sarcasm)

 

[Loonerty]

Who decides what is and is not a valid thought or opinion?

If it's more likely to promote bigotry, I think it's invalid.

 

[DapperJong]

If it's more likely to promote bigotry, I think it's invalid.

But Loons if he says it in a funny way then it's a pisser

 

[Phone]

this is the biggest outrage since milo got banned form patron after his schtick got old and he was left owing a million dollars and he needed money real bad

 

[Jade]

If it's more likely to promote bigotry, I think it's invalid.

Define that word for me, if you could.

 

[Loonerty]

Define that word for me, if you could.

Apologies, I've used the wrong word.

I should have said promote discrimination and hate.

 

[Jade]

Apologies, I've used the wrong word.

I should have said promote discrimination and hate.

Ok.

Would you therefore suggest that someone like Clementine Ford also holds invalid views, and should be deplatformed?

 

[Loonerty]

Ok.

Would you therefore suggest that someone like Clementine Ford also holds invalid views, and should be deplatformed?

I don't think she promotes the same level of hate and discrimination that Milo promotes but I don't agree with everything she says either.

 

[Lore]

Ok.

Would you therefore suggest that someone like Clementine Ford also holds invalid views, and should be deplatformed?

It would appear that she has been.

 

[Jade]

It would appear that she has been.

Is that so? In what way?

 

[Lore]

Is that so? In what way?

Banned from Facebook and forced to resign from her posts as a columnist in prominent newspapers. It's rather hard to prevent her entering the country since she's a citizen, but that would appear to be a loss of platform.

 

[Beerfish]

Who decides what is and is not a valid thought or opinion?

I DO

 

[Jade]

I don't think she promotes the same level of hate and discrimination that Milo promotes but I don't agree with everything she says either.

You reckon?

"Kill all men. And then kill them again."

"All men are scum and must die."

"Will not stop till all men are humiliated and dominated"

I would suggest that the above comments are more hateful than any ever uttered by Milo Yiannopoulos.

 

[Loonerty]

You reckon?

"Kill all men. And then kill them again."

"All men are scum and must die."

"Will not stop till all men are humiliated and dominated"

I would suggest that the above comments are more hateful than any ever uttered by Milo Yiannopoulos.

I would be stunned if those were direct quotes.

 

[Jade]

Banned from Facebook

For 30 days? Oh the poor thing, how will she cope?

and forced to resign from her posts as a columnist in prominent newspapers.

Rubbish. Factually incorrect RUBBISH.

She was given a lawful direction from her employer, and CHOSE not to follow that direction and resigned.

 

[Jade]

I would be stunned if those were direct quotes.

Then prepare to be stunned.

 

[jmoo wan]

set phasers to stun.

 

[Phone]

anyway there's not really any logical reason for milo to be allowed in when chelsea manning, gavin mcinnes and david icke have all recently not been allowed (or a decision delayed and delayed to the point that they couldn't come) and nothing of value is being missed

 

[DapperJong]

You reckon?

"Kill all men. And then kill them again."

"All men are scum and must die."

"Will not stop till all men are humiliated and dominated"

I would suggest that the above comments are more hateful than any ever uttered by Milo Yiannopoulos.

She does it to get a rise. Sounds very similar to Milo. But I don’t see a wave of feminists around killing men.

I still see a lot more of men abusing women in many which way.

Milo has far more power than Clem does to cause harm.

 

[Jade]

She does it to get a rise.

I know she does! Isn't it funny how its just for a laff, just getting a rise, when it's her - but when it's Milo it's spreading hate and discrimination...

Sounds very similar to Milo. But I don’t see a wave of feminists around killing men.

I still see a lot more of men abusing women in many which way.

But you see a wave of right wing, gay, political commentators killing women? That's news to me.

Milo has far more power than Clem does to cause harm.

Bullshit. Point me to a direct causal impact, Milo Yiannopoulos causing actual harm.

 

[DapperJong]

I know she does! Isn't it funny how its just for a laff, just getting a rise, when it's her - but when it's Milo it's spreading hate and discrimination...



But you see a wave of right wing, gay, political commentators killing women? That's news to me.



Bullshit. Point me to a direct causal impact, Milo Yiannopoulos causing actual harm.

I’m too busy to give you stats as I’m watching mafs.

But regardless whether he is gay or not, many men are gonna take his message and run with it.

You can’t deny that women need some help when it comes to abuse. Milo does not help.

Please don’t confuse me form a Clem supporter. The likes of her and Hannah Gadsby shit me. But they are the lesser of two evils.

At the end of the day the right decision was made.