Oppo Camp Jaidyn Stephenson (Traded to Nth Melb. 2020)

[Aishole]

Did I say it was easy? Yes, I agree that NBA basketballers are outrageously tall - in fact a lot taller than the guys who originally played basketball. In those days, it took reasonable skill to throw a 2 pointer. They didnt just put it in.

At any rate, if someone made a bet with me to make a 3 pointer or to kick a 65 metre goal like Paul Seedsman did on the weekend, I know which one I would pick.

You certainly went out of your way and made multiple examples of how easy the sport seems to you.

Im going to assume you don’t watch modern NBA ... they don’t just ‘put the ball in’ hahaha.

Yeah obviously.. a 65 metre bomb happen how often though? Haha

 

[Markfs]

You certainly went out of your way and made multiple examples of how easy the sport seems to you.

Im going to assume you don’t watch modern NBA ... they don’t just ‘put the ball in’ hahaha.

Yeah obviously.. a 65 metre bomb happen how often though? Haha

I dont watch a lot of NBA games in full because the first 3 and a half quarters is usually pretty pedestrian. However, you seem to miss the point that two sports can be difficult to play but one might be harder. AFL is more challenging across the board. Let me give an example. NBA guys are usually extra tall because the game rewards height but doesnt penalise it as much. In AFL, you cant have 22 mason coxs because they would be outrun. AFL rewards players who can think. NBA not so much. AFL rewards players who can catch, be quick with their hands, kick the ball, etc. NBA is mostly in the hands and the players are always standing. AFL rewards bravery. NBA not so much. I could go on.

I have no doubt that if the world played AFL, the players' errors would reduce, but the game is almost impossible to do with very few errors. It's just incredibly difficult to spot up a 40 metre kick when you're tired, than to make a 2 metre pass. Kicking a ball is inherently harder than passing by hand. When you kick it, you actually drop it on your foot and there's a split second when its not under your control. That doesnt happen with throwing it. Players kicking for goal have to allow for the wind. That doesnt happen in NBA.

If you cant see AFL is inherently more difficult than basketball....then enjoy LA and have a nice day.

 

[jmac70]

I didn’t know Stevo also plays NBA. Is there nothing this boy can’t do?

 

[Frank Gallagher]

Did I say it was easy? Yes, I agree that NBA basketballers are outrageously tall - in fact a lot taller than the guys who originally played basketball. In those days, it took reasonable skill to throw a 2 pointer. They didnt just put it in.

At any rate, if someone made a bet with me to make a 3 pointer or to kick a 65 metre goal like Paul Seedsman did on the weekend, I know which one I would pick.

But how many 65mtr barrels are kicked per game?

 

[JB1975]

How about some darts after five pints as you blink back tears from the wafting smoke of the cigarette hanging from your mouth? That's pressure, that's elite performance, and AFL/NBA 'athletes' wouldn't know the first thing about it.

 

[Markfs]

But how many 65mtr barrels are kicked per game?

probably more than 3 pointers from half court

 

[Markfs]

How about some darts after five pints as you blink back tears from the wafting smoke of the cigarette hanging from your mouth? That's pressure, that's elite performance, and AFL/NBA 'athletes' wouldn't know the first thing about it.

if you get 3 triple-20s in that condition, you should be running the planet

 

[sirlothie]

How about some darts after five pints as you blink back tears from the wafting smoke of the cigarette hanging from your mouth? That's pressure, that's elite performance, and AFL/NBA 'athletes' wouldn't know the first thing about it.

Or holding down the copious amounts of liquid in your stomach after you suck it the wrong way and desperately try not to hurl it all up while the crowd is around you and the bouncers lurking. That's pressure... these guys wouldn't know the foggiest thing about it.

 

[sr36]

Or holding down the copious amounts of liquid in your stomach after you suck it the wrong way and desperately try not to hurl it all up while the crowd is around you and the bouncers lurking. That's pressure... these guys wouldn't know the foggiest thing about it.

And not to mention the discipline necessary to keep your belly at the perfect size and firmness to act as the ideal shelf for your pint. It's an incredibly fine line between too small and too soft. Any mistakes in preperation results in your pint not sitting properly and your balance is put right out.

 

[Collingwoodity]

By bursting through defences, turning on the afterburners, and then kicking behinds?

Week before he kicked a goal doing that.

 

[MagpieJoel]

To slender to play as a forward target, just get him on the wing and tell him to play his nature game!


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That's where he has been playing.

If he is "too slender" to play forward, why did he kick that many goals last year? And why do any small forwards kick goals?

 

[sr36]

yeah i guess in hindsight was dropping Varcoe the right call he does play front and square well and his tackles stick. even mixing things up a little more as varcoe can play off HB. so i would have loved to see someone like Maynard or Crisp thrown on the wing. especially given that Crisp struggled to get involved in the game.

Probably the wrong call for this individual game, but it was worth a shot. We thought we could avoid the zone, we had a crack, it didn't work out. Next time we need to make sure we have a team who can contest in the zone when we have no other alternative - I reckon Varcoe should be in that team.

 

[Markfs]

Or holding down the copious amounts of liquid in your stomach after you suck it the wrong way and desperately try not to hurl it all up while the crowd is around you and the bouncers lurking. That's pressure... these guys wouldn't know the foggiest thing about it.

actually commentators refer to AFL throwing up quite a lot when they come off in a state of exhaustion, so the AFL boys do experience the need to throw up, although they're not as good as the dart players in keeping it down. As for NBA players, they probably only experience this issue after the game when they're on their private planes experiencing turbulence.

 

[sr36]

actually commentators refer to AFL throwing up quite a lot when they come off in a state of exhaustion, so the AFL boys do experience the need to throw up, although they're not as good as the dart players in keeping it down. As for NBA players, they probably only experience this issue after the game when they're on their private planes experiencing turbulence.

You've never played basketball have you? Seriously exhausting game.

 

[Markfs]

You've never played basketball have you? Seriously exhausting game.

And it's obviously more exhausting than an AFL which is only an Australian game and can't hope to compete as the biggest and the bestest with an American game like basketball. I'm sure that even those line backers in the gridiron can run a marathon in near 2 hours.

Anyway back to reality.... my original post was about a reason why AFL players make mistakes. I believe it's because they have to do some difficult to perfect skills in a high intensity environment. If I was commenting on which sport had players with the most intricate first names, then of course the NBA would win.

 

[sr36]

And it's obviously more exhausting than an AFL which is only an Australian game and can't hope to compete as the biggest and the bestest with an American game like basketball. I'm sure that even those line backers in the gridiron can run a marathon in near 2 hours.

Anyway back to reality.... my original post was about a reason why AFL players make mistakes. I believe it's because they have to do some difficult to perfect skills in a high intensity environment. If I was commenting on which sport had players with the most intricate first names, then of course the NBA would win.

It was a crap comparison, where you showed a complete lack of knowledge of the sport. Skills of both sports can't be perfected. Round ball makes control easier, but because of this the level of control needed to be elite is way higher. Basketball requires greater, more constant intensity but for much shorter shorter time frames.

 

[TradeDraft]

 

[Tbone McGraw]

Jaidyn is the perfect wingman.

 

[spartan-magpie]

Will kick 4 tonight.

 

[sirlothie]

Saw in the paper Stevo's stats are actually up across the board this season playing further up the field. It didn't seem like that to me, he seemed quieter but maybe his stats upfield aren't as impactful yet so they slide under the radar more rather than his possessions being noticeable goals and assists. Was probably a bit harsh on him but probably needs to average 20 possessions rather than 15 to be just as damaging upfield as forward.

 

[sirlothie]

Jaidyn is the perfect wingman.

I agree, he needs space to be able to utilise his speed and burn off his opponents then he will gain some serious metreage and be very damaging, haven't seen him get on many runs and bounces yet this season.

 

[Tbone McGraw]

I agree, he needs space to be able to utilise his speed and burn off his opponents then he will gain some serious metreage and be very damaging, haven't seen him get on many runs and bounces yet this season.

I think the wing will be his long term position, especially with the 6-6-6.

His pace is unbelievable. Kicking ok but not great.

Edit:I am not sure about his endurance and 2 way running. but it looks ok to me.

 

[sirlothie]

I think the wing will be his long term position, especially with the 6-6-6.

His pace is unbelievable. Kicking ok but not great.

Edit:I am not sure about his endurance and 2 way running. but it looks ok to me.

It will only get better. I would just like him to bulk up a little bit more but keep his pace hopefully. Then he will be a real gun if he gets strong enough to burst away from tacklers.

 

[Tbone McGraw]

It will only get better. I would just like him to bulk up a little bit more but keep his pace hopefully. Then he will be a real gun if he gets strong enough to burst away from tacklers.

Totally agree on all points.

 

[Tbone McGraw]

It will only get better. I would just like him to bulk up a little bit more but keep his pace hopefully. Then he will be a real gun if he gets strong enough to burst away from tacklers.

If Jaidyn can bulk up, improve his kicking and endurance, and still keep his pace, he will win a brownlow.