Movie Star Wars - Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker - Spoilers and Rumors

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

or, reincarnation of the prime jedi. who was both light and dark. explains why she can so easily go to the dark side too.

{theory on reddit}

I really like that theory.

 

[mike123]

I don't like either of those.

It's not like they have to try to hard to explain it away. Despite the constant accusations of Mary Sue, it's not like she has bought down Star Destoryers with her bare hands. Even if we accept she's more powerful than equivalent characters, she's only moved a few rocks around, beaten a slightly injured Kylo Ren etc... maybe she's just a prodigy.

You can’t be just a prodigy when you learn the force with less effort than the chosen one.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

She bested Luke the greatest Jedi of all time like it's nothing.

 

[JackOutback]

She bested Luke the greatest Jedi of all time like it's nothing.

A Jedi not drawing on the Force. And she didn't best him, Luke was accounting for her quite easily, dodged every move, didn't allow her to lay a finger on her, used only one hand, he literally fell when she grabbed a lightsaber and you could argue he was backing off because he didn't want to engage her in a life or death fight. The idea that Rey beat him is one of the greater myths of TLJ.

 

[exe ex machina]

seems like a lot of myths in TLJ

 

[Taylor]

The force created Anakin to combat Palpatine, except Palpatine was going to use Anakin's body as his new one when his shell finally died.

Anakin got messed up by Obi Wan so Palpatine let the twins live, leaving Obi Wan alone knowing he would begin the training and pass him to Yoda to get him ready for him to replace his father and be taken over by his spirit.

He didn't see Anakin turning on him and it threw a spanner in the plan.

Palpatine makes another in Rey but this time she sacrifices herself to kill Palpatine in some opposing attraction explosion of the force and the cycle ends with balance restored.

End of saga.

 

[Janus]

but snoke was built up as predating plaguis and sidious by 1,000 years, and watched the empire from afar, taking note of how sodious and vader went wrong.

thats canon

Really? Show me where it’s canon that he’s over a thousand years old, cause I can’t find it. The best I can find is that he saw the rise and fall of the Empire, which is not more than 30 years.

Andy Serkis said that Snoke is a couple of hundred years old - but that’s not canon. But even if you assume that to be the case, Palpatine was in his 60s during the prequels, it’s very easy to assume that Plagueis was older than Snoke by quite a distance.

 

[exe ex machina]

for JackOutback

 

[exe ex machina]

the most popular theory of the title is as explained in this video. which is that "skywalker" is a new order, to replace the jedi.

but imo, the skywalker rising is luke, an ascension.

 

[SM]

the most popular theory of the title is as explained in this video. which is that "skywalker" is a new order, to replace the jedi.

but imo, the skywalker rising is luke, an ascension.

I think that's going to be it, except the nitpick in me thinks that should mean the title should be plural.

 

[Taylor]

They've decided force users can intervene now with lightning, so maybe Luke will be super Jedi

 

[exe ex machina]

the other idea i have of it....is that at the end of the movie, the entire galaxy is told of the sacrifices etc of the skywalker family, and their name therefore is redeemed across the galaxy, whereas for a long time before, skywalker was associated with turmoil and pain in the galaxy -- anakin turning to vader, ben taking over the galaxy, luke becoming a decrepit man abandoning the galaxy to snoke's first order. so the entire galaxy pretty much hate and discredit the Skywalker name. But by the end of this movie, the galaxy will realize their sacrifices etc.

 

[Taylor]

And maybe the good spirit of Luke is locked away with the evil of another, in some shrine that traps the force within.

Then 100 years later they can open it and the force escapes setting up their new movie franchise.

 

[Strange Cat]

And maybe the good spirit of Luke is locked away with the evil of another, in some shrine that traps the force within.

Then 100 years later they can open it and the force escapes setting up their new movie franchise.

Let the past die mannnnn

 

[Taylor]

Let the past die mannnnn

It's Disney they will want more story.

Oh wait.. It's bad robot... They will remake a new hope with a time shift happen and a new alternative timeline series will be made where anakin doesn't turn

 

[edgie]

A Jedi not drawing on the Force. And she didn't best him, Luke was accounting for her quite easily, dodged every move, didn't allow her to lay a finger on her, used only one hand, he literally fell when she grabbed a lightsaber and you could argue he was backing off because he didn't want to engage her in a life or death fight. The idea that Rey beat him is one of the greater myths of TLJ.

So Luke chucked the towel in then? So what was the point of the fight? The fight where he did use the force to pull his weapon to him.


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[glenferry23]

I think that's going to be it, except the nitpick in me thinks that should mean the title should be plural.

I thought so too, but then again the word Jedi itself is also a plural. Plus having “Skywalkers” in the title would perhaps give the meaning away too easily.

As it stands now, just having “Skywalker” has led to (and will continue for the next 8 months) rampant speculation on who/what it means. Could it be Luke, Leia, Kylo, Rey?

I agree it will end up referring to the next evolution of the Jedi.

 

[exe ex machina]

TL;DR....Sky-Walker is a Chiss term translated to Basic, describing force sensitive people who can navigate thru treacherous paths by having great precognition.

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So I just finished reading Thrawn: Alliances by Timothy Zahn, and there was an interesting little tidbit I feel I should mention in light of Episode IX's title reveal.

This could be a red herring, but it's interesting nonetheless.

In the book, it is revealed that the Chiss navigate hyperspace through force-sensitive children that use precognition to forsee any obstacles and mass shadows ahead of themselves, especially useful in the Unknown Regions where very few hyperspace lanes are mapped.

At one point in the book, Thrawn has Vader perform the same Force Navigation techniques to pilot his flagship, the Chimera, in pursuit of a group of Alien Marauders who have kidnapped a number of the Chiss Navigators.

Thrawn muses that the name given to the navigators translates into Basic as "Sky-Walkers".

Vader thinks Thrawn's figuring out his identity as Anakin, (which he is), though Thrawn deflects calling it a coincidence.

I just think it's interesting to suddenly bring significance to the names in this way, and in a way that could end up being relevant.

I mean, the fact that "The Skywalkers" are the only ones to unlock the secrets of travel through the Unknown Regions according to Chiss culture, and the only Non-Chiss to have done this is Anakin "Skywalker".

Interesting, huh?

 

[exe ex machina]

Ozyly-esehembo

The title of Ozyly-esehembo was a Cheunh word for Force-sensitive Chiss navigators, which translated to Galactic Basic as 'sky-walker.' Grand Admiral Thrawn, a Chiss, recounted his confusion when meeting Anakin Skywalker during the Clone Wars after he had asked Darth Vader to use the Force to navigate the Chimaera.

 

[exe ex machina]

The official Russian title of Ep.9 intentionally hides the titular Skywalker's gender

It's titled «Скайуокер. Восход» ("Skywalker. Rising") instead of the literal and better-sounding «Восхождение Скайуокера».
The thing is, in Russian, the possessive forms of feminine foreign surnames don't have a flexional ending, while masculine usually end with an additional «a».

The official title intentionally avoids the possessive form splitting the title into two one-word sentences. I have no other explanation for such an awful localization choice — it sounds exactly as stupid as you imagine.

 

[exe ex machina]

 

[Janus]

Abrams specifically said that this movie would be about “the sins of the father”.

What father is he talking about? Vader. After all, the entire Skywalker saga is meant to be about Anakin.

The verse says “The sins of the father shall be visited upon the sons.”

Who is the son? Ben Solo.

What sin did Anakin commit? Betraying Palpatine. And what better way to make Anakin pay for his sins than firstly making Ben turn to the dark side before letting him know that he was a fool, and then killing him and ending the Skywalker line forever?

The “thousand generations” that Luke talks about are that of his family. Yoda says that the Force runs strong in his family...hence why Anakin, Luke and Leia are powerful Force users.

What about Shmi?

Who knows? Maybe she cut herself off from the Force and hid Luke on Tattooine. Maybe someone severed her connection. The Force specifically chose Shmi in retaliation for Plagueis’ attempt to create life, and that reason was her lineage being a family of strong Force users.

It would be interesting if we found out that the Skywalker family were strong Force sensitives for a very long time whereas Rey is literally a bastard child created by the dark side and her parents literally were Plagueis and Sidious.

Like, what if Kylo’s helmet was being remade for Rey, and the bad guy moving forward is actually a bad girl? It would be the greatest twist, because it would basically give you the feelings that you were meant to get from Anakin’s fall to the dark side without the expectation of it. The general populace wouldn’t see it coming.

Would people buy into a female version of Darth Vader?

 

[exe ex machina]

Would people buy into a female version of Darth Vader?

Disney and the Democratic Hollywood SJWists are not going to let that happen.

 

[JackOutback]

the most popular theory of the title is as explained in this video. which is that "skywalker" is a new order, to replace the jedi.

but imo, the skywalker rising is luke, an ascension.

I thought from the beginning that it represented an ideal, not a person. I don’t like the idea of the next Jedi order literally being called Skywalkers or the Force somehow being renamed Skywalker but the idea that the legend of Skywalker inspires the next generation is good.

 

[JackOutback]

So Luke chucked the towel in then? So what was the point of the fight? The fight where he did use the force to pull his weapon to him.


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Luke didn’t really want to fight at all, he was fine playing around, but once the lightsaber came out, it was life and death and he didn’t want to kill Luke. His battle was with himself, not Rey.