Preview Rnd 6 - Carlton v Hawthorn Sunday April 28th 3.20PM @ UTAS - Team Post #1331

[Soapy V]

People are acting as though our talls are useless when the ball hits the ground. Harry and Jack provide great pressure and McGovern is no slouch either.
Don't understand all the negativity.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

Hope to see

B: Dale Thomas, Liam Jones, Caleb Marchbank
HB: Nic Newman, Jacob Weitering, Lachie Plowman

FOLL: Matthew Kreuzer, Sam Petrevski-Seton, Paddy Dow
C: Charlie Curnow, Patrick Cripps, Sam Walsh

HF: Zac Fisher, Levi Casboult, Ed Curnow
F: Marc Murphy, Harry McKay, Mitch McGovern


I/C: Kade Simpson, Jack Silvagni, Lochie O’Brien, Michael Gibbons

Good lord, what a centreline!!! And with an average age of 21yo!!!

Would put the fear in any opposition coach....

 

[JustaBattler]

Get over Hawthorn this week and the lid come ooooooooff.

 

[Juddernaut08]

Perhaps we will see Jack play pure midfield minutes? I think he is up to it and is more than handy around stoppages.

Also, is there a reason we can't just let Charlie off his leash in a Kouta / Richo wing type role - we talk about it but it's never REALLY happened yet. He clock's up an elite amount of Km's in a game and it may even ease the pressure on him to be that goal kicking focal point.

What's worth more? A potentially 50 goal stay at home forward in an otherwise stacked forwardline? Or a 20 goal 25 possession roaming winger (who may also help Cripps in protecting some of the smaller guys).

An opposition coaches nightmare too.

Charlie has not shown anything to date to suggest he can play as an inside mid to protect the kids. I personally don't believe he has the instincts for it. Then again, neither did Richo!

I can see him becoming an incredible winger, giving us an impossible matchup ala N.Riewoldt and Richo back in their day. The bigs can't run with him, the smalls can't stop him from marking it.

The point remains that we still don't need Casboult though.

 

[Dooky]

B: Dale Thomas / Harrison Macreadie , Liam Jones, Caleb Marchbank
HB: Nic Newman / Sam Docherty , Jacob Weitering, Lachie Plowman / Tom Williamson

FOLL: Matthew Kreuzer / Tom De Koning , Sam Petrevski-Seton, Paddy Dow
C: Charlie Curnow / Will Setterfield , Patrick Cripps, Sam Walsh

HF: Zac Fisher / Alex Fasolo, Levi Casboult, Ed Curnow / David Cunningham
F: Marc Murphy / Jarrod Pickett , Harry McKay, Mitch McGovern


I/C: Kade Simpson, Jack Silvagni / Darcy Lang, Lochie O’Brien / Liam Stocker , Michael Gibbons / Matthew Kennedy


Oh boy wowee serious depth! Imagine a full list!

 

[Soapy V]

Good lord, what a centreline!!! And with an average age of 21yo!!!

Would put the fear in any opposition coach....

I'd just love to see Charlie work with Cripps for a while in the middle.

Could easily be Kouta Mk II. Special player

 

[norway blue]

I can’t wait until Sunday to test us against the hawks .


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[Soapy V]

B: Dale Thomas / Harrison Macreadie , Liam Jones, Caleb Marchbank
HB: Nic Newman / Sam Docherty , Jacob Weitering, Lachie Plowman / Tom Williamson

FOLL: Matthew Kreuzer / Tom De Koning , Sam Petrevski-Seton, Paddy Dow
C: Charlie Curnow / Will Setterfield , Patrick Cripps, Sam Walsh

HF: Zac Fisher / Alex Fasolo, Levi Casboult, Ed Curnow / David Cunningham
F: Marc Murphy / Jarrod Pickett , Harry McKay, Mitch McGovern


I/C: Kade Simpson, Jack Silvagni / Darcy Lang, Lochie O’Brien / Liam Stocker , Michael Gibbons / Matthew Kennedy


Oh boy wowee serious depth! Imagine a full list!

Welcome to the bright side. Exciting times ahead

 

[Dooky]

I can’t wait until Sunday to test us against the hawks .


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It really feels like that with each game right now doesn't it?
Certainly beats being a shit lousy team

 

[Jeffy38!]

It's gonna be interesting to see what Bolt's does with that many talls.

 

[Healer]

B: Dale Thomas / Harrison Macreadie , Liam Jones, Caleb Marchbank
HB: Nic Newman / Sam Docherty , Jacob Weitering, Lachie Plowman / Tom Williamson

FOLL: Matthew Kreuzer / Tom De Koning , Sam Petrevski-Seton, Paddy Dow
C: Charlie Curnow / Will Setterfield , Patrick Cripps, Sam Walsh

HF: Zac Fisher / Alex Fasolo, Levi Casboult, Ed Curnow / David Cunningham
F: Marc Murphy / Jarrod Pickett , Harry McKay, Mitch McGovern


I/C: Kade Simpson, Jack Silvagni / Darcy Lang, Lochie O’Brien / Liam Stocker , Michael Gibbons / Matthew Kennedy


Oh boy wowee serious depth! Imagine a full list!

And Still wouldn't rule out Kerr, Pickett, Schumaker, Le Bois as possibles

 

[PrendersBigEngine]

The whole Charlie v Polson debate should not be one. Line them up in the school yard and i know who we all pick. Who would Clarko and Hawks MC be more concerned about?

 

[Dadda Dave]

We playing North next week? Cunnington won’t be playing

And Higgins has the shits..

 

[JohnnyFontane90]

Arguably 5 talls with JSOS who is actually 194cm...McGov is not as tall but is more known for his aerial prowess than his ground level work.

Yeah, hasn't worked once the numerous times we've tried this structure over the last few years...but we were just a bad team anyway so not sure how much the talls had to do with it.

Still don't like it, i can't see how it's a winning strategy in the long term, even if we do somehow get up this game.

Thing is it puts a lot of strain on the mids...less rotations for a start, eg not having someone like Cunners rotating forward/mid.
Get an injury to a midfielder and we're stuffed.

If the ball gets rebounded out of our F50 at ease due to the lack of forward pressure, our mids will have to work extra hard to cover defensively.

5 tall forwards is certainly too many.

with this line up think the plan needs to be charlie pushing right up to the wing and jsos floating around half forward and pinch hitting in the middle. if you consider both of them as midfielders it leaves 3 talls inside 50. this line up will work only as well as charlie and jsos' ability to run hard and receive the ball 60-80m from goal and deliver it to the talls. if they can't link up then our ball movement will stagnate and it will be round 3 all over again. but i think they both have the skillset and the conditioning now in their 4th year to be able to pull this off.

 

[Curnivore]

Small forwards are the last piece of the puzzle

Still apart of the puzzle, thats my point. We can leave a best 22 alone when we win more than we lose.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Charlie has not shown anything to date to suggest he can play as an inside mid to protect the kids. I personally don't believe he has the instincts for it. Then again, neither did Richo!

I can see him becoming an incredible winger, giving us an impossible matchup ala N.Riewoldt and Richo back in their day. The bigs can't run with him, the smalls can't stop him from marking it.

The point remains that we still don't need Casboult though.

I've personally watched Charlie go through the middle at trainings/matchsim/praccy games and around the ground stoppages in games. 100% has the smarts and body work to be a tough match up in there. Most of the times I've seen him he is generally very stagnant, doesn't run through stoppages or anything, but he uses his strength to get to the ball, he does get a fair bit of the pill and is a really fantastic handballer in congestion. Just have to remember that If he actually trained as a mid he would improve in all aspects, and he may hunt the ball more than normal where Cripps hunts and the others work around him.

Personally agree with you that playing on the wing would be better, but theres been many statements around him from the club and media that all point towards him moving into the midfield eventually, he had success in juniors prior to his final year due to injury there, and when he's been in there during games he's always looked comfortable. If it doesn't work out they can just move him back forward.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/02/21/blues-to-unleash-charlie-curnow-in-midfield-throughout-2019/
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/an...d/news-story/36b31faf7a2f9c2cf30fc479b049645a
https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/2015/08/25/the-curious-case-of-charlie-Curnow/

 

[JustaBattler]

In my mind assessing the chances of a win against Box Hill Seniors = the team's weak links are all in defence. Polson v Charlie V Cuningham isn't as important in determining the chances for a win as the job Thomas/Simpson and Newman have got.

Bolton want rotations through the midfield HFF and bench McGovern has been used in defence on occasion during games - makes sense to have Charlie on one wing and Walsh on another because of their running power - LoB on Scully would be interesting test of LoB's running power. Gibbons played midfield minutes last week to good effect and SoJ is developing into a genuine utility player.

I think match-ups will change a fair but during course of game.

 

[Curnivore]

I tell you what I’ll be surprised if someone doesn’t punch Rozee in the head soon, cocky mouthy little shit isn’t he.

Absolutely, with we had one like him. Love a good mouthy little terrier who keeps his bones.

 

[KnaveyBlue]

This is a very tall team for an outdoor game in a location prone to inclement weather.

But here we gooooooooooo!

 

[cisco82]

Haha. My gosh you bunch have lost it.

Bringing Charlie into a team that's high in confidence after it's first win is a pretty fantastic luxury to have.
Polson was imo our only passenger last week so it had to be him. We'll shuffle the decks and make it work.


If Cripps makes em piss and feeds the machine then we'll have a win ..

 

[Kreuz Control]

A virtually unheard assessment, and important.

The no runners ruling kills less experienced sides who don't have the depth of knowledge to adapt on the run.

Through the pre season and season to date there have been two or three times where the opposition came out either at the start or after a break with an approach we did not handle well. And we got blown away until the next time the coaches got into the players' ears.

Raised something similar a little while back, for sure hurts younger teams or teams that haven't played lot together.

 

[GoingFor17]

Hope to see

B: Dale Thomas, Liam Jones, Caleb Marchbank
HB: Nic Newman, Jacob Weitering, Lachie Plowman

FOLL: Matthew Kreuzer, Sam Petrevski-Seton, Paddy Dow
C: Charlie Curnow, Patrick Cripps, Sam Walsh

HF: Zac Fisher, Levi Casboult, Ed Curnow
F: Marc Murphy, Harry McKay, Mitch McGovern


I/C: Kade Simpson, Jack Silvagni, Lochie O’Brien, Michael Gibbons


That's a very good looking side

Blues by 22 points

That's as close to our Best 22 as we've been for a long, long time.

 

[Iamcarlton]

Perhaps we will see Jack play pure midfield minutes? I think he is up to it and is more than handy around stoppages.

Also, is there a reason we can't just let Charlie off his leash in a Kouta / Richo wing type role - we talk about it but it's never REALLY happened yet. He clock's up an elite amount of Km's in a game and it may even ease the pressure on him to be that goal kicking focal point.

What's worth more? A potentially 50 goal stay at home forward in an otherwise stacked forwardline? Or a 20 goal 25 possession roaming winger (who may also help Cripps in protecting some of the smaller guys).

An opposition coaches nightmare too.

I'll take the 50 goal version thanks but ain't going to happen with the setup we now have with Cas Gov and McKay also there .
We've actually taken our biggest goalkicking asset partly out of the equation by pushing him further up field .[/QUOTE]

 

[I bleed Blue]

When LeBois comes back all problems will be solved [emoji6]

I know you've had high hope on this guy but it's time to let it go.

Bloke has not shown anything to suggest he could play at AFL level.

He is always injured for starters. Can't get on the park.

But when he is on the park he has done nothing.

2017 and 2018 he played a combined 20 games.

During those 20 games he kicked 7 goals.

He was named in the best 0 times.

He averaged about 5 disposals per game.

Apparently was fit for preseason and got destroyed in all the time trials.

There is nothing there to suggest he could ever make the leap to AFL. He struggles to get a kick in the VFL.

 

[Robert Heatley]

Get over Hawthorn this week and the lid come ooooooooff.

We have a lid? I’m already telling people last Sunday was day 1 of the Dynasty!