List Mgmt. 2021 Draft picks: 4/33/75

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[hey shorty]

Better kick by a fair margin is one area that stands out as a point of difference between the pair.

A lot of casual observers wouldn't have seen much of Roberts too due to school commitments.

I like him though, I'd be happy to have him on the list but not with our first pick.

 

[Mutineer]

A lot of casual observers wouldn't have seen much of Roberts too due to school commitments.

I like him though, I'd be happy to have him on the list but not with our first pick.

Roberts was going at 90% DE in the U18's this season.

 

[Murray2503]

Hawks did us a huge favour with that draw. Pick 1 or 2 definitely still on the cards. We are currently the worst team going around based on form so I don't expect us to win another game this year.

 

[DaKids]

A lot of casual observers wouldn't have seen much of Roberts too due to school commitments.

I like him though, I'd be happy to have him on the list but not with our first pick.

He won’t be there for our 2nd pick that’s for sure, unless we get a 2nd too 10 pick. Agreed it’s a big call. Mutineer hits the nail on the head with the kicking and I’d also add decision making to that.

Jason absolutely is a great prospect and will be selected higher, but I’ve a feeling it’s the eye catching stuff rather than the nuts and bolts. I saw some vision recently that was a worry. Looked magnificent stepping 2 players but then ignored the right easy option to hand pass to 1 of either 2 free players - deciding to bomb long to a contest which was cleared easily. Just a little thing.

Roberts isn’t a human highlight reel but he just does everything well. Versatile- inside/outside, covers both ends of the field, damaging kick, good overhead , makes great decisions. I just don’t see many weakness’s to his game. My only criticism of his game that I noticed in a school match was that he hasn’t quite worked out how to shake a good tag.

Big call ? Yes for sure but happy to put it out there and be belted later on ha ha

 

[UcantCme]

Hawks did us a huge favour with that draw. Pick 1 or 2 definitely still on the cards. We are currently the worst team going around based on form so I don't expect us to win another game this year.

Form only lasts a week

Teams can go from good to shite, or the other way in space of a week

Today's game, and our games against North and Hawthorn will determine where we finish on the ladder

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[hey shorty]

He won’t be there for our 2nd pick that’s for sure, unless we get a 2nd too 10 pick. Agreed it’s a big call. Mutineer hits the nail on the head with the kicking and I’d also add decision making to that.

Jason absolutely is a great prospect and will be selected higher, but I’ve a feeling it’s the eye catching stuff rather than the nuts and bolts. I saw some vision recently that was a worry. Looked magnificent stepping 2 players but then ignored the right easy option to hand pass to 1 of either 2 free players - deciding to bomb long to a contest which was cleared easily. Just a little thing.

Roberts isn’t a human highlight reel but he just does everything well. Versatile- inside/outside, covers both ends of the field, damaging kick, good overhead , makes great decisions. I just don’t see many weakness’s to his game. My only criticism of his game that I noticed in a school match was that he hasn’t quite worked out how to shake a good tag.

Big call ? Yes for sure but happy to put it out there and be belted later on ha ha

Yep that's probably a fair assessment on what I've seen of Matty too.

A top 3 pick is a big reach for him mind you, if we win a couple more games and finish 13th or so that might be the spot

 

[Jcpdragonx]

North looking good, young guys doing well as well for them unlike us.

Need Horne so bad

 

[hey shorty]

North looking good, young guys doing well as well for them unlike us.

Need Horne so bad

Our young guys aren't the issue, but they're also a year or 2 more experienced

 

[aabp1978]

We are so getting pick 1 - what a club hey? Two wooden spoons in a row coming up

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Hawks did us a huge favour with that draw. Pick 1 or 2 definitely still on the cards. We are currently the worst team going around based on form so I don't expect us to win another game this year.

This is what worries me. Improvement next year will not come easily. An early draft pick helps but doesn't guarantee success. I dont trust our recruiters.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

We are so getting pick 1 - what a club hey? Two wooden spoons in a row coming up

We are becoming the new Melbourne (pre Roos) or GC

 

[hey shorty]

We are becoming the new Melbourne (pre 2015) or GC

Long way to go to reach those levels.

 

[Mutineer]

Have to admit I'm getting a laugh from Knightmare's draft board this season with the Collingwood supporters indeed Knighta himself continually marking down Horne's game, of course that has nothing to do with their boy Nick Daicos in the Pick 1 discussion.

What really gets me is when someone questions his assessment he has double downed more and more pointing out his perceived weaknesses in Horne's game so much so you would think Horne will be lucky to go top 5 or 6 let alone pick 1.

 

[thebirdman 24]

Hawks did us a huge favour with that draw. Pick 1 or 2 definitely still on the cards. We are currently the worst team going around based on form so I don't expect us to win another game this year.

Not only are we the worst performing team, our talent stocks are still fairly depleted. Our list still needs a few turnovers before we are close to finals.

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[hey shorty]

Not only are we the worst performing team, our talent stocks are still fairly depleted. Our list still needs a few turnovers before we are close to finals.

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I dunno, maybe we need to play our midfield draftees in the midfield for more than 5 minutes before we make the judgement.

 

[hey shorty]

Have to admit I'm getting a laugh from Knightmare's draft board this season with the Collingwood supporters indeed Knighta himself continually marking down Horne's game, of course that has nothing to do with their boy Nick Daicos in the Pick 1 discussion.

What really gets me is when someone questions his assessment he has double downed more and more pointing out his perceived weaknesses in Horne's game so much so you would think Horne will be lucky to go top 5 or 6 let alone pick 1.

That's him to a tee.

Yet they'll still cry foul when if we select Daicos with pick 1 in the draft and force them to match.

 

[Crow till I die]

He won’t be there for our 2nd pick that’s for sure, unless we get a 2nd too 10 pick. Agreed it’s a big call. Mutineer hits the nail on the head with the kicking and I’d also add decision making to that.

Jason absolutely is a great prospect and will be selected higher, but I’ve a feeling it’s the eye catching stuff rather than the nuts and bolts. I saw some vision recently that was a worry. Looked magnificent stepping 2 players but then ignored the right easy option to hand pass to 1 of either 2 free players - deciding to bomb long to a contest which was cleared easily. Just a little thing.

Roberts isn’t a human highlight reel but he just does everything well. Versatile- inside/outside, covers both ends of the field, damaging kick, good overhead , makes great decisions. I just don’t see many weakness’s to his game. My only criticism of his game that I noticed in a school match was that he hasn’t quite worked out how to shake a good tag.

Big call ? Yes for sure but happy to put it out there and be belted later on ha ha

Is roberts like cotchin..less flashy than others but (apart from being an umpires pet) just does footy well

 

[thebirdman 24]

I dunno, maybe we need to play our midfield draftees in the midfield for more than 5 minutes before we make the judgement.

You think we have our next finals pushing team on our list?

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[hey shorty]

You think we have our next finals pushing team on our list?

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I reckon we've got significant building blocks there yep.

Need to find another KPF, hopefully they persist with McAsey rather than drafting another. Need 2 more mids and a small forward, small defender and maybe another KPD.

Can all happen pretty quick.

 

[Mutineer]

Is roberts like cotchin..less flashy than others but (apart from being an umpires pet) just does footy well

Cotchin just wishes he had that kind of penetration on his kick

 

[hey shorty]

Cotchin just wishes he had that kind of penetration on his kick

And Matty isn't a sniper.

 

[DaKids]

Cotchin just wishes he had that kind of penetration on his kick

Ha ha - love this

 

[jackster83]

I reckon we've got significant building blocks there yep.

Need to find another KPF, hopefully they persist with McAsey rather than drafting another. Need 2 more mids and a small forward, small defender and maybe another KPD.

Can all happen pretty quick.

The lack of midfield talent is the main problem, as well as our refusal to play them there. We need two top five pick quality mids in the next 1-2 drafts.

 

[thebirdman 24]

I reckon we've got significant building blocks there yep.

Need to find another KPF, hopefully they persist with McAsey rather than drafting another. Need 2 more mids and a small forward, small defender and maybe another KPD.

Can all happen pretty quick.

I admire the optimism but I think we are a while off from truly competing. We aren't putting the final puzzle pieces together yet as you suggest above, we still need need major turnover. Not every promising youngster will make it and we will miss plenty more picks so we just need to keep drafting talent and weeding out the players who won't make it. Priority picks would speed this up a bit.

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[Chris25]

Have to admit I'm getting a laugh from Knightmare's draft board this season with the Collingwood supporters indeed Knighta himself continually marking down Horne's game, of course that has nothing to do with their boy Nick Daicos in the Pick 1 discussion.

What really gets me is when someone questions his assessment he has double downed more and more pointing out his perceived weaknesses in Horne's game so much so you would think Horne will be lucky to go top 5 or 6 let alone pick 1.

At least the obsessed Collingwood fan actually went to the trouble of watching some Horne games to critique. Maybe KM could give that a shot too.

Who’d have thought an 18 year old in the team to apply defensive pressure across half forward wouldn’t be leading the team for clearances.