Strategy Jason Horne-Francis: North trade him to Port for massive unders

[footy4ever]

he wont leave ken, hes like a dad to him

ken will be gone in 2024 and then he will leave - no flag

if port were smart they do a straight swap butters for horne and tell north to cut the crap - very fair for all parties

but personally i hope they make port cough up 8, 2023F1, butters

Yeah but Butters to North for JHF is fanciful. It will never happen.

 

[Redline]

Can't see Butters leaving. Port will get it done eith picks.

 

[Crow till I die]

Yeah but Butters to North for JHF is fanciful. It will never happen.

North should put a 7 year 6 million dollar deal infront of butters .see how loyal he is then

 

[CH Jazz]

North should put a 7 year 6 million dollar deal infront of butters .see how loyal he is then

Probably just as loyal as the other 10 blokes that north have dangled that carrot infront of the past 5 years. Nobody decent is going to that graveyard of a club.

 

[footy4ever]

... Nobody decent is going to that graveyard of a club.

And just when it looked like there was a light at the end of the tunnel with Clarkson’s appointment, and it still might be when we learn the facts of the current mess, North’s dilemma just got worse.

 

[CH Jazz]

And just when it looked like there was a light at the end of the tunnel with Clarkson’s appointment, and it still might be when we learn the facts of the current mess, North’s dilemma just got worse.

I reckon there is no chance Clarko coaches.

I wouldn’t be at all surprised is Zurhar asks for a trade, only signed a few weeks ago due to the Clarko appointment. The tier 2 spuds they are targeting to trade in will probably land elsewhere with the uncertainty.

No coach, no assistant coaches, no CEO, no recruiting department, 15k is a decent home crowd. Seriously, has a club ever been this broken since Fitzroy??

 

[latinoheat]

Can't see Butters leaving. Port will get it done eith picks.

Question becomes on what day north Melbourne fold.

 

[Bay62]

I reckon there is no chance Clarko coaches.

I wouldn’t be at all surprised is Zurhar asks for a trade, only signed a few weeks ago due to the Clarko appointment. The tier 2 spuds they are targeting to trade in will probably land elsewhere with the uncertainty.

No coach, no assistant coaches, no CEO, no recruiting department, 15k is a decent home crowd. Seriously, has a club ever been this broken since Fitzroy??

Nope

They’ve done well to pay off the debt but getting Clarkson was the key to their future - players, sponsors, attendances, merch, game plan, possibly even running games

All up in the air now. If he goes then it’s either Kenny or Yze..?!

 

[Sanders]

Nope

They’ve done well to pay off the debt but getting Clarkson was the key to their future - players, sponsors, attendances, merch, game plan, possibly even running games

All up in the air now. If he goes then it’s either Kenny or Yze..?!

On the flip side the marriage between JHF and North was always looking a bit rough.

This is a chance to get a decent retool boost.

They’ll be ok.

 

[eathb]

Probably just as loyal as the other 10 blokes that north have dangled that carrot infront of the past 5 years. Nobody decent is going to that graveyard of a club.

It worked for Jared Polec

 

[rocket18]

Wants to win a flag? Ha ha ha.

You had the chance both in 2020 and 2021 and s**t the bed. It ain’t going to happen now.

Well perhaps better odds with Power Reserves.

He doesn't want to miss out on the upcoming 3 peat.

Their 3 flags in 5 years is down to 3 in 3 years now, these guys go through intense brainwashing sessions with the Powah spin doctors.

 

[moogerfooger]

It worked for Jared Polec

Coincidentally the last top five draftee that came home and chose Port ahead of us, much to this board's hand wringing at the time.

 

[moogerfooger]

This isn’t quite true but has gained traction with time.

Yes there were 3 first rounders offered, but they were sending back what turned out as pick 19 of this year. So, 1 and 19 for our 6 last year, 5(now 6) this year, and pick 14 of this year.

Two pick 6’s and pick 14 for JHF and pick 19.

To summarise, based on where all the picks did or will land (I believe). Deal looked like:

Roos would have given up:

• JHF
• CCJ (NM traded for him with Adelaide’s 2022 pick 19)

Crows would have given up:

• Rachele
• Dawson (got him with our pick 14 from this year)
• Rankine (assuming we use our first pick on him)

Obviously not accurate as we may have made Dawson & Rankine work either way, you’d hope, but interesting.

I wouldn't give up Rachele, Dawson and Rankine for Clayton Oliver, let alone JHF.

 

[AFC979810]

How many times did geelong balls up the prelim in recent times? This year they’ve just won a flag comfortably, if you make the finals anything can happen.

Spot on. Build a list that can make the top 4. Hope things go your way. Rinse and Repeat.

 

[relapse]

Exactly, talk of Butters and Rozee is just nonsense.

It could be the brackets scenario all over again.

If we didn't go after Gibbs then Carlton most probably wouldn't have gone chasing McGovern like they did.

By North Melbourne forcing the issue with Butters by offering him a godfather type deal to get him to agree to a trade to them could make things interesting. If he's stuck on 350k for the next 2 seasons and North is offering $800k+ it definitely will be a massive carrot that will be hard to turn down.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

On the flip side the marriage between JHF and North was always looking a bit rough.

This is a chance to get a decent retool boost.

They’ll be ok.

You can see the hand being held out already for additional & stronger compo picks next year

 

[LeftyLuke]

Can't see Butters leaving. Port will get it done eith picks.

Port doesn't have the picks to get it done. I hope north holds Horne to his contract and see how port responds. Powaa will come crawling to North late offering up decent players.

 

[Sanders]

not a done deal just yet

‘Never say never’: Port open to trading young stars amid Roos’ warning for ‘unsettled’ No.1 pick

‘Never say never’: Port open to trading young stars amid Roos’ warning for ‘unsettled’ No.1 pick

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[LeftyLuke]

So Rioli, Ratogalea and JHF. Don't see how they get that done with out giving up multiple players, and not fringe players but some of the real talent.

Ratogalea is staying at Geelong, he was never leaving. To date powaa have been rejected by Dunkley, Graham, Ratogalea, Pickett.

 

[FullyBigKPro]

That's basically it - Rankine, Rachele and Dawson or JHF.... I really hope the PAPs sell the farm for him.

 

[CROW in BALI]

SEN this morning : “Graham camp not happy with Pear”

 

[FullyBigKPro]

Port doesn't have the picks to get it done. I hope north holds Horne to his contract and see how port responds. Powaa will come crawling to North late offering up decent players.

100% - Pick 8 and Next years pick (~10ish) isn't getting it done. It has to be that PLUS a player of Butters ilk included to even get North to properly get in the room with them.

 

[relapse]

Port doesn't have the picks to get it done. I hope north holds Horne to his contract and see how port responds. Powaa will come crawling to North late offering up decent players.

Port will get a deal done one way or another.

History suggests that they're not unwilling to pay overs to get a trade done

I actually think it if it reaches an impasse that Port may potentially look at the option of trading Butters in order to make it happen.

 

[Amacca 23]

Port will get a deal done one way or another.

History suggests that they're not unwilling to pay overs to get a trade done

I actually think it if it reaches an impasse that Port may potentially look at the option of trading Butters in order to make it happen.

We can only hope , lose butters rips the fabric of the club to shreds and any player coming out of contract is going to look at his and say i want more

 

[LeftyLuke]

We can only hope , lose butters rips the fabric of the club to shreds and any player coming out of contract is going to look at his and say i want more

Powaa go on about their culture but they will turn very on any player to get a deal done.