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Game Day Match Discussion - RD 17 vs. Carlton. Fri 04/07 @ 7:20pm (MCG)

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Dean must play against Carlton.He simply must. I know many here have claimed that he was a liability against WC. But is that necessarily the case? Our defence still functioned well. We don't yet fully understand what his role will be in our defence.
Frampers and Moore are our two key talls. We very much need another who can be called up in September if one of these two is unavailable.
It would be crazy in this situation to give Dean a game and then throw him back in the reserves.
I believe that he will definitely retain his spot for Friday night.
We need to see how he can intermesh his role into the entire defensive structure, and give him a chance to prove that he can.
Markov will be omitted and Bruzza will return, with the sub to be decided.
 

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I see now that Charlie is injured. I still think it couldn’t hurt to try him back. We have Steene, Cox, Howes and Mason who can all play tall forward. Anyway this is for a different thread not this one.
If the Club want to give him a chance to prove himself ( ie in his most familiar role) then he’ll play ahead of Mason.
 
Dean must play against Carlton.He simply must. I know many here have claimed that he was a liability against WC. But is that necessarily the case? Our defence still functioned well. We don't yet fully understand what his role will be in our defence.
Frampers and Moore are our two key talls. We very much need another who can be called up in September if one of these two is unavailable.
It would be crazy in this situation to give Dean a game and then throw him back in the reserves.
I believe that he will definitely retain his spot for Friday night.
We need to see how he can intermesh his role into the entire defensive structure, and give him a chance to prove that he can.
Markov will be omitted and Bruzza will return, with the sub to be decided.
I agree with your logic - we don’t want to be bringing Dean in September without having really understood whether he’s upto the job or his best opponent profile.
But I’m not sure how he fits in with Bruzzy returning to defence.
 
Except for…Jack Crisp. The miracle man. Has three little kids and apparently never catches anything. His wife said somewhere recently that she and the three girls were sick for about two weeks. But not Jack.
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I agree with your logic - we don’t want to be bringing Dean in September without having really understood whether he’s upto the job or his best opponent profile.
But I’m not sure how he fits in with Bruzzy returning to defence.
Don't Carlton have two tall forwards? Moore takes Curnow, and Dean takes the other ( to the extent that the phrase "taking an opponent "individually makes sense in our defensive system which functions as a unified whole rather than separate individuals taking responsibility for individual opponents.
 
If training is anything to go by, bringing in Mitchell will see Long pushed out into the forward line. Or at least in rotation. As its clear we cant play all of Mitchell. Long and Pendles in the one centre bounce.
Gives us a chance to see what Mitchell can offer and will increase the forward pressure and hunting which has looked lacking whilst Schultz and McCreery are out.
 
Gives us a chance to see what Mitchell can offer and will increase the forward pressure and hunting which has looked lacking whilst Schultz and McCreery are out.
Who goes out for Mitchell?
Given that Roan is definitely playing, it can only be Sullivan.
How will Mitchell contribute to forward pressure?
Only if Long plays forward.
But I don't want Long playing forward. He is too good as an inside midfield beast.
 

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Dean must play against Carlton.He simply must. I know many here have claimed that he was a liability against WC. But is that necessarily the case? Our defence still functioned well. We don't yet fully understand what his role will be in our defence.
Frampers and Moore are our two key talls. We very much need another who can be called up in September if one of these two is unavailable.
It would be crazy in this situation to give Dean a game and then throw him back in the reserves.
I believe that he will definitely retain his spot for Friday night.
We need to see how he can intermesh his role into the entire defensive structure, and give him a chance to prove that he can.
Markov will be omitted and Bruzza will return, with the sub to be decided.
There's this bloke called Jeremy Howe who is in sensational form and was fantastic when Moore was out.

Option 1: All 3 talls
Option 2 - two of them and Bruzzy

(option 2 might end up being option 1)

We need two out to call on Dean.
 
Who goes out for Mitchell?
Given that Roan is definitely playing, it can only be Sullivan.
How will Mitchell contribute to forward pressure?
Only if Long plays forward.
But I don't want Long playing forward. He is too good as an inside midfield beast.
I think Sullivan. I noticed he didn't really participate in match him.

I dont like Long playing forward, I think it. defeats the purpose of his strengths around the contest, but I get its an experimental thing to see what Mitchell can do for a week.
 
Don't Carlton have two tall forwards? Moore takes Curnow, and Dean takes the other ( to the extent that the phrase "taking an opponent "individually makes sense in our defensive system which functions as a unified whole rather than separate individuals taking responsibility for individual opponents.
McKay is out injured.
 
Who goes out for Mitchell?
Given that Roan is definitely playing, it can only be Sullivan.
How will Mitchell contribute to forward pressure?
Only if Long plays forward.
But I don't want Long playing forward. He is too good as an inside midfield beast.
Sidey is sick. He might be in doubt.

But if Long plays forward, you'd think it would be in the role Sully has been playing.
 

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There's this bloke called Jeremy Howe who is in sensational form and was fantastic when Moore was out.

Option 1: All 3 talls
Option 2 - two of them and Bruzzy

(option 2 might end up being option 1)

We need two out to call on Dean.
But Frampers plays in the same defence as Bruzzy, Moore and Jem Howe. We will especially need the extra tall when playing teams such as Geelong.

What i am saying is that Dean needs to be tested as a possible replacement should we have to call on him. This means that he needs to get practice,and we need to get data to assess what our options genuinely are.
 
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