List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  Jack Petruccelle

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  83kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.2

  2star

  K

  6.2

  2star

  HB

  3.0

  3star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  6.7

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.7

  2star

  M

  1.7

  2star

  T

  1.3

  2star

  G

  0.7

  4star

  D

  7.8

  2star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  3.2

  3star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  1.6

  4star

  G

  0.6

  3star

  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[eaglevision]

Why do we want to make our game more like soccer? Yuck.
Poor rules and interpretations doesn't warrant making the rules worse again.

Out of interest why wouldn’t you want to encourage the ball moving into the corridor rather than the wings if there’s no better option?

 

[navi_]

Do NOT want Starcevich

 

[UseR2006]

Saints only have 8 and 44 for a draft hand so if they want Ryan they'll probably want something back in picks.
Can't see them doing a straight player swap.

 

[eaglevision]

Saints only have 8 and 44 for a draft hand so if they want Ryan they'll probably want something back in picks.
Can't see them doing a straight player swap.

They’ve shot down Ryan for Darcy Wilson which is probably fair enough.

 

[UseR2006]

something like:

Eagles Out: 19, 32, Ryan
Eagles in: 8, 44, F2?

Would leave us with 1,2,8,14(hawks),44, 50. 4x First rounders, couple of late picks for NGA kids.
Saints still get two bites at the draft with adding Ryan in?

 

[plays tall 1]

The lasso "last touch" rule is a horrible horrible rule.
I wish nothing but ill will on those proposing it for the AFL.

Will be frightening for teams defending deep in their defensive 50 whenever the ball is close to the boundary. The attacking team will probably be happier to roll the dice and play close to the boundary.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Out of interest why wouldn’t you want to encourage the ball moving into the corridor rather than the wings if there’s no better option?

I think switching is a legitimately good tactical option which would be discouraged in this scenario. This would further discourage players from kicking to a one-on-one down the wing as if you overkicked it (or even if both players ran under the ball) it would result in a penalty. I watch the lasso adjudication at the Girls Talent League level and it drives me nuts. A perfectly good kick may have the same results as kicking sideways out-on-the-full, and this may have nothing to do with the kickers ability. We ought to be encouraging kicking to one-on-ones as I think that this is far better as a spectacle.

I otherwise think that ball-in contests on the wing are quite unique and still ought to be encouraged as it demonstrates how good a midfield/midfielder is if they are able to win these more than they lose and encourages a team to think strategically about how they attack scoring opportunities for a congested position. The downside is back-to-back stoppages which have certainly crept in and are not visually appealing. 15-20 seconds and the ball bobbles only for a player to be brought down in a tackle for another ball up. Again, teams improving their defensive abilities has stifled some of the more natural movements from stoppages.

Further, whilst I like corridor movement, I don't want it all the time. It's exhilarating but that's because it works sparingly, not on every occasion. If I wanted it all the time I would play AFL Live or something like that where that seems to be the only strategy. We want each play to be unique and not just a mirror of a previous play we've seen in the same game about ten times before (that's how I feel watching NBA).

And finally, I just loathe soccer. I don't want the sport that I love to move one iota in the direction of mimicking a sport that I hate.

 

[eaglevision]

I think switching is a legitimately good tactical option which would be discouraged in this scenario. This would further discourage players from kicking to a one-on-one down the wing as if you overkicked it (or even if both players ran under the ball) it would result in a penalty. I watch the lasso adjudication at the Girls Talent League level and it drives me nuts. A perfectly good kick may have the same results as kicking sideways out-on-the-full, and this may have nothing to do with the kickers ability. We ought to be encouraging kicking to one-on-ones as I think that this is far better as a spectacle.

I otherwise think that ball-in contests on the wing are quite unique and still ought to be encouraged as it demonstrates how good a midfield/midfielder is if they are able to win these more than they lose and encourages a team to think strategically about how they attack scoring opportunities for a congested position. The downside is back-to-back stoppages which have certainly crept in and are not visually appealing. 15-20 seconds and the ball bobbles only for a player to be brought down in a tackle for another ball up. Again, teams improving their defensive abilities has stifled some of the more natural movements from stoppages.

Further, whilst I like corridor movement, I don't want it all the time. It's exhilarating but that's because it works sparingly, not on every occasion. If I wanted it all the time I would play AFL Live or something like that where that seems to be the only strategy. We want each play to be unique and not just a mirror of a previous play we've seen in the same game about ten times before (that's how I feel watching NBA).

And finally, I just loathe soccer. I don't want the sport that I love to move one iota in the direction of mimicking a sport that I hate.

They are all fair points although with respect to the Coates girls I suspect this would look quite different at AFL level.

The SANFL have been doing it and seems to have been received well. I’m not against implementing it and seeing how it looks between the arcs.

 

[UseR2006]

Will be frightening for teams defending deep in their defensive 50 whenever the ball is close to the boundary. The attacking team will probably be happier to roll the dice and play close to the boundary.

Only applies outside the 50m arcs.
So wouldn't come into play unless between the arcs.
Still a stupid rule though.

 

[Tugga27]

I don’t think we will get fair value

Then we hold him.

 

[Goroyals22]

Because he is a WC player and given us great service AND a major part of the team for younger players ....IF we keep losing them it's like the cupboards bare.

And he has been paid well for his service . He is owed nothing

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

How many years into the future does Ryan think clubs will offer him in a contract? He has another year with us, i am sure the club would extend that by a year at the end of this year making it two years forward. He is 30 years old with a long injury history. Does he think other clubs will offer him 3 or 4 years? I doubt it.

 

[Jeremy McLovin]

Afl lets a problem build up too much and then overcorrect, what's new. If they want academies to actually exist and create good footballers, there needs to be a benefit for them or they'll only exist in theory with no actual money or effort put in. To that end, not being able to match first round bids should only be if you make finals. That way we don't have the good teams just getting better all the time, but there's still an ongoing incentive to support your academy.

 

[maverick001]

Of the linked clubs:
STK Wilson
ESS +1 for 5,7
CARL +21 + Blowies (and salary) for 9

There's not a snowflake's chance in hell Saints are giving up Wilson for Ryan. If that's our ask, they'll just pass
If we did a deal like that I'd be furious

 

[Coasters7]

The lasso "last touch" rule is a horrible horrible rule.
I wish nothing but ill will on those proposing it for the AFL.

If they thought the bottom 4 was uncompetitive this year im not sure they know what’s coming.

It’s already borderline impossible with the 666 rule but with a last touch rule, teams that can’t keep up aerobically (young sides) are going to get blown off the park very consistently. Could be some serious records broken next year.

I get they want a quicker, higher scoring game but it’s just not viable unless all 18 teams are full of superstars at the same time.

 

[Coasters7]

Out of interest why wouldn’t you want to encourage the ball moving into the corridor rather than the wings if there’s no better option?

Will be good for the big games and finals potentially but for the average game it’s going to be a disaster

 

[KERRPOW]

Sounded like Carlton didn't want him to trigger the extra year to save money and sign him to a smaller contract .

Would you want to play for a club that ****ed you around like that.

 

[Lia]

I think Lyon knows if Saints don't make finals next year he will be moved on.

I don't know about that, all year they have been talking about youth and that they are a young team etc etc

At this point in time he is popular with the Saints fans too which makes messaging easier.

 

[Donkers]

I am not a fan of the last touch rule. It works at lower levels however due to the superior aerobic capacity and running power of developed players it will be a nightmare at afl level. You will have to set up with an extra defensive sweeper at all times. The only way it really works in my opinion is if you go down to 16 on the field.

 

[Hasselhough]

Do NOT want Starcevich

Why ?
I don't think he is a midfielder but he was fantastic in defence against freo last Friday night.

As long as it is just a late pick I'm all for it . The faster we move away from duggan and cole in defence the better

 

[Hasselhough]

Would you want to play for a club that ****ed you around like that.

Mitch mcgovern was seriously over paid for many years when he moved from Adelaide on that big deal .

I feel that Carlton are in a very tight spot . Cap maxxed out and bottom 6 . They will need to shed some players to right the books .

Don't be surprised if someone like Sam Walsh who is high paid and cant get on the park is at the hawks or Geelong next season

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Then we hold him.

I think we donate him to another club as a favour to the guy

You cant ignore the boy club mentality behind the decision we will make

 

[Elite Pete]

Tim Watson has gone again.

Ryan done deal to Saints

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Tim Watson has gone again.

Ryan done deal to Saints

I’m absolutely fine with any player from our 2018 premiership not being on our list, none of them will be part of our next premiership push, I’d be very comfortable not having Cole, Cripps, Duggan or Ryan on our list.

 

[Elite Pete]

Cal on Goss show said he is hearing the same murmurings over in Melbourne regarding his deal being ‘done’. Said Vic clubs are still having a crack and he believes there is still a bit to go.