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Traded Liam Ryan [Traded with 2027 R3 to St Kilda for 2026 R2 (Stk)]

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Is this not literally just take Saints F2 and flick it straight to Brisbane for Starcevich if our assistance request gets denied? I feel like this is such an open and shut case

Seems like that’s a fairly neat solution.

Most clubs are pretty happy to help their old warriors get where they want to be.

Imagine it will be much the same if Marshall decides he wants to get to Geelong.
 
Aren't future picks universally rated as significantly lesser value than current picks?
If so, surely the trade has to be Pick 7 + F2nd for Ryan + Haw 1st.
A future 2nd just isn't a good enough offer and I'd rather we hold Ryan to his contract than trade his for a future pick that is likely to land at pick 35+.
 

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She also doesn’t squash Cmac at all 👀

Hawthorn aren't trading McKenzie unless they get Petracca first (which is unlikely)
 
Medium tall forward.

If you wanna go with Owens/Ryan/King/Marshall forward line that ball will be walked out of the forward line with enough time to place it on a fluffy pillow before leaving . You need a defensive forward in that spot and two medium forwards isn’t going to work
Is the second medium tall forward in the room with us?
 
Your post implied you see Liam Ryan as a medium tall forward. Did I read that wrong?
He is. He isn’t a small forward as much as the media pretends. He is a marking forward who creates with his kicking. He doesn’t rove the pack, he applies zero defensive pressure. He is good at what he does. But a small forward isn’t what he does
 
He is. He isn’t a small forward as much as the media pretends. He is a marking forward who creates with his kicking. He doesn’t rove the pack, he applies zero defensive pressure. He is good at what he does. But a small forward isn’t what he does
Mate. He’s 179cm short. You’ve got 42 odd blokes on your list. He’s equal 5th shortest.

He’s a small forward.
 

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Aren't future picks universally rated as significantly lesser value than current picks?
If so, surely the trade has to be Pick 7 + F2nd for Ryan + Haw 1st.
A future 2nd just isn't a good enough offer and I'd rather we hold Ryan to his contract than trade his for a future pick that is likely to land at pick 35+.
Cant see us involving our first for ryan
Top 10 picks are highly valuable and sought after.
Turning Ryan into Starcevich whilst keeping pick 2 is smart trading
 
He is. He isn’t a small forward as much as the media pretends. He is a marking forward who creates with his kicking. He doesn’t rove the pack, he applies zero defensive pressure. He is good at what he does. But a small forward isn’t what he does
He applies zero defensive pressure?
Do not want
 

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Owens is 190cm tall and pinch hits in the ruck. You implied they are vying for the same position. In no world are these two the same
Owens ain’t pinch hitting in the ruck anymore, especially with the new ruck rules coming in. Ryan plays as a 190cm forward for sure. He is a marking forward. No idea how this is a shock to anyone
 
Mate. He’s 179cm short. You’ve got 42 odd blokes on your list. He’s equal 5th shortest.

He’s a small forward.
He's 2cm taller than Higgins
Point is he plays tall, with his foot skills and marking ability.
He isnt like Kosi, or Betts, or whatever other archetype people typically think of in a sub 185cm forward.
 
Is that because eagles are kicking it over his head?
We haven't seen flying ryan for a couple of seasons
Well yes. We are kicking it on his head to take a mark still. We just suck at it

I’m shocked people think he is a small forward. Oscar Allen more of a small forward then Liam Ryan
 
Well yes. We are kicking it on his head to take a mark still. We just suck at it

I’m shocked people think he is a small forward. Oscar Allen more of a small forward then Liam Ryan
He has been referred to as a small forward his entire career.
He is a small forward who could jump
Perfect mentor for Collard who Ross has big wraps on.
He turns 29 in a couple of weeks btw
 

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