List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  Jack Petruccelle

  Age

  26

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  188cm

  Wt

  83kg

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  Fwd

  Career

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  2star

  K

  6.2

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  HB

  3.0

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  M

  3.0

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  T

  1.8

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  G

  1.0

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  D

  6.7

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  K

  4.0

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  HB

  2.7

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  M

  1.7

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  T

  1.3

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  G

  0.7

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  D

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  K

  4.6

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  HB

  3.2

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  M

  2.8

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  T

  1.6

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  G

  0.6

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  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[Hasselhough]

Have no idea how we balance our defence if Starcevich and Mcvee were to come in. It would completely lopside our list.

If the club thinks they can turn Hough and Ginbey into full time top tier midfielders I think they will be very sorely mistaken.

McVee is young but is almost like Duggan from wish imo. Starcevich is a great defender but has shown almost nothing in the midfield and is by no means quick.

Starcivich and mcvee coming in would hopefully mean duggan and cole playing wafl.

Sounds like a great idea

 

[ThePuma #9]

Are these Yeo descriptions about Sharp accurate? because Yeo is/was an athletic beast with burst and agility, not solely a contested inside mid.

More Priddis/Matt Rowell in my opinion. Extremely good in the guts, extracting the ball with a quick handball and applying presure around the contest with tackles. Not as slow as Priddis, Not as explosive as Rowell.

The 3 biggest knocks of his game were that he was

One Dimensional. - can only play inside and not effective at hitting scoreboard.
Mature body playing against kids. - has always looked bigger than kids his age.
Improvement/potential. - has he already peaked as he's been bigger, is there further improvement in him?

My rebuttals to the above would be as follows.

One dimensional --- He was criticized as not having an outside game and then proceeds to play both outside and forward during the carnival. Hit the scoreboard regularly and showed that he can play outside if required.

Mature body playing against kids. --- Stepped up and played men in the SANFL and did extremely well. Completely negate the perception he was only dominating because he was playing kids smaller than him.

Improvement/potential. - Some argue his ceiling isn't as high as others but if i had a dollar for every player who has "potential" and doesn't deliver i'd be a rich man. He has shown he can play other positions so not sure what more he can do.

Has led

S.A to the National Championship
Won the Larke Medal for best player of the tournament.
Captain of the Under 18 All Australian Team.

None of those awards mean a hell of a lot in regards to his transition to the AFL but not sure there is any more he could have done to press his case as the best inside midfielder in the draft.

West Coast in 2025 were

18th Contested Possesions
18th total Clearances
17th Centre Clearances
17th Inside 50's
17th total goals

You'd think a hard running, inside midfielder, who is a contested beast, clearance specialist and tackling machine would be a priority.

 

[Jukes]

Looking at Butler’s VFL stats from this year, there could be something in this. In particular from Round 8 when he was moved into the midfield. For the reasons I wanted Tunstil, Butler could be a low cost, 22 year old where we could do a lot worse. Watching his highlights and trying to assess his style of play, the first comparison that came to mind was that he moves like a Temu Sheezel (I mean that in a good way).

 

[Farmer Lister]

A heap by the peeps in here living in fantasyland but in all honesty, none of them will be coming.

Good players don't go to the bottom sides. That's a fact.

WC will first need to win some games next year before we can turn heads.

2027 will be when we start getting decent players coming in.

Making definitive declarative statements like that just set you up to look foolish. GAJ went to the Suns. Much smarter to say it's very hard to get good talent given the position we're in, and it's unlikely we will get big names.

Not having a go at you personally, just a little bug bear of mine. No one knows the what the future will bring with absolute certainty, and I'm an eternal optimist. You can call me delusional, but I'd rather be slightly delusional than 100% absolutely certain we aren't getting any good players in.

Accentuate the positive!

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Butler would be a great get, but we'll have to offer him well above his market rate to pry him away from the Hawks.

 

[Jootube]

He averaged 14 touches in 9 SANFL matches going at 50 something percent efficiency, his natural game was greatly impacted going up against men. Tom Gross, who is miles off the pace from a conditioning pov, and was taken in the 40s, averaged 22 touches for the shittest team in the WAFL

How's Sharp going to excel against even fitter, faster and stronger men? He doesn't have anything else to go to

This is a really good take, I wouldn't hate the Sharp pick - but we need to be realists in what he would bring next year.
If he's going at <50% de and 14 touches, he probably isn't even round 1 AFL-ready.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

This is a really good take, I wouldn't hate the Sharp pick - but we need to be realists in what he would bring next year.
If he's going at <50% de and 14 touches, he probably isn't even round 1 AFL-ready.

Those sort of stats would put him top 5 of our B&F this year.

 

[Jootube]

Are these Yeo descriptions about Sharp accurate? because Yeo is/was an athletic beast with burst and agility, not solely a contested inside mid.

Spot on. At the pre-draft Combine Elliot Yeo was:

2nd - Kicking Accuracy
1st - Agility
7th - Running jump
1st - Standing jump (equaled NicNats record)

If Sharp puts up numbers like these I'm sold - seems unlikely.



I think the Yeo comparisons are a little absurd.

 

[Jukes]

Butler would be a great get, but we'll have to offer him well above his market rate to pry him away from the Hawks.

I would love to disagree because he is uncontracted, Hawks have many similar players and he is on their fringe (although was called back to play last week).

However, given the Hawks are pricks and our PTSD with previous trade dealings, I think you’re right.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

It's frustrating that we have all this talk and rumours. It's been pretty clear for the last 3 or 4 months that we shouldn't worry about trading down, we should just take Duursma and Sharp. If we want a pick in the 5-10 range, we trade up to get it with the Hawks first/our 2nd/Hawks 2nd combo.

Just hope the club feels the same way.

 

[twadds]

This is a really good take, I wouldn't hate the Sharp pick - but we need to be realists in what he would bring next year.
If he's going at <50% de and 14 touches, he probably isn't even round 1 AFL-ready.

Playing in a fwd pocket a lot.

 

[stallon]

The issue is that Green is basically the best player in the league at what he does. ie. has one dimension but is extremely good at it.

So either Sharp becomes that or he’s just another plodder who is decent on the ball. One dimensional players carry a lot of risk if they can’t become the best.

This is why im not overly concerned about drafting him.
Hes a safe, boring, and low ceiling pick.

Low risk low reward, imo not the type you spend a top 2 pick on but if the draft is that poor then it is what it is

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

This is a really good take, I wouldn't hate the Sharp pick - but we need to be realists in what he would bring next year.
If he's going at <50% de and 14 touches, he probably isn't even round 1 AFL-ready.

Sounds like a West Coast first round pick to me!

 

[Hasselhough]

GWS gamestyle only works with Green in there. Not saying Sharp is the guy we 100% need but GWS do make it work with a guy similar to Sharp.
There are other ways to fill that gap Green does than Sharp though tbf

The thing with sharpe is he isn't just elite with has clearance work but although no blessed with pace he has endurance and running patterns to rack up outside ball in transition.

He is also a very good overhead mark which will allow him to win one on one's with other mids

 

[beagles]

So it's now Duursma and then CDT

 

[WCE_Phill]

Butler would be a great get, but we'll have to offer him well above his market rate to pry him away from the Hawks.

Disagree, we have cap space. Offer him 3-4 years at @ $600-$700k. Hawks are only going to offer 2-3 @ $400

 

[WCE_Phill]

It's frustrating that we have all this talk and rumours. It's been pretty clear for the last 3 or 4 months that we shouldn't worry about trading down, we should just take Duursma and Sharp. If we want a pick in the 5-10 range, we trade up to get it with the Hawks first/our 2nd/Hawks 2nd combo.

Just hope the club feels the same way.

I've been told that we're wanting 3 top 10 picks and have our eyes on GC (Port pick)

Unused 2R and 3R will be moved into next year.

Splitting 2 with Essendon could also be on the cards but will be 5 and thier F1

Wasn't told who are targets are, just drafting team desires for capital.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Disagree, we have cap space. Offer him 3-4 years at @ $600-$700k. Hawks are only going to offer 2-3 @ $400

We don't disagree, we have the cap space to make it happen, yes. I'm keen.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Apart from Starcevich, it seems like we're still trying to get players that can't get a game at other teams? I hope we have a better outcome than in the past. I suppose we're due for some luck.
At least for Butler it seems to be more bad luck than anything due injury.

 

[bzparkes]

Disagree, we have cap space. Offer him 3-4 years at @ $600-$700k. Hawks are only going to offer 2-3 @ $400

$600k-700k over 3-4 years certainly is more attractive than $400 bucks of 2-3.

Surely he'll sign on for that?

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Disagree, we have cap space. Offer him 3-4 years at @ $600-$700k. Hawks are only going to offer 2-3 @ $400

Even though we brought in Owies, Baker and Graham we've lost Barrass, Darling, Gaff, Sheed, Hunt, Kelly re-signing on what I assume is a lower money deal, 90% of Gov's final year is off the books because of concussion retirement, Oscar Allen and soon to be Liam Ryan to through trade.

We'd have to have cap space coming out the wazoo, which is why I didn't mind paying Harley close to what he was asking for, for a couple years...the money had to go somewhere with it being a dry FA class for us.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Apart from Starcevich, it seems like we're back to trying to get players that can't get a game at other teams? I hope we have a better outcome than in the past. I suppose we're due for some luck.
At least for Butler it seems to be more bad luck than anything due injury.

Which is why I said yesterday unless we're paying massive overs for a bloke I don't think many people are gonna wanna play in a one win team, Harley re-signing or not.

Just have to bank on the draft and improvement from who we got right now and hope that's enough to lure Warner over in a couple years cos we'll sure as f*ck have the money for him.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Disagree, we have cap space. Offer him 3-4 years at @ $600-$700k. Hawks are only going to offer 2-3 @ $400

This is also how we piss off other players when you bring in someone that's no guarantee to be in our best 22 and give them $600-$700k on the basis of very little. Everyone starts looking around going WTF.

 

[stallon]

The thing with sharpe is he isn't just elite with has clearance work but although no blessed with pace he has endurance and running patterns to rack up outside ball in transition.

He is also a very good overhead mark which will allow him to win one on one's with other mids

Yes, but that doesnt mean Sharp is a 100% must have to fill the same role. There are other ways to make up a midfield than 1 slower defensive/contested mid and a bunch of attacking mids.

Geelong have 2 incredible runners who can accumulate then just a bunch of slow defensive mids for example. Swans have 1 defensive mid who doesnt accumulate(rowbottom) then some incredible attacking mids. Lions have that defensive mid but dont really have the attacking mids like the Swans do or like we project to have. GWS have Green then a bunch of mids/hffs that are incredible runners.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

This is also how we piss off other players when you bring in someone that's no guarantee to be in our best 22 and give them $600-$700k on the basis of very little. Everyone starts looking around going WTF.

Damn, I'd hate to run the risk of pissing off our existing players after their 14-win season.