List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  Jack Petruccelle

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  83kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.2

  2star

  K

  6.2

  2star

  HB

  3.0

  3star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  6.7

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.7

  2star

  M

  1.7

  2star

  T

  1.3

  2star

  G

  0.7

  4star

  D

  7.8

  2star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  3.2

  3star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  1.6

  4star

  G

  0.6

  3star

  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[eagles rule]

Thank Christ
At least we can move on.

Merrett anyone

Essendon would be glad to shove the finger to Mitchell if the Merrett bridges are burned any other team but Hawks

 

[Elite Pete]

Essendon would be glad to shove the finger to Mitchell if the Merrett bridges are burned any other team but Hawks

Yep, Country Vic boy so getting out of Melbourne might be a great call then to go play for you’re clubs biggest rivals (Pies,Hawks linked) especially for a coach that did a needle gesture and a fair whack at your whole club while you were playing. Might depend on what his wife’s work and family situation is.

You’d think getting out of Melbourne might be a good thing if they do trade him. Crows and Giants would be all over it imo but Hawks probably have the assets. Blues pick, McKenzie, Lewis, Butler

 

[Elite Pete]

As far as we seem away from turning this around the Hawks were pretty close to that a 18months ago. 0-5 in Mitchell’s 3rd year, ‘experts’ were saying they have got a long rebuild to go. Joey I think even said Mitchell won’t be the coach next time they play finals.

Majority looked at their list and they had no super star power. Just missed out of their main free agent and draft targets. Got in Ginni, Chol and Gunstan who their current clubs didn’t want anymore and offered Mass 2 years rather then 1 that the Bombers we’re offering.

A lot of their team are still role player but they are star role players at that. Coached well and the players but in. A midfield set up of Meek, Newcombe, Nash and Worpel just smashed a minor premier in a final.

I believe our future foundations are there and adding 3-4 first round picks will add to that. If we can bring in the right 3-4 of the right role players (or Neale another pre season with Mini and his new team. Bit of luck with injures we can turn this around faster then most can think. Not saying clear your September calendar for next year like the Hawks did because they weren’t as low and young as us but if Mini can coach, the recruiters have an eye for role players and we do well at the draft again and the players do the right thing and come back in ripping shape, things can turn quickly and even if that’s just to get back to last seasons 5-6 win that would be a giant leap.

 

[shooshka]

As far as we seem away from turning this around the Hawks were pretty close to that a 18months ago. 0-5 in Mitchell’s 3rd year, ‘experts’ were saying they have got a long rebuild to go. Joey I think even said Mitchell won’t be the coach next time they play finals.

Majority looked at their list and they had no super star power. Just missed out of their main free agent and draft targets. Got in Ginni, Chol and Gunstan who their current clubs didn’t want anymore and offered Mass 2 years rather then 1 that the Bombers we’re offering.

A lot of their team are still role player but they are star role players at that. Coached well and the players but in. A midfield set up of Meek, Newcombe, Nash and Worpel just smashed a minor premier in a final.

I believe our future foundations are there and adding 3-4 first round picks will add to that. If we can bring in the right 3-4 of the right role players (or Neale another pre season with Mini and his new team. Bit of luck with injures we can turn this around faster then most can think. Not saying clear your September calendar for next year like the Hawks did because they weren’t as low and young as us but if Mini can coach, the recruiters have an eye for role players and we do well at the draft again and the players do the right thing and come back in ripping shape, things can turn quickly and even if that’s just to get back to last seasons 5-6 win that would be a giant leap.

I love the positivity.

It’s going to take significant improvement from some of the younger players (absolutely possible). And we are screaming out for high end talent. Especially around the middle where it is Harley or bust for the most part.

But 1,2 and another top 10 (through trading up), even in a weak ish draft is a decent start. We will hold a top-3 pick next season again.

Then concentrate on free agency and moneyball trades. (We can still look at moneyball trades now onwards, FA obviously we need to ensure we don’t water down compo).

I’m comfortable that the rebuild is well underway (the media who say otherwise are pretty lazy in their analysis) - but what we haven’t done is prioritise real top end talent (Ginbey + Hewett seems a great move tbh, Baker + Allan too early to say). Time to load up in the next 2 drafts pre Tassie with early picks.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Inside Oliver-like rise of 2025s biggest bolter; top six emerges ahead of combine — Draft Watch

Inside rise of biggest bolter as clubs blown away; Eagles plan as top six emerges — Draft Watch

www.foxsports.com.au

From this mornings Fox Sports draft article. Teams looking to trade out of this 'bad' draft because of all the players already tied to clubs. But pick 1 and 2 is still pretty prime rib to get in before the Northern clubs take their turns on pillaging it.

From the article

I have absolutely zero idea about this years draft, but it seems pretty clear cut who we should be picking with 1 and 2

 

[eaglevision]

I have absolutely zero idea about this years draft, but it seems pretty clear cut who we should be picking with 1 and 2

Exactly. Jacob Farrow and Josh Lindsay.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Exactly. Jacob Farrow and Josh Lindsay.

Like I said i know nothing so I'll take your word for it

 

[Elite Pete]

I love the positivity.

It’s going to take significant improvement from some of the younger players (absolutely possible). And we are screaming out for high end talent. Especially around the middle where it is Harley or bust for the most part.

But 1,2 and another top 10 (through trading up), even in a weak ish draft is a decent start. We will hold a top-3 pick next season again.

Then concentrate on free agency and moneyball trades. (We can still look at moneyball trades now onwards, FA obviously we need to ensure we don’t water down compo).

I’m comfortable that the rebuild is well underway (the media who say otherwise are pretty lazy in their analysis) - but what we haven’t done is prioritise real top end talent (Ginbey + Hewett seems a great move tbh, Baker + Allan too early to say). Time to load up in the next 2 drafts pre Tassie with early picks.

Will my earlier post is a positive post there is also no guarantees. We have seen how long rebuilds can take with making the wrong moves, getting 60 games into the wrong players. The Hawks rebuild leap is definitely a lower chance.

Yeah it’s going to take a lot of improvement but with this young list should happen but there are no guarantees, the work has to be done, training, game plan, identifying the right players to bring in ect.

High end talent is a must and that should be a given with our projected draft hand. Even with an unlikely trade this year, it should happen via the draft. Next year we reassess. Can we bring in a Rankine like trade and give away a top 6 pick?

Midfield needs to be the major area of improvement. IMO need 2 ready made players in there on top of what we had this year (plus the unknown availability of Yeo). The crash and bash type should be easy enough to find, (Ned Long type)The running link player a lot harder. Can Tom McCarthy fill this role and we get the modern day hbf via trade or draft? Maybe. McVee? Can Hough now play that role? Looked more attacking when he went back there? Getting Brockman around the ball might be a great thing but does he have the endurance.

Nothing certain about list builds and without doubt a lot of luck is needed

 

[amazingjoshy]

As far as we seem away from turning this around the Hawks were pretty close to that a 18months ago. 0-5 in Mitchell’s 3rd year, ‘experts’ were saying they have got a long rebuild to go. Joey I think even said Mitchell won’t be the coach next time they play finals.

Majority looked at their list and they had no super star power. Just missed out of their main free agent and draft targets. Got in Ginni, Chol and Gunstan who their current clubs didn’t want anymore and offered Mass 2 years rather then 1 that the Bombers we’re offering.

A lot of their team are still role player but they are star role players at that. Coached well and the players but in. A midfield set up of Meek, Newcombe, Nash and Worpel just smashed a minor premier in a final.

I believe our future foundations are there and adding 3-4 first round picks will add to that. If we can bring in the right 3-4 of the right role players (or Neale another pre season with Mini and his new team. Bit of luck with injures we can turn this around faster then most can think. Not saying clear your September calendar for next year like the Hawks did because they weren’t as low and young as us but if Mini can coach, the recruiters have an eye for role players and we do well at the draft again and the players do the right thing and come back in ripping shape, things can turn quickly and even if that’s just to get back to last seasons 5-6 win that would be a giant leap.

I think what the Hawks rise shows us, along with the Cats always being up there, is that its not always about loading up on high picks thats the be all and end all.

Kills me to say to say it but both clubs are extremely well run and very well coached, and hardly reliant on high picks. Game plan and tactics still very important, talent alone doesn't get you anywhere.

Getting the off field right in terms of standards and development far more important than draft numbers

 

[InTheWings]

I think what the Hawks rise shows us, along with the Cats always being up there, is that its not always about loading up on high picks thats the be all and end all.

Kills me to say to say it but both clubs are extremely well run and very well coached, and hardly reliant on high picks. Game plan and tactics still very important, talent alone doesn't get you anywhere.

Getting the off field right in terms of standards and development far more important than draft numbers

Which is one reason I am excited by the Mitch Duncan appointment.

 

[stallon]

Will my earlier post is a positive post there is also no guarantees. We have seen how long rebuilds can take with making the wrong moves, getting 60 games into the wrong players. The Hawks rebuild leap is definitely a lower chance.

Yeah it’s going to take a lot of improvement but with this young list should happen but there are no guarantees, the work has to be done, training, game plan, identifying the right players to bring in ect.

High end talent is a must and that should be a given with our projected draft hand. Even with an unlikely trade this year, it should happen via the draft. Next year we reassess. Can we bring in a Rankine like trade and give away a top 6 pick?

Midfield needs to be the major area of improvement. IMO need 2 ready made players in there on top of what we had this year (plus the unknown availability of Yeo). The crash and bash type should be easy enough to find, (Ned Long type)The running link player a lot harder. Can Tom McCarthy fill this role and we get the modern day hbf via trade or draft? Maybe. McVee? Can Hough now play that role? Looked more attacking when he went back there? Getting Brockman around the ball might be a great thing but does he have the endurance.

Nothing certain about list builds and without doubt a lot of luck is needed

Id be pretty happy locking in McCarthy as a midfielder at this stage, meaning we need probably just 1 mature age midfielder who leans more inside(like a Ned Long type). If we get Yeo back for a bit of 2026 our midfield would be pretty solid then imo.
Add one of Starc or McVee or something, which would allow Baker to stay at half forward.
Gives us every part of the ground covered with a mature player

As you say just need that modern attacking HBF and younger/more long term inside mid(s), plus a wingman to replace Chesser from this draft.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Unlikely to leave now you’d think. If he was still playing VFL at this stage maybe. About to play in a prelim

At least it shows we might be at least identifying the buy low and ready to take their game to the next level talent. Erasmus definitely did late and now Butler

Yep, he's doing a Dev. Playing finals well at time of contract. 100% staying

We should be in Hustwaites ear though

 

[ArdentEagle]

A common "views and opinions expressed" disclaimer states that the opinions presented are those of the author or speaker and do not necessarily reflect the views of their employer, institution, or any other affiliated organization. A simple example is, "The views expressed herein are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the views of dinnaz

More right than wrong is the goal. No need to sugarcoat anything here its just a forum for expressing ideas

Okay.

I think you have an abhorrently giant shit take on more than 90% of your views, on players and talent identification in particular.

I like to read posts before I look at who the poster is, and yours sound like they come from an all knowing position BUT, you sprout more shit than my arse, even when I had dysentery in Mirzapur

My 9yr old boy would be far better judge, with a much higher hit rate

 

[Hasselhough]

Inside Oliver-like rise of 2025s biggest bolter; top six emerges ahead of combine — Draft Watch

Inside rise of biggest bolter as clubs blown away; Eagles plan as top six emerges — Draft Watch

www.foxsports.com.au

From this mornings Fox Sports draft article. Teams looking to trade out of this 'bad' draft because of all the players already tied to clubs. But pick 1 and 2 is still pretty prime rib to get in before the Northern clubs take their turns on pillaging it.

From the article

That paragraph looks like pure speculation.

We are screaming out for long term genuine midfielders .

Neither duursma or CDT are that .

 

[Hasselhough]

So butler looks like everything we wanted owies to be .

Offer him 4 years at 700k

Probably wont come but it will force hawks to up their offer big time

 

[Obeanie1]

I have absolutely zero idea about this years draft, but it seems pretty clear cut who we should be picking with 1 and 2

Who?

Sharp
Duursma

 

[Obeanie1]

So butler looks like everything we wanted owies to be .

Offer him 4 years at 700k

Probably wont come but it will force hawks to up their offer big time

If we don't land them make them pay up $$.

I'm sure the player won't mind the love and attention.

If we miss out now who knows what happens later.

 

[beagles]

That paragraph looks like pure speculation.

We are screaming out for long term genuine midfielders .

Neither duursma or CDT are that .

Clearly everyone else has Duursma and CDT as pick 1 and 2 going to the Eagles, so do I

 

[txbyhull]

If he played forward so much then it wouldn't hurt to hit the scoreboard

Bailey Williams had pretty much identical year despite being a leapfrog that can't kick straight.
CDT a better centre half forward option, Williams better deeper.

Would have gone in the mid-late 30's last year

Even as CDTs biggest hater, even I can acknowledge this is ignorant as all f. He hits the scoreboard, he’s just not a sharpshooter. 2 recent games one at VFL was 3.2 and he shot 2.5 both from set shots and at ground level in CTL recently.

He absolutely would’ve been a top 10 player last year. Even I’m not that dumb as to say that

 

[Godfather32]

Id be pretty happy locking in McCarthy as a midfielder at this stage, meaning we need probably just 1 mature age midfielder who leans more inside(like a Ned Long type). If we get Yeo back for a bit of 2026 our midfield would be pretty solid then imo.
Add one of Starc or McVee or something, which would allow Baker to stay at half forward.
Gives us every part of the ground covered with a mature player

As you say just need that modern attacking HBF and younger/more long term inside mid(s), plus a wingman to replace Chesser from this draft.

As much as he showed a bit in the last couple of games I'd prefer we left McCarthy to distribute off half back, he's the only one back there who can really nail a kick.

 

[twadds]

Insufficient intent is a good rule it just needs to be umpired correctly.

You hack it out of defence to the boundary with no player their its a free

You purposely handball or tap it out it's a free .

If it comes off the side of the boot no free .

You save it from going out and kick it up the line and it goes out no free

If an opposition player can pick it up but let's it go out on purpose no free

Trouble is umps continually get this wrong. Last possession takes out the grey areas and it works well in SANFL and AFLW.

 

[twadds]

“Sharpe” is this years “Curtain” isn’t it?

 

[ArdentEagle]

“Sharpe” is this years “Curtain” isn’t it?

I like to think of him as wearing a toupee or perhaps thinks he's French

 

[Peptide Pig]

As I’ve said before it’s not uncommon.

Hawks missed a lot of their first choice targets 2 years ago and had to pivot to Chol, Gunstan, Ginni and Mass.

We will (hoprfully) do the same, just hope for the same luck and our scouts have the same sort of eye for role players.

Plenty of afl ready players can fill a role that have gone through drafts and trade period with no one interested to being a great pick up and best 23.

Keays, Hinge, Ned Long, Farrar, Humphries, Mannagh, Atkins, Membrey, Mihocek of some playing in the last 6 teams.

The concern is that we already missed our first choices in Warner, Cameron etc. We have then pivoted (like the Hawks did so well) to the next tier or two down of Erasmus, Davies etc but they are also starting to dry up as options. There are heaps of guys putting up huge numbers in state leagues who may be gettable like Hustwaite, Tsatas etc but most have question marks and that’s even if they would come to WA.

We are also restricted with FA acquisitions as we can’t risk diluting OA compo. If we can’t at least lure some mature role players then we would be stuck with a bunch of picks in a weak draft, while losing senior players despite not wanting to get younger.

Optimistic that we can land Starcevich and a couple of mature mids, whether that’s one veteran like Steele/Neale and 1-2 fringe 20-24 year olds with upside. Butler would be a good get. Would love a curveball like Walter, Warner or Flanders to come our way but we will know more when more teams drop out of finals.

 

[ziad]

The concern is that we already missed our first choices in Warner, Cameron etc. We have then pivoted (like the Hawks did so well) to the next tier or two down of Erasmus, Davies etc but they are also starting to dry up as options. There are heaps of guys putting up huge numbers in state leagues who may be gettable like Hustwaite, Tsatas etc but most have question marks and that’s even if they would come to WA.

We are also restricted with FA acquisitions as we can’t risk diluting OA compo. If we can’t at least lure some mature role players then we would be stuck with a bunch of picks in a weak draft, while losing senior players despite not wanting to get younger.

Optimistic that we can land Starcevich and a couple of mature mids, whether that’s one veteran like Steele/Neale and 1-2 fringe 20-24 year olds with upside. Butler would be a good get. Would love a curveball like Walter, Warner or Flanders to come our way but we will know more when more teams drop out of finals.

Just out of interest, we dont seem to look at Ireland?