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USA MAGA activist Charlie Kirk shot dead during Utah rally

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Okay. We've probably had enough of a free for all.

There are still forum and site posting guidelines, and you will abide by them.

A few seem to be of the opinion that now is a good time to have a crack at moderators or moderation. I'd rather like to discourage that impulse so I'm going to make it explicit: a moderator on this forum is a poster like any other, and can share their views and have free use of the forum like any other. If you feel a post breaches the rules report it; attacking a mod for their posting or objecting to a post purely because a moderator said it is grounds for an infraction and some time off.

From here, if you cannot speak civilly, you will not be allowed to participate.

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Kirk's wife positioning herself as some sort of shield maiden.

And they have their new leader, or at least a strong candidate or person with the power to anoint the successor. No doubt she inherits his assets like shares of ownership of the companies that Kirk built up.

You can feel the vultures picking at the carcass.

Wow. Just wow.
 

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Chat GPT or Grok?
 
Maybe Peewee German should concentrate on his fellow travellers.

He is more evil than some on conspiracy board
 
According to a reporter from the Guardian, who spoke with one of his high school friends, he was the only 'leftist' among a family of hardcore Republicans, at least at high school. Says he hadn't spoken with him since 2021.

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Editor’s note: This article was updated on 12 September 2025 to remove quotes after the verified source who attended high school with Tyler Robinson said after publication that they could not accurately remember details of their relationship.
 

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It was how the Christchurch shooter signed off on his last post 8 chan.
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Rather strange thing for the head of the FBI to say.

Would be interesting if he was some sort of Hindu nationalist - pure speculation, I know nothing about the clown other than he is in no way qualified to be doing what he is doing.
 
You are denying reality with your comments above. Everyone on the left hasn’t lost their mind or their humanity. Just a laughable thing to say.

If you're a centrist you're now considered a lefty by the right - thats how stupid its become.
 

He did not order the flags to be flown at half-staff, and when asked if he would call Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, Trump replied, "I think the governor of Minnesota is so whacked out. I'm not calling him. Why would I call him? I could call and say, 'Hi, how you doing?' Uh, the guy doesn't have a clue. He's a mess. I could be nice and call, but why waste time?" Unlike former president Joe Bidenand former vice president Kamala Harris, Trump did not attend Melissa's funeral, reportedly choosing to go golfing instead that day.
 

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The way the local right wing warriors are using the Kirk murder to shine the spotlight on their insignificant lives is both idiotic and entirely predictable.



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Sounds fair:

BREAKING: A prominent Black influencer goes viral with a powerful post about Charlie Kirk, condemning the assassination as "absolutely horrific" while being bluntly honest about how history will remember the right-wing demagogue.

It's crucial that we push back on attempts to whitewash this man's hateful legacy...

"America lost Charlie Kirk a couple hours ago, violently, tragically, and in a moment that was recorded, and is circulating social. I will not post it because it’s absolutely horrific," wrote The Hungry Black Man wrote to his 300,000 followers on Facebook.

Kirk, a hardcore pro-gun advocate and professional racebaiter, was tragically shot and killed yesterday at Utah Valley University. The killer remains at large.

"Charlie was not a figure of grace or empathy," continued The Hungry Black Man. "History will not remember him as a voice of unity or a champion of justice. He will be remembered for the words he chose, words that often wounded and divided. As he lay bleeding out onstage, those words, once weapons, became dust."

"When he was shot, he was speaking about one of America’s deepest wounds: mass shootings," he went on. "When asked about school shootings, his response was not measured compassion but deflection. 'Counting or not counting gang violence?' he said, as if the grief of families who send their children to school only to bury them could be minimized by a technicality. And then, almost instantly, a shot rang out. He fell, his voice instantly silenced."

"This is not eulogy-flattery," he continued. "This is memory. We remember the things he said about Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.: 'MLK was awful. He’s not a good person.' We remember his calculation on gun violence: 'I think it’s worth … some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.' These are not the words of healing, not the words of unity. And yet they, too, are part of the ledger he leaves behind."

"So what do we do with a legacy like this? First, we tell the truth. We acknowledge what he said, how he said it, and the hurt it caused," he went on. "Second, we resist the temptation to let violence beget violence. For if this act tells us anything, it is that political violence has become a siren call to the unhinged, a spark they would gladly use to ignite the tinderbox of racial and class resentment. Today it was a conservative voice silenced. Tomorrow, it could just as easily be a progressive one. We must not let this become the currency of politics."

"We should also understand the warning buried in this moment," he wrote. "What we say matters. How we live matters. The words we choose, the causes we defend, the way we treat one another, these become the bricks of our legacy. Kirk’s words were often sharp, sometimes cruel, but they are now etched into his memory as surely as his death. Let the rest of us take note: legacies should be rooted in love, in justice, in equality, not in division or deflection."

"Rest, if you can, Mr. Kirk. May your final act teach us something lasting: that even in grief, we are called to choose better," the post concluded.

Kirk's assassination is a dark moment for America and it's a direct result of allowing a country awash in guns to descend into hyper-polarized politicization. His death is a tragedy, but so is every death caused by gun violence. If we want to create a safer, more peaceful nation we must turn away from the hateful rhetoric that Kirk spread and embrace a vision of America where equality and understanding are celebrated.

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Yep. Total leftie hate speech.
 

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