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USA MAGA activist Charlie Kirk shot dead during Utah rally

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Erika Kirk speech.The wife.

She told “the evil-doers responsible for my husband’s assassination,” that “if you thought that my husband’s mission was powerful before, you have no idea what you just have unleashed across this entire country and this world.”

“You have no idea the fire that you have ignited within this wife. The cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry,” she said. “The movement my husband built will not die.”


Gotta protect the grift.

This is why I feel sorry for the kids and not the wife. She knew who he was and condoned it.

I'm not sure if she should be the new voice though ... being a woman and all. Not really her place in that world.
 
It seems that the shooter was or is a mormon.....and his father was in law enforcement at some time and took him to the pastor and then turned him in. You couldnt write a story like this. I will admit that I wouldnt be turning my son into a system that will exterminate him. And of course, let us pray ....pray for all the dead and all the other stuff that should be prayed at.

p.s. i just read the two previous posts. gee whiz....
 
I'm not sure if she should be the new voice though ... being a woman and all. Not really her place in that world.
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Erika Kirk speech.The wife.

She told “the evil-doers responsible for my husband’s assassination,” that “if you thought that my husband’s mission was powerful before, you have no idea what you just have unleashed across this entire country and this world.”

“You have no idea the fire that you have ignited within this wife. The cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry,” she said. “The movement my husband built will not die.”

Kirk's wife positioning herself as some sort of shield maiden.

And they have their new leader, or at least a strong candidate or person with the power to anoint the successor. No doubt she inherits his assets like shares of ownership of the companies that Kirk built up.

You can feel the vultures picking at the carcass.
 
Whats hilarious is people pretending stuff like his stoning gays to death thing was out of context.

"Just asking questions" :drunk:
Author Stephen King apologized Friday for saying that Charlie Kirk "advocated stoning gays to death."

"I apologize for saying Charlie Kirk advocated stoning gays. What he actually demonstrated was how some people cherry-pick Biblical passages," he wrote on X.


Please feel free to prove otherwise. Ill wait
 
Author Stephen King apologized Friday for saying that Charlie Kirk "advocated stoning gays to death."

"I apologize for saying Charlie Kirk advocated stoning gays. What he actually demonstrated was how some people cherry-pick Biblical passages," he wrote on X.


Please feel free to prove otherwise. Ill wait

Stephen King is a zionist, not a leftist.
 
Gotta protect the grift.

This is why I feel sorry for the kids and not the wife. She knew who he was and condoned it.

I'm not sure if she should be the new voice though ... being a woman and all. Not really her place in that world.
She can **** off. Her speech was a thinly veiled attack on the left, in spite of what we now know. And she vowed that the world will never forget his name, yeah well he was happy enough for the names of dead children to be forgotten, in order for him to carry a gun.

As he once said, we can’t let the families of gun violence victims, hijack the conversation.
 
So Kirk, a right wing hate merchant influencer, was done in by a fan of another right wing hate merchant influencer. Maybe the problem is the hateful speech these people sprout that's poisoning the minds of people, particularly young men, that's resulting in increased violence. Maybe we should stop these grifters from airing so much hate speech in public?

Just kidding, none of you care
The hate speech just moves to encrypted messaging.

It's the same tactic as a scammer contacting you on Facebook marketplace and giving you their WhatsApp number to continue the con in private.
 
Both sides have their downsides. Just baffled why people like you deliberately be obtuse, and select your outrage. Why don't you call out the attacks and murders of Democrat figures? Or share the same passion for mass school murders as you do for an "inferencer"?

Yeah it's totally just the left being violent.
evolved2 seems to believe they're a centrist but clearly hate the left a lot more than the right.
 
Author Stephen King apologized Friday for saying that Charlie Kirk "advocated stoning gays to death."

"I apologize for saying Charlie Kirk advocated stoning gays. What he actually demonstrated was how some people cherry-pick Biblical passages," he wrote on X.


Please feel free to prove otherwise. Ill wait
Already have, the video has been posted quite a few times already.

"Advocating", sure thats not quite right and Mr King shouldn't have used that word. But if you can't recognise what Kirk said as "just asking questions"/"just sayin" type shtick I'm not sure what to tell you.
 

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She can **** off. Her speech was a thinly veiled attack on the left, in spite of what we now know. And she vowed that the world will never forget his name, yeah well he was happy enough for the names of dead children to be forgotten, in order for him to carry a gun.

As he once said, we can’t let the families of gun violence victims, hijack the conversation.
She could have cut all the extraneous crap and just said keep sending money. At least that would have been honest.
 
Based on the early information Tyler Robinson appears to have been more on the right side of political beliefs.

The interesting thing is the Trump assassination attempt and now the Kirk assassination appears to be from perpetrator on the right side beliefs.

Regarding the motivation for the Kirk assassination I don't really know. I'm only speculating that I think as others said that is was a part of Groyper; or the other possibility is to cause conflict/chaos between the Democrats and Republicans.

The US seems to be more divided than ever. Perhaps he thought if he could assassinate Kirk it would lead to the Democrats being blamed and the Republicans would double down on repressing the Democrats and take even more extreme measures are start a war with them.

If he was a Groyper then he may also think that this would push the more moderate Republicans further right with the "us vs them" environment it creates.
That’s the only motivation that comes to mind. He had the opportunity, chance to keep completely quiet and stay hidden. He was the opposite of what FBI were looking for.

Put all the blame on Democrats, and watch America riot.
 
Yeah, I don't know, now I saw a comment about it being something the groypers used to chant at Kirk years ago in opposition to him

We'll find out soon enough.
The main information I have seen points at it being simply manufacturers marking on the casings. Not sure if there was anything on the gun or whatever. It seems like a sideshow touted by social media attention-seekers.
 

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Gotta protect the grift.

This is why I feel sorry for the kids and not the wife. She knew who he was and condoned it.

I'm not sure if she should be the new voice though ... being a woman and all. Not really her place in that world.
Starting with Phyllis Schafly these women are very good at saying other women should be submissive and spend their lives tethered to the home, but not them.
 

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