List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  Jack Petruccelle

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  83kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.2

  2star

  K

  6.2

  2star

  HB

  3.0

  3star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  6.7

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.7

  2star

  M

  1.7

  2star

  T

  1.3

  2star

  G

  0.7

  4star

  D

  7.8

  2star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  3.2

  3star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  1.6

  4star

  G

  0.6

  3star

  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[shooshka]

I have say the thought of another year of our rucks being Flynn and Williams makes me want to , Reid showed some good signs in there, I hope he’s hitting the gym hard in the offseason and putting on a few kg’s.

Reid’s obviously not going to move from a part time ruck to a top-10-in-the-league ruck in 1 offseason, but I 100% agree - his offseason should centre on bulking up and looking to take over as #1 ruck in 2026.

He’s shown he’s competitive and adaptable as a ruck, and our stocks are so poor that he could easily jump (pardon the pun BW) the other 2.

Then we can look at drafting a KPF early-ish (ideally not CDT and not that early) this draft, and a KPD with a later pick or SSP

 

[txbyhull]

In the last 2 years we’ve lost Barrass and McGovern, we have the worst ruck combination in the AFL, and I see plenty of draft predictions having us taking no talls in this draft, I’d be very surprised if that’s the case. Anyway this time of year is always entertaining.

Probably a big factor that there’s not any stand outs. If there was an elite KPD we’d be taking them with either 1 or 2

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Probably a big factor that there’s not any stand outs. If there was an elite KPD we’d be taking them with either 1 or 2

Doubt very much we'd take one that early.

 

[txbyhull]

Doubt very much we'd take one that early.

I guess it always comes down to elite vs elite but if there was a KPD with even 80% the draft year of a Weitering then we’d be taking them with our natural picks I’d hope

 

[eagles rule]

Uncontested players rule the game now. Even if he never makes it as a mid we have an elite line breaking half back who is very good in the air.

Look at most of the top teams this year and how the game is played. Yes we need mids as well but elite rebounding defenders with good work rate are nearly the most important players on the field.

Yep that’s exactly what Dimmer did he targeted Rioli and Noble to kick start his game plan ..

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Yep that’s exactly what Dimmer did he targeted Rioli and Noble to kick start his game plan ..

He did have a nice little bonus in already boasting the uber beast Rowell AND Anderson in the guts.

 

[rebel23]

Yep that’s exactly what Dimmer did he targeted Rioli and Noble to kick start his game plan ..

It's because of the dumbest rule in all of sports (stand rule)... Where outside receivers can just cheat their way at the beginning.

Once that rule gets turfed it'll even out in terms of contested vs outside players as to which has higher draft value

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Suns

Uncontested players rule the game now. Even if he never makes it as a mid we have an elite line breaking half back who is very good in the air.

Look at most of the top teams this year and how the game is played. Yes we need mids as well but elite rebounding defenders with good work rate are nearly the most important players on the field.

Newcombe and Dunkley say hi.

Every team has one, we don't.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Stand rule is an abomination and I don't like 6-6-6 either. I actually used to like it when teams would push numbers back to grimly defend a lead late in the game when the other team had all the momentum. Or the "spitter" type role that Simmo used to get LeCras or Jetta to do.

I also didn't mind third man up at around the ground ruck contests.

Ugh. I feel like an old man yelling at clouds but I can't think of a single good rule brought in since I can remember watching footy (41 years old, earliest I can remember watching footy is early 90s Eagles golden era).

 

[Coasters7]

Suns

Newcombe and Dunkley say hi.

Every team has one, we don't.

Harley?

I know another one would be nice but we are also missing drive off the back half.

Also the original point was in regards to Duursma. You’d hope he makes it as a mid but if worse case he settles down back then I wouldn’t say that’s a failure.

 

[Coasters7]

Stand rule is an abomination and I don't like 6-6-6 either. I actually used to like it when teams would push numbers back to grimly defend a lead late in the game when the other team had all the momentum. Or the "spitter" type role that Simmo used to get LeCras or Jetta to do.

I also didn't mind third man up at around the ground ruck contests.

Ugh. I feel like an old man yelling at clouds but I can't think of a single good rule brought in since I can remember watching footy (41 years old, earliest I can remember watching footy is early 90s Eagles golden era).

Also part of the reason there’s such a gap between the best and worst. In the past you could limit the damage and grind the game down to compete. With the new rules it’s impossible.

Imagine how shit soccer would be if they had a similar rule. The game would be “more exciting” but the results would be horrible.

 

[BSD]

Yep that’s exactly what Dimmer did he targeted Rioli and Noble to kick start his game plan ..

To emulate that then Josh Lindsay has to be one of our first 2 picks along with our third pick a midfielder that can kick with either foot that we can also convert to a half back flanker.

 

[FKASC]

Harley?

I know another one would be nice but we are also missing drive off the back half.

Also the original point was in regards to Duursma. You’d hope he makes it as a mid but if worse case he settles down back then I wouldn’t say that’s a failure.

Harley’s wasted as a pure inside mid

I think the point is that everyone needs to be able to win their own footy these days, but inside stoppage specialists are probably less important than they once were, and you only need one on the field.

Richmond showed that you will win games with a fleet of fast outside players who tackle well and reliably win ground ball contests

 

[1986]

This is what I have doubts about.

Already Ryan Daniels has mentioned pick 19 ffs. That's absurd.

If Lions have a 4 year deal on the table for him there's zero chance they let him walk cheaply. If we pay out the ass for a solid/limited albeit experienced player, that's going around in circles IMO.

Just did that with Baker, Graham and Owies.

Let's hope the AFL give us a FR2 that we have to trade.
With the expected partial freeze on round one bidding next year it's probably worth more than 19 this year.
Trade the FR2 for Starcevich.
That's a win for everyone, we don't have to use a pick this year for him, Brisbane get some value they wouldn't have gotten anyway, and the AFL don't have to mess with the FA dilution for Oscar.
Use 19 on McVee or similar.

 

[Westend]

Stand rule is an abomination and I don't like 6-6-6 either. I actually used to like it when teams would push numbers back to grimly defend a lead late in the game when the other team had all the momentum. Or the "spitter" type role that Simmo used to get LeCras or Jetta to do.

I also didn't mind third man up at around the ground ruck contests.

Ugh. I feel like an old man yelling at clouds but I can't think of a single good rule brought in since I can remember watching footy (41 years old, earliest I can remember watching footy is early 90s Eagles golden era).

Yeah but then we will go back to the Paul Roos Ross Lyon game plan ..flooding which made the game look shit

6-6-6 is okay for me....stand rule yes I see see merits in changing that

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Harley?

I know another one would be nice but we are also missing drive off the back half.

Also the original point was in regards to Duursma. You’d hope he makes it as a mid but if worse case he settles down back then I wouldn’t say that’s a failure.

Harley has no defensive inside game. None of our mids do except Graham and yeo. You'll notice I exclud d Yeo from my initial post because well...you know.

 

[DirtySandman]

Reid showed some good signs in there, I hope he’s hitting the gym hard in the offseason and putting on a few kg’s.

I’d prefer Reid training to run like cousins…..that’s the modern game, be on the move don’t get into wrestling at stoppages…..go go go!

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Harley has no defensive inside game. None of our mids do except Graham and yeo. You'll notice I exclud d Yeo from my initial post because well...you know.

To be fair I don’t want Harley to have a defensive side. He needs to focus entirely on ball winning. His defensive side is in having opponents focus entirely on him and not the ball

 

[The Gtrain]

Good for F&S, F&D?

M&S, M&D as well?

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Yeah but then we will go back to the Paul Roos Ross Lyon game plan ..flooding which made the game look shit

It kept games close though. Sick of blowouts and the increasing gap between the good teams and ... us.

 

[FKASC]

To be fair I don’t want Harley to have a defensive side. He needs to focus entirely on ball winning. His defensive side is in having opponents focus entirely on him and not the ball

Ball winning requires some level of defence though - it’s not about negating but about fighting for the footy. Not just expecting it to be given to you

 

[Boohemian]

It kept games close though. Sick of blowouts and the increasing gap between the good teams and ... us.

There is literally no mention of this in current AFL discourse - there should be.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Ball winning requires some level of defence though - it’s not about negating but about fighting for the footy. Not just expecting it to be given to you

 

[WCE777]

We should be training Archer as a KPD/2nd ruck then looking to bring in shubert

While it sounds good on paper no player can play KPD and 2nd ruck in the same game.
The KPD has his hands full and defensive structures get thrown completely out.

A Reid is already a 2nd ruck and playing KPF as its where they can rest.
A Reid will probably overtake BW next year or the year after in the rucking department as he is already very good at ruck craft, very mobile and developing quicker than expected.
Leave him there until it looks like he won't make it?

While Schubert is a very good KPF prospect that we could turn into a KPD, I would be inclined to use a top 10 pick on different players, we need heaps of talent but I think we could better utilise that pick in 2025.
If WC want a developing KPD in the 2025 draft Ainsworth would be a good get in the late 2nd/3rd round, tall as H Edwards but much more mobile and has played ruck very well in the U18 championships. Very versatile prospect.

Speaking of KPD prospects, WC have a decent NGA prospect in 2026 in D Shanahan who projects as a mobile, big, athletic, big leap from African background who with taking Ainsworth this year would cement our KPD stocks for 10 years.
2026 KPF draft prospect K LeCras, nephew of Mark looks an exciting CHF type and would be the perfect Waterman replacement longer term.

 

[Weshi]

Stand rule is an abomination and I don't like 6-6-6 either. I actually used to like it when teams would push numbers back to grimly defend a lead late in the game when the other team had all the momentum. Or the "spitter" type role that Simmo used to get LeCras or Jetta to do.

I also didn't mind third man up at around the ground ruck contests.

Ugh. I feel like an old man yelling at clouds but I can't think of a single good rule brought in since I can remember watching footy (41 years old, earliest I can remember watching footy is early 90s Eagles golden era).

The stand rule goes against footy dynamics, forcing a player to be a motionless object. They compound it by not forcing the kicker to start behind the mark. It also forces the umpires to focus on a motionless object.
The 50m penalty for running through the 5m exclusion zone but not impacting the play at all is another!