No Oppo Supporters Non Bulldog Footy Talk - Bulldogs Only - Part 6

[Dogs_R_Us]

No comment on certain clubs' boards.

 

[Mojorisin]

The suppression order is at the behest of the victim and will be lifted after sentencing.

However like most such orders they leak like a sieve and the details of the case have been an open secret for a while.

I agree suppression orders do little these days but this one was requested by the now guilty party due alleged mental health reasons. They want the supression order in place until they've had a chance fight the guilty verdict.

 

[Doggy]

I wouldn't want to be involved in SpeculatiOnS.

Don't need to. 2 minute google tells you who it is.

 

[Spiritof82]

I’m absolutely lost lol

The hints to the answer is in amoungst the various replies on p41 of this thread, you just need to read the clues in each response and then put the pieces of the puzzle together.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

The victim has gone public on tiktok saying she did not request the suppression order.

I had a look at the victims TikTok and I couldn't see anything about that.

Having said that. I have no idea how TikTok works. So may have missed it.

Because Im 105 years old.

But looking into it a little further it seems that the perpetrator is the one who requested the order on the grounds of his name becoming public prejudicing his appealing of the verdict. His mental health and the effect that it will have on his high profile family. The last point has been borne out by the vitriol spewed forth on social media towards anybody connected to his family. As if they were active participants in the crime.

How is this anything but rich daddy paying extra to keep his son's name out of the news?

It may've kept his name out of the mainstream news who understand the consequences of breaking such order.

However it hasn't stopped his name being circulated in legal, mainstream and social media circles for months now.

All the money in the world won't stop his name becoming public in time. Indeed Im surprised that its taken this long to publicly break and ultimately become a subject of conversation on this board given who he is.

Thats the power and also the limitation of suppression orders.

How does that help the victim

In the same way her name was suppressed. Until she decided to comment after the trial was concluded.

Thus letting the cat out of the bag and all but outing the perpetrator.

It seems that the verdict brought a degree of catharsis when announced, but the victim probably won't get true closure until the appeals process concludes. If at all.

I agree suppression orders do little these days but this one was requested by the now guilty party due alleged mental health reasons. They want the supression order in place until they've had a chance fight the guilty verdict.

Yes.

 

[bresker]

Suppression orders are ridiculous in the modern age. When we got our information from print media, they might have been useful. But with social media they are utterly useless if not counter-productive.

 

[grassman75]

The hints to the answer is in amoungst the various replies on p41 of this thread, you just need to read the clues in each response and then put the pieces of the puzzle together.

So, when you're near me, darling, can't you hear me?
The love you gave me, nothing else can save me,
When you're gone, how can I even try to go on?
When you're gone, though I try, how can I carry on?

 

[ossie_21]

The hints to the answer is in amoungst the various replies on p41 of this thread, you just need to read the clues in each response and then put the pieces of the puzzle together.

Got it now, I completely forgot that we had chased a certain player that just left Carlton

 

[geoffjennings79]

Enlighten us to what’s happened?

Do tell?

I’m absolutely lost lol

The now convicted offender is the third of 3 sons. Son #1 just changed clubs, son #2 used to play at the same club as son #1. Father and grandfather also played at the original club. Plus there's plenty of hints above in other posts.

I'd imagine the wider family are devastated. But twas a bit rich of the judge to give the family private time in the empty courtroom to say goodbye after conviction when most offenders are not afforded the same opportunity.

 

[BomToydd]

Given it's been an open secret for a while now it's a bit disappointing two of our best young players and another considered a future leader still follow the offender. Two of them are also from high profile families

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

How is this anything but rich daddy paying extra to keep his sons name out of the news?

Paying whom?

But twas a bit rich of the judge to give the family private time in the empty courtroom to say goodbye after conviction when most offenders are not afforded the same opportunity.

Do you know this for a fact?

Given it's been an open secret for a while now it's a bit disappointing two of our best young players and another considered a future leader still follow the offender. Two of them are also from high profile families

Perhaps they’ve forgotten. If you follow a lot of people it’s easy to lose track.

 

[weltschmerz]

Inside story: Alcohol-fuelled incident that forced Pies staffer to quit

A Collingwood staff member has resigned after an alcohol-fuelled incident.

www.sen.com.au

The Collingwood staff member embroiled in an alcohol-fuelled pre-season camp incident has been named as the club's rehabilitation manager Dean Filopoulos.


The incident, which happened at the club's Northern Territory community camp in recent weeks, led to Filopoulos resigning from his position at the club.

Filopoulos was named by News Corpin a report which claims he performed a lap dance on a member of the clubs AFLW team while under the influence of alcohol.

 

[Sentinel]

Inside story: Alcohol-fuelled incident that forced Pies staffer to quit

A Collingwood staff member has resigned after an alcohol-fuelled incident.

www.sen.com.au

“The camp was attended by all first year Collingwood players in the male and female program", so this bloke who looks to be in his 40s likely lap danced on a 19 year old girl?

 

[Dazb86]

Jamarra seems to be training well at the Suns

 

[grassman75]

Jamarra seems to be training well at the Suns

Funny what happens when you get your wage cut by three quarters

 

[ossie_21]

Inside story: Alcohol-fuelled incident that forced Pies staffer to quit

A Collingwood staff member has resigned after an alcohol-fuelled incident.

www.sen.com.au

Collingwood travelled interstate?

 

[Bulldogs85]

Tom Silvagni been found guilty of rape

293K views · 1.4K reactions | The son of a high-profile Melbourne couple has been found guilty of rape in a bombshell verdict at the County Court. He sexually assaulted a woman in his home, then used a fake Uber receipt to cover his tracks, but for

The son of a high-profile Melbourne couple has been found guilty of rape in a bombshell verdict at the County Court. He sexually assaulted a woman in his home, then used a fake Uber receipt to...

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[weltschmerz]

Tom Silvagni been found guilty of rape

293K views · 1.4K reactions | The son of a high-profile Melbourne couple has been found guilty of rape in a bombshell verdict at the County Court. He sexually assaulted a woman in his home, then used a fake Uber receipt to cover his tracks, but for

The son of a high-profile Melbourne couple has been found guilty of rape in a bombshell verdict at the County Court. He sexually assaulted a woman in his home, then used a fake Uber receipt to...

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Per the HS, the parents have sunk hundreds of grand into having the gag order enforced and trying to have it continued post-conviction

 

[Bulldogs85]

Per the HS, the parents have sunk hundreds of grand into having the gag order enforced and trying to have it continued post-conviction

With the appeal they will be spending a fair amount in lawyer fees

 

[Mojorisin]

Per the HS, the parents have sunk hundreds of grand into having the gag order enforced and trying to have it continued post-conviction

Sanity prevails with the removal of the gag order. I understand it prior to a verdict but after being found guilty there shouldn't be any avenue to get one. Obviously the victim should have the right to privacy but I personally don't see why that should extend to a person who has been found guilty, no matter how rich his daddy is.

 

[X_box_X]

Jamarra seems to be training

Wow!!!

 

[geoffjennings79]

A convicted rapist utilising a suppression order due to his mental health (yes, I know the suppression was in place prior to conviction) is an insult to all the victims of sexual assault. Pretty tone deaf by the family, their legal team and the perpetrator. Interesting that even TS's own psychologist said the suppression was unnecessary to someone with access to mental health care like TS would have, yet the family persisted with it.

 

[ossie_21]

Per the HS, the parents have sunk hundreds of grand into having the gag order enforced and trying to have it continued post-conviction

Perhaps the AFL should look into the Saints deal for Jack Silvagni and audit his accounts to see if anything is going back to mummy & daddy…

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Sanity prevails with the removal of the gag order. I understand it prior to a verdict but after being found guilty there shouldn't be any avenue to get one. Obviously the victim should have the right to privacy but I personally don't see why that should extend to a person who has been found guilty, no matter how rich his daddy is.

Why? He's entitled to presumption of innocence until proven guilty by a group of his peers. Which he was last Friday.

That it took a further 6 days to lift the order after conviction is not a reflection of his families influence or wealth. It's a consequence of court scheduling. Which due to its often archaic practices was always going to be outrun by social media. This is borne out by the fact that Tom Silvangnis name has been openly circulating as the defendant in this case for months.

It's just in the last few days that it finally broke into the wider public realm. And teh pile onto a family that did nothing more than defend their son began. Now they have to deal with the fact that unless the verdict is overturned on appeal that their son is a rapist.

 

[Mojorisin]

Why? He's entitled to presumption of innocence until proven guilty by a group of his peers. Which he was last Friday.

That it took a further 6 days to lift the order after conviction is not a reflection of his families influence or wealth. It's a consequence of court scheduling. Which due to its often archaic practices was always going to be outrun by social media. This is borne out by the fact that Tom Silvangnis name has been openly circulating as the defendant in this case for months.

It's just in the last few days that it finally broke into the wider public realm. And teh pile onto a family that did nothing more than defend their son began. Now they have to deal with the fact that unless the verdict is overturned on appeal that their son is a rapist.

Originally it was meant to stand for a further 3 months. I agree 100% a person facing trial for such accusations deserves anonymity and in this case it was lifted as it should be. I also agree you can't judge his brothers, parents or family as a whole for the terrible things he has done nor for trying to give him the best lawyers possible, he has put them in a very tricky position.
My comments were more leveled at the system then those in this case, the avenue to get an extension on a gag order for crimes like this, once found guilty shouldn't exist. The fact it took media pressure and the victim going to social media for that gag order to be given up on is pretty sad.

I wouldn't wish any of these outcomes on any family rich, poor or otherwise. It is just a sad reality that families are often left negatively perceived by the broader community when one member is the issue.