Religion Bondi shooting - 16 confirmed dead at Jewish event

[The Punter]

Problem is the messages in religious texts contradict themselves, especially in regard to treating people equally, and many religious people choose the less tolerant version.

Which is why I tend to exclusively quote Jesus of Nazareth, without whom there would be no Christians.

 

[Bloods86]

Open your eyes.

Why dance around with allusions to a problem and not state the solution if it's so simple?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Just speculation? Care to provide a source?

 

[Bloods86]

Which is why I tend to exclusively quote Jesus of Nazareth, without whom there would be no Christians.

You can do that. Intellectually honestly too, as long as it's not pretended that it sums up Christianity.

 

[Festerz]

Just put them on ignore like I did

Done.

Often thought that BF should have a rule about only allowing those who have participated in a thread within a certain period be allowed to make stand alone emoji responses to the detailed comments of others.

Because posting an emoji response to someone else's comment without ever having the courage to make a comment yourself like Hawthorn1971 , MotlopRules and others do regularly in politics threads just seems like a idiotic dipstick thing to do.

 

[nut]

I clicked on the picture and it didn't lead me to any source on how the US trains ISIS members. Trump is a disgrace.

You are completely unable to live up to the standards you are meant to be upholding on this site.

I’ve already provided you with links US training ISIS and other terrorist groups

 

[Not Important]

what should be a solemn time, mourning those victims and praising the hero is being weaponised by the zionists. dispiriting, but not surprising

The lobby is milking the Bondi Beach attack to silence critics of Israel's genocide

It is years of dedicated work by the Israel lobby that has ensured the mass murder of Palestinians is viewed by governments, the media and parts of the Jewish community as entirely legitimate

jonathancook.substack.com

Israel weaponises Bondi Beach massacre

The correct response to violence in fact to consistently oppose violence, not the opposite

www.owenjones.news

 

[Not Important]

beautifully put.

 

[Not Important]

 

[Saint]

Of courses it’s relevant … so is any person holding an ISIS flag or a Nazi flag.
Is supporting a genocide ok?

No one deserves to die…

The terrorists didn't know this, they were killing a civilian. And even if they did know it, doesn't give them the right to execute somebody.

 

[RCAB]

Can we shelve the immigration talk for the appropriate thread? It doesn't seem relevant here

The immigration talk is completely "relevant" and also totally irrelevant at the same time.

 

[Saint]

Which is why I tend to exclusively quote Jesus of Nazareth, without whom there would be no Christians.

Well, you're quoting somebody who was quoting what he said many years later. The odds of it being an exact quote are minimal.

 

[Balls In]

This take is so stupid, if we had a Zionist government that supported Israel and their false equivalence of criticism of Israel = antisemitism, the problem would be even worse. Israel and Netanyahu are directly responsible for rising antisemitism.

Blaming Albo for not being pro-Israel enough completely misunderstands the conditions and attitudes that lead to extremist views being developed.

It's Israels fault those Australian jews were slaughtered in Australia? FMD.

Can anyone link me to one statement of Albanese condemning Islamic extremism in the wake of these atrocities, I have seen none.

He is despicable;

From News.com

Official transcripts show the Prime Minister spoke a total of 5022 words in press conferences, interviews and statements in the day after the suspected ISIS-inspired terror attack on a Jewish festival that left 15 innocents dead and 42 injured.

In that time, Mr Albanese did not once say the words “Muslim”, “Islam” or “Islamic extremism”. The PM instead spoke only of anti-Semitism, violent extremism and even twice raised threat of “right wing extremist groups”.

 

[Saint]

Read the post.

Mass Muslim immigration to the West does not work. It really is that simple.

Western governments can either do something about that, or they can continue to do nothing and stick their heads in the sand.

Is that quoting Jesus of Nazareth or the Christchurch shooter? Oh, it's the latter.

You're saying Islam is bad because they might have similar ideas to these terrorists.

And you used the same excuse as the Christchurch terrorist to do it.

Sit and have a think.

 

[nut]

The terrorists didn't know this, they were killing a civilian. And even if they did know it, doesn't give them the right to execute somebody.

He may have been targeted by the terrorists… it was an organised event.
And I agree he doesn’t deserve to die….

 

[Bloods86]

Read the post.

Mass Muslim immigration to the West does not work. It really is that simple.

Western governments can either do something about that, or they can continue to do nothing and stick their heads in the sand.

You claimed to know a simple solution.

I asked what it was.

Your response and this subsequent response did not state a solution.

Open your eyes.

 

[The Punter]

I’ve already provided you with links US training ISIS and other terrorist groups

The link you provided to me did not mention the Philippines, which was the original suggestion.

 

[schneebly111]

In that time, Mr Albanese did not once say the words “Muslim”, “Islam” or “Islamic extremism”. The PM instead spoke only of anti-Semitism, violent extremism and even twice raised threat of “right wing extremist groups”.

He didn’t say “Islam” or “Muslim” as was talking about the actions of two individuals as a whole not the entire community. He also said the attacked had “Islamic State” ideology which is another way of saying “Islamic extremism”

Your gatekeeping is ridiculous

 

[The Punter]

Well, you're quoting somebody who was quoting what he said many years later. The odds of it being an exact quote are minimal.

This is an argument against quoting any 2000 year old source. Historians are satisfied Jesus of Nazareth existed, and we have a number of texts claiming to quote him directly.

 

[Festerz]

 

[faible]

Historians are satisfied Jesus of Nazareth existed

Less satisfied he's what Christians him claim to be. Faith is called Faith for a reason.

 

[bourbons]

Unlike Labor, who stand for Islamic extremism (or at least do not stand against it).

Ok grandpa, as always eventually happens in these types of discussions you've reached your shrill, emotional and hysterical endpoint.

Time for bed.

 

[Bloods86]

He didn’t say “Islam” or “Muslim” as was talking about the actions of two individuals as a whole not the entire community. He also said the attacked had “Islamic State” ideology which is another way of saying “Islamic extremism”

Your gatekeeping is ridiculous

He used "Islamic State", "terrorist atrocity" and talked about radicalisation to an "extreme position".

But it won't be good enough. Some would only be placated if he'd jumped on X immediately upon hearing the news and started blasting Muslim Australians and the entire religion, although obviously it wouldn't placate them.

 

[faible]

I mean we are posting on a site with predominantly Greens voters who gives a shit what these posters think and say, some fools have even admitted going to pro Palestinian marches wonder how many of them joined in with the racist chants , on here acting like they care what happened at Bondi, the only remorse is it was done by a couple of unhinged radical Muslims.

So nice of you to come out of the woodwork.

 

[bourbons]

Sorry, but that isn't normal. Dare I say it sounds... Extremist.

FlowersByIrene is one of the most extreme, hysterical, hate filled individuals I've ever come across on these boards.

The fact he sees himself as some kind of clear eyed philosophical rationalist is equal parts hilarious and sad.