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There is only 3 there that I would consider Banks,Langford & Curtain.
Personally I think Culley might be a good pick and if he gets CBAs in pre season I might start him.
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There is only 3 there that I would consider Banks,Langford & Curtain.
Personally I think Culley might be a good pick and if he gets CBAs in pre season I might start him.
Weddle - Could be good if gets time on ball
Freijah - Could be good if gets time on ball
JHF - Pretty sure he's injured
Wines - Games gone past him to slow and inside
Oliver - Big option will need to see P/S and OR games
Durham - no value at 488k can't see him being a 105-110 avg guy
Archie Roberts - no value at 452k solid player but don't see where an extra 10-15ppg comes from
Peatling - Disappointed last year when he was 100k cheaper
Drew - See Wines
Banks - Can see him being solid however with Bergman and Kerch at similar prices makes it hard
Rayner - Never been consistent in his near 10 years of AFL
Wardlaw - Injury prone
Curtin - Could be good if gets time on ball
Harvey Langford -Could be good if gets time on ball
DBJ - Small defensive forward
Erasmus - Wing (scoring not consistent)
Darcy Wilson - Wing (scoring not consistent)
Angus Clarke - Average scoring
Kako - Small forward
Watson - Small forward
Sonsie - Small forward
I think Freijah pending role (either half back or on ball more) could also be a shout 7 tons last year with another 2 in the 90s if he can raise his floor 7 under 60 to around a 70 he could be a great POD up forward with options looking poor anyway
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If Bonts ownership is low, I’ll be starting him.
Even if he does drop $40-50k early, you need a lot of things to line up. 2-3 fatten rookies and some new rookies coming in or you’re just swapping a premo with him.
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Can't see Weddle on ball. Good chance to push up to the wing next year, but that's such a hit and miss SC role.
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Bergman is trap
How is Bergman a trap?
Carr wants him on ball and has said so, In his 6 games with 50%+ CBAs he scored 104/104/128/117/121/76 for an average of 108
He will take some of Drew and Wines CBAs from this year and then throw in the fact JHF isn't fit seems a pretty easy pick at the price for me
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Good work replying to each player, also with adding notes on each player.
You did more work than me. As I just pulled some names from my caboose.
What I was trying to promote was bigger lists of possible midpricers instead of single player analysis.
So far my team looks like it could be very close to a template team come March.
With midpricer picks like these
DEF: Fletcher, McKercher, Bergman and Kiddy - Have thrown Rozee into midfield and then two rookies onfield.
MIDS: Just Young and Parish, close watch on preseason injuries/training reports. 3 top end Premiums plus I have slid one into flex, haven’t looked at byes. What I have been focusing on is rookie reports and trying to get all of them right first, no matter their cost.
RUCKS: Wait and see how new rules work. Could be a line I go cheaper on or find players that can get points around the ground instead of just taps to advantage.
FWDS: Midprice goldfield or landmines, not sure which yet.
All players onfield have played senior footy but most have injury history.
Everyone will own Flanders coz Hen’s like Roosters, Geese like Ganders, everyone else loves Ned Flanders.
Sam Draper pops up until he is ruled out, needing more time to recover from injury, Treloar feels worth the risk and finish line off with Marshall and Robertson, both at rookie prices so if they get 60’s to 70’s thats good enough.
All my onfield or bench rookies are placeholders but are mainly top end picks with the exclusion of Duursma, who might be too light weight for AFL at the moment.
Breakdown count is:
7 Premo’s
9 Midpricers
2 Rookie priced Senior players and,
5 Onfield rookies.
Season objective is getting rookies right first then building team up around them.
Midpricer picks must have proven they can score over 100.
Premo picks based off of highest possible averages with least sub 100 scores over last 2 seasons. Also age profile and possible scoring stealer’s they are playing along with considered.
At the moment I would like more midpricers but my list of rookies on must have list is pretty long, some MP’s may become rookies in final team.
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Essendon only I’d say the list is Ridley, Parish, Caldwell, Johnson, Tsatsas caddy, Langford plus whoever out of Bryan/Blakistan is starting ruck.
Would stay away from the other mentioned options
7 premos is pretty low to go into a season and needing trade math to work.
Would recommend culling 1-2 Ubers for some regular premiums with upside.
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Also I think people are sleeping on Oscar Allen. Priced about 334k going to have some big games in that Brisbane forward line could be a huge money maker.
They have a 5 week stretch after their bye that includes North, Melbourne, Essendon and Carlton
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Second go at this. Got rid of a few of the 400k types. Managed to fit in NAS.
Feel much better about this structure. Potentially up to 20 keepers if a few high draft rookies hit. (Jagga and Uwland most likely)
Second go at this. Got rid of a few of the 400k types. Managed to fit in NAS.
Feel much better about this structure. Potentially up to 20 keepers if a few high draft rookies hit. (Jagga and Uwland most likely)
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gave an mpm team a crack..
v4.2.0
one uber premo on each line, except my two value rucks.
harley reid, sheldrick and ollie florent are a few I think are 500k price capable.
v4.2.0
one uber premo on each line, except my two value rucks.
harley reid, sheldrick and ollie florent are a few I think are 500k price capable.
Nth Melb supporters - Cooper Trembath looked really good late in the season. What are his chances of holding a place in the 23?
Like it!
Outside of Bryan (injured) but could go CDT and Reidy combo at R2/3 and an Oliver/Steele over Taranto and Langford over Florent but can't fault the rest
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The problem with Oscar is his knee wont get better. It's a big gamble.
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I really like Bergman and rivers (especially if he plays mainly midfield) and i can see the sheldrick pick working.
De goey is a gamble because of his injuries but it could work.
But id stay well away from sean Darcy with the new ruck rules. You couldn't pay me to pick him.
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Why Toranto over Trac?
By my count, the measure I use to count Premo’s, your team here has only 7 Premo’s.
I have skipped NWM as I think more midfield time may not be as good as his half-back role. See Sinclair as a point pincher there. And others in the Saints to increase their output. Give him half a season to adjust then he might be settled into role.
Rucks I have gone Jackson and English over MaXerri, cost too much for those two with fewer projected ruck contests. I expect a 15 point plus per game drop off. I am going for the guys who can jump and kick goals. May shift but need to see rule changes affects.
Mids I think a team needs 4 Premo’s starting even if they are DPP and can slide in another line, 3 is a minimum, every man and his dog will have Butters and I would take Bont, Naicos at the start over just Gulden. ( who is a jet and should increase averages but lots of mouths to feed at Sydney).
Your forward line is stronger, maybe two picks heavier in MP’s over my 4 rookie priced players. I have started Reidy at F8 as I think he could play and have gone Vigo Visentini at R3 until word about Bryans full recovery is announced.
Flexibility is paramount to my starting side. I have a few D/M’s especially rookies and a few F/M’s along with 2 R/F’s in side. Doing this I can easily slide any player especially highest averaging rookie to the Flex spot, but my plan midseason will for it to end up being either a Mid or a Ruck. Starting Naicos there to be good coverage over fielded rookies.
Please note this is less a critique on your side more a view of my early door thoughts and plans for the season and your team has just been picked out as a comparison nothing personal about it. Except maybe the 7 Premo’s when by my count you have only 7 as well. Keepers it is just too early to judge and know and count.
Have a happy new year everyone.
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Honestly I love the feedback and think pulling apart and putting back together teams is part of the fun of the offseason.
In terms of Keepers my criteria has me at 10.
I’m guessing the difference is your definition doesn’t include Flanders, Mckertcher and Draper.
For me I’m counting them as keepers because at that price point the only way they can be successful picks (make 100-150k you’d expect a cash cow to make)is if they become keepers. I do agree there’s a good deal of risk there. with Flanders and Mckertcher I view them as fallen premiums having had a previous history of premium scoring in their expected roles.
Draper. It’s more about Ruck cover. Plus just the expectation that tapping to the lions mids will elevate his scoring and he might snag a goal or two a game resting forward on the best team in the comp.
Agree on NAS think could be a trap but don’t want to risk it. Overall I think starting a structure with some more expensive players gives you wiggle room down if you need it. Same with Gawn/Xerri.
As far as premium mids go. I’m going to disagree with you there. I always go light on that line. Think there’s too much point per dollar value in midpricers and rookies to go to heavy there at season start. With the 2 uber rucks and Butters + Sheezel I have 4 captain options I’m happy with.
I also expect some of the midpricers to fail and when that happens 2 will likely turn into Will Ashcroft and a rookie filling out the mids
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not sure how trac fits in at GC yet. also, the early bye doesnt help. taranto has the ability to provide value at his price (along with the likes of LDU, cripps and walsh).
Thought a new year, (Happy new year everyone, hope you all smash 2026) deserves a new team post.
So here it is.
So far I have a few concerns.
1. Is injury proned Midpricers.
A few on some lines.
Fwds: Draper and Treloar
MIds: Young and Parish
Def: Kiddy Coleman.
Plus side is these guys price point provide huge value for upside’s, bad is the type of injuries have longer recovery time and higher chance of reoccurrence.
Rookies I have spent up especially bench and would spend more to take a chance on Dean and Duursma if I could find the cash.
Zero early trade dollars, $400 ITB has me worried as only correction trades will be downgrades. May have to sacrifice some players, probably early bye types to other options. Will analyse later.
Midpricers picked I feel reasonably confident are ready for next step in scoring, but don’t think they will step into top 8-10 in their lines.
This means trade countback is always on my mind.
Midpricers should be just one up, one down trades to premiums. Easy early season fix in rounds 6-14.
Rookie priced players I always allow 3 trades, one up, two down to become fallen Premo’s at $500k-$550k. This is always hard as timing and BE’s dictate when to use a Boost to cull a flock of rookies.
Most value is during bye rounds for trades as Premo’s have dropped more cash by then. But this can be too late as points can be lost to other sides taking more risks.
So Rookie upgrades may become a two step upgrade, first to a breakout midpricer who I missed and there are usually a few who come from low percentage ownership that catch us off guard.
Then move up to a proven Premo.
Problem with this strategy is it them becomes a 4 trade manoeuvre.
My team has 7 Rookie priced players if I tried this with all of them that is 28 trades. If I take away my 3 Trade boost upgrades that reduces down to 23 if 5 boosts are available again.
So 23 trades on rookies is starting point of problem as only 7 are upgrades and 16 are downgrades will there be 16 worthwhile rookie priced players who come from the clouds. These numbers feel unlikely meaning higher chance for a finished side with a dead bench.
The next part of trade counting is critical as with 23 trades gone and 9 midpricers needing two trades to upgrade equals another 18 trades.
That takes count to 41 trades.
Add in another 4-6 correction trades plus 4-6 long term injury trades if a Premo goes down (4 plus weeks).
I need 53 trades in total.
So reality hits.
To be more successful I need to:
1. Have the right starting Premo’s who go through season injury free.
2. I need to hit all early door rookies, targeting the bottom 6 teams from last season meaning getting more expensive rookies seems like a higher chance of getting early games.
3. Some, probably 4-6 Midpricers need to become keepers. To reduce trade count. My tolerance is 5-10 point average below top 10 in each line. Easiest lines for this is forwards then defenders. Hardest is Mids and Rucks.
4. This is always the hardest point in the game to find, I call them the Rookie Priced Season Long Keepers.
There are sometimes we get lucky enough to find a rookie whose scoring goes somewhere from 75-100 PPG. I am sure some SuperCoach historians know who these guys have been. From recent memory [PLAYERCARD]Will Brodie[/PLAYERCARD], Zach Reid before imjuries, there are probably 10-15 over the past 8 seasons who started at prices below $250k who got this rare medal of honour.
My strategy is to luck upon or trade into riskily early these players once they show their metal. Correction trades before round 5, hopefully after their byes if they have one.
As long as their averages remain above or around 80, I plan to keep as permanent bench coverage and trade around them. Or worst case option sideways trade them last.
Too many seasons I have fallen off after the byes with too few trades and end up with late season donuts, so while some teams are scoring 2600 plus I am lucky to get 2400.
I want to join the top 1000 club. That is always my aim. So I have to do something different than what I usually do and most of it is centred around my use of trades.
So here it is.
So far I have a few concerns.
1. Is injury proned Midpricers.
A few on some lines.
Fwds: Draper and Treloar
MIds: Young and Parish
Def: Kiddy Coleman.
Plus side is these guys price point provide huge value for upside’s, bad is the type of injuries have longer recovery time and higher chance of reoccurrence.
Rookies I have spent up especially bench and would spend more to take a chance on Dean and Duursma if I could find the cash.
Zero early trade dollars, $400 ITB has me worried as only correction trades will be downgrades. May have to sacrifice some players, probably early bye types to other options. Will analyse later.
Midpricers picked I feel reasonably confident are ready for next step in scoring, but don’t think they will step into top 8-10 in their lines.
This means trade countback is always on my mind.
Midpricers should be just one up, one down trades to premiums. Easy early season fix in rounds 6-14.
Rookie priced players I always allow 3 trades, one up, two down to become fallen Premo’s at $500k-$550k. This is always hard as timing and BE’s dictate when to use a Boost to cull a flock of rookies.
Most value is during bye rounds for trades as Premo’s have dropped more cash by then. But this can be too late as points can be lost to other sides taking more risks.
So Rookie upgrades may become a two step upgrade, first to a breakout midpricer who I missed and there are usually a few who come from low percentage ownership that catch us off guard.
Then move up to a proven Premo.
Problem with this strategy is it them becomes a 4 trade manoeuvre.
My team has 7 Rookie priced players if I tried this with all of them that is 28 trades. If I take away my 3 Trade boost upgrades that reduces down to 23 if 5 boosts are available again.
So 23 trades on rookies is starting point of problem as only 7 are upgrades and 16 are downgrades will there be 16 worthwhile rookie priced players who come from the clouds. These numbers feel unlikely meaning higher chance for a finished side with a dead bench.
The next part of trade counting is critical as with 23 trades gone and 9 midpricers needing two trades to upgrade equals another 18 trades.
That takes count to 41 trades.
Add in another 4-6 correction trades plus 4-6 long term injury trades if a Premo goes down (4 plus weeks).
I need 53 trades in total.
So reality hits.
To be more successful I need to:
1. Have the right starting Premo’s who go through season injury free.
2. I need to hit all early door rookies, targeting the bottom 6 teams from last season meaning getting more expensive rookies seems like a higher chance of getting early games.
3. Some, probably 4-6 Midpricers need to become keepers. To reduce trade count. My tolerance is 5-10 point average below top 10 in each line. Easiest lines for this is forwards then defenders. Hardest is Mids and Rucks.
4. This is always the hardest point in the game to find, I call them the Rookie Priced Season Long Keepers.
There are sometimes we get lucky enough to find a rookie whose scoring goes somewhere from 75-100 PPG. I am sure some SuperCoach historians know who these guys have been. From recent memory [PLAYERCARD]Will Brodie[/PLAYERCARD], Zach Reid before imjuries, there are probably 10-15 over the past 8 seasons who started at prices below $250k who got this rare medal of honour.
My strategy is to luck upon or trade into riskily early these players once they show their metal. Correction trades before round 5, hopefully after their byes if they have one.
As long as their averages remain above or around 80, I plan to keep as permanent bench coverage and trade around them. Or worst case option sideways trade them last.
Too many seasons I have fallen off after the byes with too few trades and end up with late season donuts, so while some teams are scoring 2600 plus I am lucky to get 2400.
I want to join the top 1000 club. That is always my aim. So I have to do something different than what I usually do and most of it is centred around my use of trades.
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Don’t need it to get better.
Best case 12 weeks of premium scoring and swap to a rd 12 premium mid in 1 trade
Optimistic: is 500k at week 8 and helps get an uber mid
Okay: gets to 400k and is ready for an early upgrade to a post bye premo
Worst: injured before a price rises/stays at 300k ish and cash out to a rookie for 150k and have my first upgrade ready to go plus one of the good cheap early rookies
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Starting a KPF at $317k makes no sense with so many good rookie price options and better midpricers as well around that price. Add to this Allen has the Round 2 bye so he won't play his 3rd game until Round 3 and you will miss the 1st and normally the biggest price rise from any good rookie you may have missed.
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For me it’s about the post bye schedule.
Saints, pies, North, Melbourne Adelaide Essendon Carlton.
kPF vs that run of teams on the best team in the comp. Think he goes huge enough times to generate some good cash.
Few best 18 weeks there also mitigate the risk somewhat if he has a low score
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