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Opinion AUSTRALIAN Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 6

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Kane McGoodwin said:
This needs to be reviewed properly, which will take time.

Do you think it's appropriate that law enforcement agencies are excluded from any review... because that is why they don't want a Royal Commission! Suggests cover up of incompetence to me.

I mean seriously how hard is it to database match persons of interest to travelling to dodgy countries...

If the Government come up with a narrow terms of reference, they will get smashed in the media, like they are at the moment for refusing a Royal Commission.

BTW, I have been critical of Israeli government... & it's disgusting Benji was blaming Albanese, when his government's actions killing tens of thousands of innocent people was likely the biggest factor in innocent Australian Jews being murdered.
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The government will get smashed irrespective, just look at the pile on now.

I’m sorry but this is politically motivated by the MSM and their willing supporters, Coalition, business leaders and various religious bodies.

Albanese will hold his ground the NSW will have its Royal Commission, the government will undertake its review of the agencies.

You want to waste probably somewhere in the vicinity of $300m then a national RC will achieve it. We probably already know the reasons this happened.
 
kirky said:
The government will get smashed irrespective, just look at the pile on now.

I’m sorry but this is politically motivated by the MSM and their willing supporters, Coalition, business leaders and various religious bodies.

Albanese will hold his ground the NSW will have its Royal Commission, the government will undertake its review of the agencies.

You want to waste probably somewhere in the vicinity of $300m then a national RC will achieve it. We probably already know the reasons this happened.
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We already know the reasons for the ASIO/AFP failures?

Please tell as they are wanting to avoid any review... which suggests cover up.

Do we need better national gun laws, with a considered rather than reactionary response?
 
kirky said:
The government will get smashed irrespective, just look at the pile on now.

I’m sorry but this is politically motivated by the MSM and their willing supporters, Coalition, business leaders and various religious bodies.

Albanese will hold his ground the NSW will have its Royal Commission, the government will undertake its review of the agencies.

You want to waste probably somewhere in the vicinity of $300m then a national RC will achieve it. We probably already know the reasons this happened.
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You do realise none of this would be occurring, the politicising ect ...which any political party would be taking advantage of, IF the Govt had just done their job

Anyone with half a brain would have seen a Bondi type scenario occurring at some stage .....it's been happening overseas, it was always eventually going to happen in Australia .....enough time for the Govt and authorities to get their house in order

It was plainly ineptitude by Albo ....the guy is seriously dumb ....I mean the guy has never been bright, exampled by his original campaign and not knowing basic facts about the economic conditions

I'll criticise anyone who does dumb things .....being on one side or the other of the political spectrum, doesn't excuse ineptitude
 

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kirky said:
The government will get smashed irrespective, just look at the pile on now.

I’m sorry but this is politically motivated by the MSM and their willing supporters, Coalition, business leaders and various religious bodies.

Albanese will hold his ground the NSW will have its Royal Commission, the government will undertake its review of the agencies.

You want to waste probably somewhere in the vicinity of $300m then a national RC will achieve it. We probably already know the reasons this happened.
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Yeah, everyone calling for it is biased, fair dinkum, stop being such a Labor stooge. Only one side is politically motivated and that’s Labor and its fanbois.
 
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WaynesWorld19 said:
You do realise none of this would be occurring, the politicising ect ...which any political party would be taking advantage of, IF the Govt had just done their job

Anyone with half a brain would have seen a Bondi type scenario occurring at some stage .....it's been happening overseas, it was always eventually going to happen in Australia .....enough time for the Govt and authorities to get their house in order

It was plainly ineptitude by Albo ....the guy is seriously dumb ....I mean the guy has never been bright, exampled by his original campaign and not knowing basic facts about the economic conditions

I'll criticise anyone who does dumb things .....being on one side or the other of the political spectrum, doesn't excuse ineptitude
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Oh here we go, all knowing Waynes World.

A Bondi type scenario was always going to occur? Yes, easy say it in hindsight as your invariably do most of the time, no matter the subject.

“the guy is seriously dumb” - yep, wins 94 seats (equal most wins in a federal election - equal to 1996), the biggest 2PP since 1975. If he is “seriously dumb”, what does that make the Australian public and what does that make the Opposition?

The events since October 7th 2023 have increased the level of antisemitism, the gun laws need to be tightened further, ASIO and Federal Police have questions to answer.
 
WaynesWorld19 said:
You do realise none of this would be occurring, the politicising ect ...which any political party would be taking advantage of, IF the Govt had just done their job

Anyone with half a brain would have seen a Bondi type scenario occurring at some stage .....it's been happening overseas, it was always eventually going to happen in Australia .....enough time for the Govt and authorities to get their house in order

It was plainly ineptitude by Albo ....the guy is seriously dumb ....I mean the guy has never been bright, exampled by his original campaign and not knowing basic facts about the economic conditions

I'll criticise anyone who does dumb things .....being on one side or the other of the political spectrum, doesn't excuse ineptitude
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A post I like of yours, must be the New Year
 
kirky said:
Oh here we go, all knowing Waynes World.

A Bondi type scenario was always going to occur? Yes, easy say it in hindsight as your invariably do most of the time, no matter the subject.

“the guy is seriously dumb” - yep, wins 94 seats (equal most wins in a federal election - equal to 1996), the biggest 2PP since 1975. If he is “seriously dumb”, what does that make the Australian public and what does that make the Opposition?

The events since October 7th 2023 have increased the level of antisemitism, the gun laws need to be tightened further, ASIO and Federal Police have questions to answer.
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Given the record no of anti-semiticism attacks and the bile spewing from hate preachers, hiding behind hindsight is pathetic
 
George CantStandYa said:
Yeah, everyone calling for it is biased, fair dinkum, stop being such a Labor stooge. Only one side is politically motivated and that’s Labor and its fanbois.
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Yes, lets wait for 2-3 years and then more time for the recommendations to be implemented.

I’ll the legal list and the business list with a grain of salt thank you very much. For example, James Packer? Yeh, dig a bit further on him, very interesting.

And the party you support has been utterly disgraceful. No bipartisanship like previous incidents, Port Arthur, Lindt Cafe etc under Coalition watch so don’t take the high road with that thank you very much.
 
George CantStandYa said:
Given the record no of anti-semiticism attacks and the bile spewing from hate preachers, hiding behind hindsight is pathetic
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Why do you think there has been a rise in antisemitism worldwide the last two or so years?

And do you think the attacks on muslim worship places since Dec 14th is appropriate?
 
kirky said:
Yes, lets wait for 2-3 years and then more time for the recommendations to be implemented.

I’ll the legal list and the business list with a grain of salt thank you very much. For example, James Packer? Yeh, dig a bit further on him, very interesting.

And the party you support has been utterly disgraceful. No bipartisanship like previous incidents, Port Arthur, Lindt Cafe etc under Coalition watch so don’t take the high road with that thank you very much.
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cmon the length of time is a cop out. Albos “review” doesn’t look at the governments role.

Yeah it’s just not billionaires are calling for this.

There were warning signs which the government ignored, they need to answer for it but they are too afraid to be reviewed, why do you reckon that is?

And this is nothing like those other incidents. Stop reading from the Labor propaganda
 
kirky said:
Why do you think there has been a rise in antisemitism worldwide the last two or so years?

And do you think the attacks on muslim worship places since Dec 14th is appropriate?
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Irrelevant as to what Labors done to stop the attacks here and you know it.

Why are you afraid for them?
 
George CantStandYa said:
cmon the length of time is a cop out. Albos “review” doesn’t look at the governments role.

Yeah it’s just not billionaires are calling for this.

There were warning signs which the government ignored, they need to answer for it but they are too afraid to be reviewed, why do you reckon that is?

And this is nothing like those other incidents. Stop reading from the Labor propaganda
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I’m sorry, 36 people dying at Port Arthur? You are warped.
 

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George CantStandYa said:
Irrelevant as to what Labors done to stop the attacks here and you know it.

Why are you afraid for them?
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Yes, I’m Left Wing and you are Right Wing. We won’t ever agree.

Because those attacks are due to one party politicising it.

Got it?

Thanks.

You do get it that ISIS and Islam are not the same. If not, educate yourself.
 
kirky said:
“the guy is seriously dumb” - yep, wins 94 seats (equal most wins in a federal election - equal to 1996), the biggest 2PP since 1975. If he is “seriously dumb”, what does that make the Australian public and what does that make the Opposition?
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A political party winning an election, cannot equate to the intelligence or otherwise of any member of that party .....that's a foolish position to take

Each person's intelligence level has to be evaluated on their own personal utterings, ability to do the job, and importantly, decision making

On all fronts, Albo has shown ineptitude .....and remember, many times, such as Biden winning the American Presidency in 2020 ....it's moreso these days' dissatisfaction with the incumbent President / Prime Minister, than it is with the opposition actually winning on merit ....those days appear over

There's no doubt there was a huge anti-Morrison component to Albo's initial win ....then, as it is now, the Libs simply cannot be an effective alternative ..... I'm not sure who's more inept, Albo or Ley

The fact Hanson has skyrocketed in popularity, says a lot about the state of Australian Politics
 
WaynesWorld19 said:
A political party winning an election, cannot equate to the intelligence or otherwise of any member of that party .....that's a foolish position to take

Each person's intelligence level has to be evaluated on their own personal utterings, ability to do the job, and importantly, decision making

On all fronts, Albo has shown ineptitude .....and remember, many times, such as Biden winning the American Presidency in 2020 ....it's moreso these days' dissatisfaction with the incumbent President / Prime Minister, than it is with the opposition actually winning on merit ....those days appear over

There's no doubt there was a huge anti-Morrison component to Albo's initial win ....then, as it is now, the Libs simply cannot be an effective alternative ..... I'm not sure who's more inept, Albo or Ley

The fact Hanson has skyrocketed in popularity, says a lot about the state of Australian Politics
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The rise of Hanson shows how stupid individuals can be and how racist etc they can be.
 
kirky said:
Yes, I’m Left Wing and you are Right Wing. We won’t ever agree.

Because those attacks are due to one party politicising it.

Got it?

Thanks.

You do get it that ISIS and Islam are not the same. If not, educate yourself.
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You didn’t answer, what are you and Labor afraid of?
 

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George CantStandYa said:
That wasn’t a terrorist attack, it was a psychopath.

What are Labor and you afraid of?

You’ve got a larger number of the community wanting this, except Labor and their fanbois.
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Not afraid of anything, nothing to be afraid of at all.

Ok so what do you think Albo is afraid of by not calling a RC?

And there are number of high profile individuals not seeing the need for a RC either. So there you go.
 
kirky said:
Not afraid of anything, nothing to be afraid of at all.

Ok so what do you think Albo is afraid of by not calling a RC?

And there are number of high profile individuals not seeing the need for a RC either. So there you go.
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He’s reviewing every element bar the government, so you do the Maths.

But if you need it spelt out for you, not doing enough to halt antisemitism.
 
kirky said:
The rise of Hanson shows how stupid individuals can be and how racist etc they can be.
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We are heading down the same path as the US. The left are so far down their rabbit hole and won’t eat humble pie. The general population are so fed up that they would rather vote for a lunatic on the right.
 
cm_perfect said:
We are heading down the same path as the US. The left are so far down their rabbit hole and won’t eat humble pie. The general population are so fed up that they would rather vote for a lunatic on the right.
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Sensible people actually admire someone getting up, and saying "we stuffed up" in roundabout words .....""but we're going to fix it now"

Versus .....head in the sand, and PR 101, deny, deny, deny .....IMO ALL Politicians are institutionalised to play from a particular handbook ...."this is how the book says to handle crisis management"

Given all of Hanson's lunatic statements over the years .....her frankness, her unpreparedness to play from the Politician Handbook, is resonating with people who have had a gutfull of both sides of traditional politics .....they're sick of political speak
 
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