Player Watch #33 Caiden Cleary

[McRobie]

At least this year he’ll be engaging with a more appropriate form of Charlie.

This post needs more love.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

This post needs more love.

The Swans’ board is a tough audience.

 

[Kiama Chris]

The Swans’ board is a tough audience.

"What have you done lately?"

 

[rustycrate]

I reckon Caiden is on notice.

The question "What have you done lately?" could very much apply to him.
Corey, Kyle, Phil, Cootee, King, Adams, Lloyd, they are all looking for a gig.

Caiden better have his nose clean. Not much difference between half a chance and half a season.

 

[zyzzbruh]

I reckon Caiden is on notice.

The question "What have you done lately?" could very much apply to him.
Corey, Kyle, Phil, Cootee, King, Adams, Lloyd, they are all looking for a gig.

Caiden better have his nose clean. Not much difference between half a chance and half a season.

He looks in ripping knick to be fair. My worry with Cleary and a few others in his position is that they seem to be pegs that can fit into many holes, but not exceptional enough in a particular position to actually replace a mainstay 22 player to cement their spot.

To make things worse his types are getting the odd pinch hit as high half/small forwards which is a prick of a role to play, it almost claimed the career of Wicks. Something has to give for these guys to have a future at the club.

Genuinely, who is at risk of being replaced in our midfield in the next 2-3 years? Rowbum maybe, although he seems to be refusing to give it up. Maybe Warner if he decides to leave? but even if he did you'd expect the club to use his funds to find a top tier replacement. Cleary is a mid, the question is how does he get in there.

 

[Kiama Chris]

He looks in ripping knick to be fair. My worry with Cleary and a few others in his position is that they seem to be pegs that can fit into many holes, but not exceptional enough in a particular position to actually replace a mainstay 22 player to cement their spot.

To make things worse his types are getting the odd pinch hit as high half/small forwards which is a prick of a role to play, it almost claimed the career of Wicks. Something has to give for these guys to have a future at the club.

Genuinely, who is at risk of being replaced in our midfield in the next 2-3 years? Rowbum maybe, although he seems to be refusing to give it up. Maybe Warner if he decides to leave? but even if he did you'd expect the club to use his funds to find a top tier replacement. Cleary is a mid, the question is how does he get in there.

He needs to burn it up in his best role in the Ressies. Put the pressure on.
Inside mod first hands distribution
Two way running
Hard tackling
The skill set he showed at 18 is still highly desirable. He should be trying to get past Rowie and Gus on performance but needs to be playing mids to demonstrate.

 

[Ehswan]

He looks in ripping knick to be fair. My worry with Cleary and a few others in his position is that they seem to be pegs that can fit into many holes, but not exceptional enough in a particular position to actually replace a mainstay 22 player to cement their spot.

To make things worse his types are getting the odd pinch hit as high half/small forwards which is a prick of a role to play, it almost claimed the career of Wicks. Something has to give for these guys to have a future at the club.

Genuinely, who is at risk of being replaced in our midfield in the next 2-3 years? Rowbum maybe, although he seems to be refusing to give it up. Maybe Warner if he decides to leave? but even if he did you'd expect the club to use his funds to find a top tier replacement. Cleary is a mid, the question is how does he get in there.

I think he can definitely be part of the mix from what we have seen so far and what he was before being drafted.
I thought he wouldn't have fitted into the 'introductory ' forward role but he covered the ground better than i thought he would as a predominantly inside mid. He had alot of fight and he created opportunities that he didn’t convert. I thought he showed more than enough.
If his underage form translates he could be a great addition to the mids and forward rotation.
All those guys you mentioned agreed will be competing for the same spots but I think the game requires flexibility now and that is what Cox is aiming for. Heeney, Ch Warner, Papley, Gulden, Mcernerny etc are all adaptable.
The more we have that can slot in all over the better.
Rowbottom showed he might be able to.
Sheldrick not so much yet...
I think clearly and a couple of the young guys can potentially be adaptable and role through..

 

[caesar88]

I don't think there's much distance between Cleary and Sheldrick at all, despite Sheldrick being two years older. I've found Cleary to be the better of the two in the VFL, and given his elite tank already - a particular weakness of Sheldrick's - I would not be surprised if that carried over to the senior level as well. He just needs the opportunities Sheldrick has had. And for some reason Sheldrick's track record in pre-season matches is not great, so I can easily see Cleary claiming a spot over him come February.

Looking forward to seeing how they work for it and hopefully they can stay fit.

 

[rustycrate]

I don't think there's much distance between Cleary and Sheldrick at all, despite Sheldrick being two years older. I've found Cleary to be the better of the two in the VFL, and given his elite tank already - a particular weakness of Sheldrick's - I would not be surprised if that carried over to the senior level as well. He just needs the opportunities Sheldrick has had. And for some reason Sheldrick's track record in pre-season matches is not great, so I can easily see Cleary claiming a spot over him come February.

Looking forward to seeing how they work for it and hopefully they can stay fit.

Your distain for Sheldrick is noted and highlighted.
This is the Caiden Cleary thread yet you have dedicated more words to putting down Sheldrick than putting up Cleary.
Classic admission that the guy you put down is the guy you fear.
That is part of psychology 101.

I like Cleary.
I like Sheldrick.
May the better man win.
Nice problem to have.

 

[Kiama Chris]

Your distain for Sheldrick is noted and highlighted.
This is the Caiden Cleary thread yet you have dedicated more words to putting down Sheldrick than putting up Cleary.
Classic admission that the guy you put down is the guy you fear.
That is part of psychology 101.

I like Cleary.
I like Sheldrick.
May the better man win.
Nice problem to have.

IMO they are capable of playing complementary roles if both in the team but I think this season there won't be room for both.

 

[caesar88]

Your distain for Sheldrick is noted and highlighted.
This is the Caiden Cleary thread yet you have dedicated more words to putting down Sheldrick than putting up Cleary.
Classic admission that the guy you put down is the guy you fear.
That is part of psychology 101.

I like Cleary.
I like Sheldrick.
May the better man win.
Nice problem to have.

It's not that serious rusty. If Cleary is going to be in the midfield mix this year then he is going to have to leapfrog someone who already is and Sheldrick is clearly the most adjacent player to Cleary based on everything from size to age to inexperience to the way they play. So yes I'm going to talk about it in Cleary's thread and no it does mean I have any disdain for Sheldrick. I spent half of last season advocating for Sheldrick to get more midfield time, so you can take that theory and cram it.

 

[Kiama Chris]

It's not that serious rusty. If Cleary is going to be in the midfield mix this year then he is going to have to leapfrog someone who already is and Sheldrick is clearly the most adjacent player to Cleary based on everything from size to age to inexperience to the way they play. So yes I'm going to talk about it in Cleary's thread and no it does mean I have any disdain for Sheldrick. I spent half of last season advocating for Sheldrick to get more midfield time, so you can take that theory and cram it.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

It's not that serious rusty. If Cleary is going to be in the midfield mix this year then he is going to have to leapfrog someone who already is and Sheldrick is clearly the most adjacent player to Cleary based on everything from size to age to inexperience to the way they play. So yes I'm going to talk about it in Cleary's thread and no it does mean I have any disdain for Sheldrick. I spent half of last season advocating for Sheldrick to get more midfield time, so you can take that theory and cram it.

I actually think Rowy is going to have to defend his midfield spot against both Gus and Cleary.

Cox gave definite “Rowy ain’t a lock” signs towards the back end of last year.

 

[rustycrate]

It's not that serious rusty. If Cleary is going to be in the midfield mix this year then he is going to have to leapfrog someone who already is and Sheldrick is clearly the most adjacent player to Cleary based on everything from size to age to inexperience to the way they play. So yes I'm going to talk about it in Cleary's thread and no it does mean I have any disdain for Sheldrick. I spent half of last season advocating for Sheldrick to get more midfield time, so you can take that theory and cram it.

Now you are defending yourself.
Classic 101 You are wedded to Cleary. Thats ok.
I looked at another thread and saw your put down of Sheldrick.
You can deny your disdain.
But the proof is in the pudding.

 

[the hypnotoad]

Now you are defending yourself.
Classic 101 You are wedded to Cleary. Thats ok.
I looked at another thread and saw your put down of Sheldrick.
You can deny your disdain.
But the proof is in the pudding.

if sheldrick is healthy, cleary will have to find someone else to displace ... i don't even think it's a reasonable comparison
good luck to cleary, though

 

[dosser]

It's not that serious rusty. If Cleary is going to be in the midfield mix this year then he is going to have to leapfrog someone who already is and Sheldrick is clearly the most adjacent player to Cleary based on everything from size to age to inexperience to the way they play. So yes I'm going to talk about it in Cleary's thread and no it does mean I have any disdain for Sheldrick. I spent half of last season advocating for Sheldrick to get more midfield time, so you can take that theory and cram it.

I couldn't be bothered reading why someone has taken exception to this, but I agree completely. I think the two of them are competing for the same spot with Sheldrick currently as the incumbent.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

I couldn't be bothered reading why someone has taken exception to this, but I agree completely. I think the two of them are competing for the same spot with Sheldrick currently as the incumbent.

That Adelaide game last year was a bit of a disaster for Cleary, Corey and Bice.

I acknowledge Bice and Cleary didn’t have huge ToG, but I really felt like they all took a big step backwards on that fateful day.

It was kinda the end of Adams too & Sid Mitchell was never seen again.

Sheldrick played, but was listed in the bests & he’s one of few youngsters who seemingly didn’t emerge from that game with a black mark against their name.