Anthony Albanese - How long? -3-

[Markfs]

albo calling an RC. Israel doesnt like the woman who is going to head it. Susssan doesn't want the scope to extend beyond antisemitism.

 

[peetoo]

They have slandered everyone who supports a royal commission using an antisemitic trope straight from the 1930s. The editor should never have allowed it.

Quite a few posted in FB think such cartoons should be illegal after the ‘royal commission’

Regardless of you opinion it’s a dark road to go down if it happens

And can we also suggest govt violence in Gaza is also from the 1930s

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Yeah bit they're antisemitic Jews. They hate themselves.

Reminds me of this

“I do hate myself. But it has nothing to do with being Jewish”. One of the great Larry lines.

 

[pjcrows]

albo calling an RC. Israel doesnt like the woman who is going to head it. Susssan doesn't want the scope to extend beyond antisemitism.

It's almost like this is all not actually about the Royal Commission.

 

[Markfs]

It's almost like this is all not actually about the Royal Commission.

funny about that eh. And the overwhelming negative response to Virginia Bell being the Commissioner....as if its coming from a single co-ordinating committee....maybe from that famous whatsapp group of 2 years ago.

 

[CakeEater]

Failure of Albos leadership to capitulate and call a Royal commission here.

1. The RWNJ have him over a barrel, media commentators are saying he capitulated
2. By not calling it early and then calling it late in the piece, its very weak
3. The rwnj like frydo get to sook about elements of the commission now (like the judge)

 

[Markfs]

Failure of Albos leadership to capitulate and call a Royal commission here.

i think he successfully capitulated. For those who want to know what's next, search jeremy corbyn....

 

[Markfs]

I posed the question "why is virginia margaret bell antisemitic?" to google AI and this is it's response...

There is no evidence or claim in the provided search results to suggest that Virginia Margaret Bell is antisemitic. On the contrary, she has publicly condemned acts of antisemitism as "despicable" and "totally unacceptable".

Does this mean google is antisemitic?

 

[Gavin Excell]

James Allsop the preferred commissioner of Sharri

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Your kidding.

No one could have seen this coming.

The pressure campaign has already started over who is to be appointed and what the terms of reference are.

Fredo has slready started attacking potential candidates.

If Albo rolls over on each issue, the pointedness and brazenness of people trying to carry out a political exercise will only increase.

Bell for instance is an imminent expert in legal issues surrounding prejudice and has deep experience with judicial and public inquiries.

But a criticism that The Age listed was some anonymous individual saying "they did not know what was in her heart".

Beyond absurd. At some point Albo will actually have to stand firm, unless he wants to author a literal stitch up with people like Frydenberg dictating each step of the process.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

i think he successfully capitulated. For those who want to know what's next, search jeremy corbyn....

That's the ideal.

Be able to beat any opponent over the head with vague claims of antisemitism on any issue at all.

A bonus when this behaviour becomes so corrosive people lose all faith in standard political actors who then get replaced by actual far right antisemites, ala Tommy Robinson or Reform. It's such a lunatic and absurd path to national institutional decay, it beggars belief we'd willingly let that happen, despite not having the systemic issues inherent to the US and UK.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

James Allsop the preferred commissioner of Sharri

The person who has vocally inserted himself from day dot sure sounds like an impartial figure.

Absolutely ridiculous if Albo concedes to this politicised garbage, instead of at least trying to set up an impartial inquiry.

 

[King Patty]

The pressure campaign has already started over who is to be appointed and what the terms of reference are.

There needs to be pressure on terms of reference, otherwise albo will make it so narrow, it will be a waste of everyone's time

 

[kalex6251]

The person who has vocally inserted himself from day dot sure sounds like an impartial figure.

Absolutely ridiculous if Albo concedes to this politicised garbage, instead of at least trying to set up an impartial inquiry.

will allsop background markson in the same way sofronoff backgrounded albrechtson????

anyhoo ..... questions of impartiality will haunt whatever inquiry gets up now ..... silly move

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

There needs to be pressure on terms of reference, otherwise albo will make it so narrow, it will be a waste of everyone's time

That's unlikely.

The feted terms of reference have been alleged to include rise in racism, islamophobia etc. which are concurrent to issues of antisemitism, and it has incensed certain political actors, who clearly want an official pass to further attack particular scapegoats.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

will allsop background markson in the same way sofronoff backgrounded albrechtson????

anyhoo ..... questions of impartiality will haunt whatever inquiry gets up now ..... silly move

But his heart is therefore less opaque, maybe, and that's what matters according the The Age's news slop.

 

[Festerz]

Failure of Albos leadership to capitulate and call a Royal commission here.

This is imho a naive perspective but one that will have popular appeal and be parroted across the Murdoch press if a Federal RC is eventually called. It will no doubt stick.

But Albanese eventually agreeing to hold a Federal RC in the face of a huge backlash is NOT a failure of leadership imho. But a failure of political savviness.

His intentions might have been honourable and a Federal Royal Commission is totally unnecessary in terms of developing a credible, timely and targeted response to the Bondi shootings. Especially given a NSW RC had already been announced and a raft of Federal Government security and antisemitic reviews and actions were already in place. But, as respected political analyst Professor Mark Kenny set at the outset - rejecting a Federal RC at the outset was a major tactical mistake by Albanese

Because while he has been strong in standing up to the orchestrated and targeted political campaign being waged against him, the reality is that he is a Prime Minister from the left wing of the Labor Party whose leadership is reliant on the support of the largest number of Labor MPs (including dozens of first timers) a serving ALP PM has ever had.

And one can only imagine the huge pressure being brought to bear on these MPs from their constituents fired up over the front page campaigning led by the conservative and right wing lobby groups over the past few weeks.

Within hours of the Bondi massacre, current and former conservative MPs and their supporters in the legacy press were laying the blame for the terrorists actions at the feet of Albanese and demanding that he hold a Federal Royal Commission into not just the shootings but the broad issue of antisemitism. The very fact that this single act of terrorism became a political rallying point is in my view, one of the main reasons why a Federal RC should have been resisted - because it would no longer be about healing deep wounds that had been created since October 2023 and trying to restore harmony in Australian society - but the complete opposite.

But as was said in this thread by others, as soon as this became a political rallying point - Albanese was in 'damned if he did/damned if he didn't' . Continuing to reject a Federal RC would see the 'what is he hiding' headlines continue. Finally, belatedly agreeing to the pressure being brought to bear on him by almost every major media outlet in the country will lead to calls as you just made - a weakness and failure of leadership.

A win for the baying crowd and right wing of politics whichever way he turned. Which is exactly the goal of those who led this campaign of course. While I have no doubt that many of those calling for a Federal RC were doing so for honourable and just reasons, for the campaign organisers and their media supporters it was NEVER about the RC and what it might find.

It was all about partisan politicking led by the rich and powerful.

And once again the Australian population fell for it.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

This is imho a naive perspective but one that will have popular appeal and be parroted across the Murdoch press if a Federal RC is eventually called. It will no doubt stick.

But Albanese eventually agreeing to hold a Federal RC in the face of a huge backlash is NOT a failure of leadership imho. But a failure of political savviness.

His intentions might have been honourable and a Federal Royal Commission is totally unnecessary in terms of developing a credible, timely and targeted response to the Bondi shootings. Especially given a NSW RC had already been announced and a raft of Federal Government security and antisemitic reviews and actions were already in place. But, as respected political analyst Professor Mark Kenny set at the outset - rejecting a Federal RC at the outset was a major tactical mistake by Albanese

Because while he has been strong in standing up to the orchestrated and targeted political campaign being waged against him, the reality is that he is a Prime Minister from the left wing of the Labor Party whose leadership is reliant on the support of the largest number of Labor MPs (including dozens of first timers) a serving ALP PM has ever had.

And one can only imagine the huge pressure being brought to bear on these MPs from their constituents fired up over the front page campaigning led by the conservative and right wing lobby groups over the past few weeks.

Within hours of the Bondi massacre, current and former conservative MPs and their supporters in the legacy press were laying the blame for the terrorists actions at the feet of Albanese and demanding that he hold a Federal Royal Commission into not just the shootings but the broad issue of antisemitism. The very fact that this single act of terrorism became a political rallying point is in my view, one of the main reasons why a Federal RC should have been resisted - because it would no longer be about healing deep wounds that had been created since October 2023 and trying to restore harmony in Australian society - but the complete opposite.

But as was said in this thread by others, as soon as this became a political rallying point - Albanese was in 'damned if he did/damned if he didn't' . Continuing to reject a Federal RC would see the 'what is he hiding' headlines continue. Finally, belatedly agreeing to the pressure being brought to bear on him by almost every major media outlet in the country will lead to calls as you just made - a weakness and failure of leadership.

A win for the baying crowd and right wing of politics whichever way he turned. Which is exactly the goal of those who led this campaign of course. While I have no doubt that many of those calling for a Federal RC were doing so for honourable and just reasons, for the campaign organisers and their media supporters it was NEVER about the RC and what it might find.

It was all about partisan politicking led by the rich and powerful.

And once again the Australian population fell for it.

Excellent post. You’ve summed it all up perfectly.

 

[Markfs]

The person who has vocally inserted himself from day dot sure sounds like an impartial figure.

Absolutely ridiculous if Albo concedes to this politicised garbage, instead of at least trying to set up an impartial inquiry.

like many of us, albo knew what was coming. The naive folk who wanted to support the jewish community by supporting an RC, will now experience the ongoing circus punctuated by laws that will seek to govern every thought, word and action.

 

[Markfs]

This is imho a naive perspective but one that will have popular appeal and be parroted across the Murdoch press if a Federal RC is eventually called. It will no doubt stick.

But Albanese eventually agreeing to hold a Federal RC in the face of a huge backlash is NOT a failure of leadership imho. But a failure of political savviness.

His intentions might have been honourable and a Federal Royal Commission is totally unnecessary in terms of developing a credible, timely and targeted response to the Bondi shootings. Especially given a NSW RC had already been announced and a raft of Federal Government security and antisemitic reviews and actions were already in place. But, as respected political analyst Professor Mark Kenny set at the outset - rejecting a Federal RC at the outset was a major tactical mistake by Albanese

Because while he has been strong in standing up to the orchestrated and targeted political campaign being waged against him, the reality is that he is a Prime Minister from the left wing of the Labor Party whose leadership is reliant on the support of the largest number of Labor MPs (including dozens of first timers) a serving ALP PM has ever had.

And one can only imagine the huge pressure being brought to bear on these MPs from their constituents fired up over the front page campaigning led by the conservative and right wing lobby groups over the past few weeks.

Within hours of the Bondi massacre, current and former conservative MPs and their supporters in the legacy press were laying the blame for the terrorists actions at the feet of Albanese and demanding that he hold a Federal Royal Commission into not just the shootings but the broad issue of antisemitism. The very fact that this single act of terrorism became a political rallying point is in my view, one of the main reasons why a Federal RC should have been resisted - because it would no longer be about healing deep wounds that had been created since October 2023 and trying to restore harmony in Australian society - but the complete opposite.

But as was said in this thread by others, as soon as this became a political rallying point - Albanese was in 'damned if he did/damned if he didn't' . Continuing to reject a Federal RC would see the 'what is he hiding' headlines continue. Finally, belatedly agreeing to the pressure being brought to bear on him by almost every major media outlet in the country will lead to calls as you just made - a weakness and failure of leadership.

A win for the baying crowd and right wing of politics whichever way he turned. Which is exactly the goal of those who led this campaign of course. While I have no doubt that many of those calling for a Federal RC were doing so for honourable and just reasons, for the campaign organisers and their media supporters it was NEVER about the RC and what it might find.

It was all about partisan politicking led by the rich and powerful.

And once again the Australian population fell for it.

Yes, its puzzling....

Explain to me why I am going to lose my democratic right to speak against the slaughter in gaza. What is the magic key that I'm missing. I've been wondering about this for 2 years.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Yes, its puzzling....

Explain to me why I am going to lose my democratic right to speak against the slaughter in gaza. What is the magic key that I'm missing. I've been wondering about this for 2 years.

You can still protest against Gaza. You might have to ditch the Hamas headband and hold off on fromtherivertotheseaglobalisetheintafada shit though.

 

[Markfs]

You can still protest against Gaza. You might have to ditch the Hamas headband and hold off on fromtherivertotheseaglobalisetheintafada shit though.

As long as you give up your star of david underwear...

And once again, I apologise to you for any comments that I have made about israelis murdering palestinian children. I know my concern about such things is baffling to you.

 

[Markfs]

You can still protest against Gaza. You might have to ditch the Hamas headband and hold off on fromtherivertotheseaglobalisetheintafada shit though.

by the way, are you speaking for head office on those requirements?

 

[Not Important]

by the way, are you speaking for head office on those requirements?

don't think "head office" is where the noise is emanating from.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

by the way, are you speaking for head office on those requirements?

He actually pays a subscription for the privilege of regurgitating Newscorp propaganda.

Bizarre.