Current 4yo Boy Missing Yunta SA * Police Declare a Major Crime

[Cataholic]

They said that about Williams foster family

True, but the police seem to be more competent in this case.

 

[Sqotty from office works]

True, but the police seem to be more competent in this case.

Ahahahah

 

[Cataholic]

Ahahahah

At least they've identified inconsistencies and been willing to consider everyone as a suspect, rather than slamming the door shut straight up on some possibilities.

 

[Cataholic]

The other thing that is interesting is the drone footage, where it is noted as specifically showing "one human".

According to the stories, there should have been 2 together tending the sheep.

It seems someone's story is slowly coming apart.

Also interesting that 2 have lawyered up, and whilst one lawyer has said they're still cooperating the other has allegedly ceased doing the same.

 

[susurrar]

im struggling to think of a scenario where josie is the sole suspect. anyone? if josie is the suspect, they would all be implicated.

if there really is a sole suspect, then shannon makes all the sense in the world, but her lawyer says theyve been cooperating, while josies lawyer would not comment.

 

[Cataholic]

im struggling to think of a scenario where josie is the sole suspect. anyone? if josie is the suspect, they would all be implicated.

if there really is a sole suspect, then shannon makes all the sense in the world, but her lawyer says theyve been cooperating, while josies lawyer would not comment.

Got to admit I'm struggling with the same.

One seems to make sense, the other seems to have anger issues.

But one would implicate others as you said, whereas the police have said they only have one clear suspect, so.......

 

[FR0GGY]

The Adelaide advertiser has gone with “what does Josie know?”

 

[Cataholic]

The suspect HAS to be either Josie or Shannon, doesn't it???

The police indicated the suspect is a family member, and ruled the parents out, so who else could it be?

 

[Earls Smother]

im struggling to think of a scenario where josie is the sole suspect. anyone? if josie is the suspect, they would all be implicated.

if there really is a sole suspect, then shannon makes all the sense in the world, but her lawyer says theyve been cooperating, while josies lawyer would not comment.

Josie can be the sole suspect for whatever caused Gus' death.

That doesn't mean Shannon can't be implicated as an accessory after the fact.

This would require Jess to have left earlier to tend to the farming duties. Then something happens, caused by Josie. Josie says to Shannon, "we will lose the farm if we don't come up with a good story". So they concoct the abduction scenario.

The body is hidden and Josie rides off on the motorbike to join Jess. Jess has absolutely no idea anything has happened at this point.

The statements have been found to not match. Josie would have said she was with Jess the whole time (or at least longer than she actually was). Jess would have stated the truer version of the timeline. The discrepancy has caught the Granny's out IMO (ironically on AFL Granny day).

 

[Cataholic]

The other thing that is interesting is the drone footage, where it is noted as specifically showing "one human".

According to the stories, there should have been 2 together tending the sheep.

Just had a thought.....what if 1 of the 2 tending the sheep excused themselves from that task for a period of time with an explanation that they had to be elsewhere and would then return?

EDIT: your post above makes better sense

 

[SpecialBruce]

The thing that annoys me is the wannabe keyboard bashers on social media that are bashing the cops for wasting time with searches and they let Gus down etc.

It will be proven that Gus was killed before the police went to the property.

 

[SpecialBruce]

Josie can be the sole suspect for whatever caused Gus' death.

That doesn't mean Shannon can't be implicated as an accessory after the fact.

This would require Jess to have left earlier to tend to the farming duties. Then something happens, caused by Josie. Josie says to Shannon, "we will lose the farm if we don't come up with a good story". So they concoct the abduction scenario.

The body is hidden and Josie rides off on the motorbike to join Jess. This explains the drone footage only showing "one human". Jess has absolutely no idea anything has happened at this point.

The statements have been found to not match. Josie would have said she was with Jess the whole time (or at least longer than she actually was). Jess would have stated the truer version of the timeline. The discrepancy, combined with "one human" in the footage, has caught the Granny's out IMO (ironically on AFL Granny day).

Very good explanation

 

[CodyRose]

Th

That was their original story, doesn’t mean it’s true.
Oh and there was inconsistencies in the statements made to police by the family members. Fancy that hey, a grandparent lying

Hard to believe any of them

 

[CodyRose]

Good poin

Good point. Still, it is one or both of them.

Poor little Gus.
t. Still, it is one or both of them.

 

[CodyRose]

very deliberate wording there.

so josie is the suspect? seemed like she had a pretty rock solid alibi, working with the mother 10km away.

not sure what to make of this.

It's only rock solid if the offered narrative and timeline is accepted as truth.

 

[Curious Clues]

Josie can be the sole suspect for whatever caused Gus' death.

That doesn't mean Shannon can't be implicated as an accessory after the fact.

This would require Jess to have left earlier to tend to the farming duties. Then something happens, caused by Josie. Josie says to Shannon, "we will lose the farm if we don't come up with a good story". So they concoct the abduction scenario.

The body is hidden and Josie rides off on the motorbike to join Jess. Jess has absolutely no idea anything has happened at this point.

The statements have been found to not match. Josie would have said she was with Jess the whole time (or at least longer than she actually was). Jess would have stated the truer version of the timeline. The discrepancy has caught the Granny's out IMO (ironically on AFL Granny day).

“Lose the farm?”

I think avoiding going to prison would be a much higher priority than losing the farm.

 

[CodyRose]

Haven’t the police ruled the parents out?
You’d think they’d have to be pretty sure to do that already.

Seems to be changeable, police had formerly ruled out all three for the last 4 months. ?Still fishing

 

[CodyRose]

It seems someone's story is slowly coming apart.

Also interesting that 2 have lawyered up, and whilst one lawyer has said they're still cooperating the other has allegedly ceased doing the same.

and two separate lawyer companies, wonder where everyone is staying these days?

 

[Earls Smother]

“Lose the farm?”

I think avoiding going to prison would be a much higher priority than losing the farm.

Obviously, but Shannon at that point wasn't going to prison. However she would have struggled to keep the farm if Josie was locked up. Josie would have been trying to coerce Shannon into aiding and abetting, by suggesting what she (Shannon) stood to lose.

 

[Curious Clues]

Obviously, but Shannon at that point wasn't going to prison. However she would have struggled to keep the farm if Josie was locked up. Josie would have been trying to coerce Shannon into aiding and abetting, by suggesting what she (Shannon) stood to lose.

Looks like you have it all worked out then

 

[PetterdHoisted]

They said that about Williams foster family

if no trace is ever found in this case, your can't help think but about that case...

 

[zedx]

Josie can be the sole suspect for whatever caused Gus' death.

That doesn't mean Shannon can't be implicated as an accessory after the fact.

This would require Jess to have left earlier to tend to the farming duties. Then something happens, caused by Josie. Josie says to Shannon, "we will lose the farm if we don't come up with a good story". So they concoct the abduction scenario.

The body is hidden and Josie rides off on the motorbike to join Jess. Jess has absolutely no idea anything has happened at this point.

The statements have been found to not match. Josie would have said she was with Jess the whole time (or at least longer than she actually was). Jess would have stated the truer version of the timeline. The discrepancy has caught the Granny's out IMO (ironically on AFL Granny day).

This scenario reflects that Jess initially lied and has now changed her statement. Otherwise the police would surely have been onto the discrepancies of the time line earlier. IMOO I would have thought, in such a situated, if you were asked to not tell the truth in any small way, would you not be suspicious??
Maybe one of the Grandparents have cracked under the pressure?
Theres the possibility that something happened to Gus before Jess and Josie headed off to work and Shannon was involved either by herself or with Josies knowledge.
OR Jess and Josie came home earlier than stated, something happened without Jess's knowledge and that is why it took so long to report him missing.

 

[Earls Smother]

This scenario reflects that Jess initially lied and has now changed her statement. Otherwise the police would surely have been onto the discrepancies of the time line earlier. IMOO I would have thought, in such a situated, if you were asked to not tell the truth in any small way, would you not be suspicious??

Agree that someone's statement must have varied (from the original) around mid-January, when they were re-interviewed. Also agree that Jess should have been suspicious if she was asked to not be 100% honest initially.
The police are not initially thinking foul play, so maybe not overly concerned about the statements not completely aligning. Jess would have been stressed to bits and maybe didn't take full care with her original statement. Or, Josie was caught out by something one of the others said, and amended her statement in a way that rang alarm bells with detectives?

Maybe one of the Grandparents have cracked under the pressure?

Very likely.

Theres the possibility that something happened to Gus before Jess and Josie headed off to work and Shannon was involved either by herself or with Josies knowledge.

The media reports have given a few hints that a "he" was involved. I think Shannon is more likely to fit the previous point.

OR Jess and Josie came home earlier than stated, something happened without Jess's knowledge and that is why it took so long to report him missing.

Anything's possible, but how would Jess not notice someone go missing to dispose of the body?

 

[zedx]

Agree that someone's statement must have varied (from the original) around mid-January, when they were re-interviewed. Also agree that Jess should have been suspicious if she was asked to not be 100% honest initially.
The police are not initially thinking foul play, so maybe not overly concerned about the statements not completely aligning. Jess would have been stressed to bits and maybe didn't take full care with her original statement. Or, Josie was caught out by something one of the others said, and amended her statement in a way that rang alarm bells with detectives?



Very likely.



The media reports have given a few hints that a "he" was involved. I think Shannon is more likely to fit the previous point.



Anything's possible, but how would Jess not notice someone go missing to dispose of the body?

They could have gone searching in different directions, none the wise of what each was actually doing.

 

[PenfoldsFan]

im struggling to think of a scenario where josie is the sole suspect. anyone? if josie is the suspect, they would all be implicated.

if there really is a sole suspect, then shannon makes all the sense in the world, but her lawyer says theyve been cooperating, while josies lawyer would not comment.

An accident, as I've said from the beginning.
SAPOL took a car and bike, its likely that whichever one their suspect was controlling hit him upon returning to the homestead.
All 3 may be complicit in the subsequent cover up but only 1 is the perpetrator of the crime of causing death.

Id say he was out playing, he heard them coming back, ran out, they didnt see him, he was run over and critically injured and rather than risk losing the younger sibling to the Father who already feared his kids being there, buried him somewhere of significance and made up a story about him wandering off.

He'll be somewhere within 45 minutes of the hs.