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Autopsy 2026 Rd 4 Carlton vs North Melbourne: What is this sport anymore?

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I said decent, trhere's a couple of triers in there for sure and I'd consider Haynes to be very decent but he came across as a 32 year old last year? When did Jones leave, 2021? Anyway, by the time both HOF and Dean are fully developed, Weiters will probably be gone.

I don’t disagree but who did we miss on?

We have Young Derksen Weitering on our list with HOF & Dean. That is actually normal for one list

I wanted Phillips for the reason we saw today
 
They were both poor today so doesn't concern me who. Just too slow with ball in hand and having them in there together just leads to errors both offensively and defensively
I've loved both of those players but simply, I think the game has moved past them unfortunately. Crippa has worked himself into the ground for our club but im thinking it may be over after this year.
 
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It's simply got to the stage now, that if Carlton F.C stick with Voss for more than 2 weeks, the AFL should charge us with blatant tanking and take our first draft pick off us lol.

A completely clueless dullard of a coach.

The only KPI he has improved on is the utter clueless bile he talks publicly, something he was already great at, but has got greater.

Destroyed this list. From its best players, to its worst players, to its younger players.

It is what it is.

Luckily the passion has died so much in most fans that the anger is long gone :)
 
It's simply got to the stage now, that if Carlton F.C stick with Voss for more than 2 weeks, the AFL should charge us with blatant tanking and take our first draft pick off us lol.

A completely clueless dullard of a coach.

The only KPI he has improved on is the utter clueless bile he talks publicly, something he was already great at, but has got greater.

Destroyed this list. From its best players, to its worst players, to its younger players.

It is what it is.

Luckily the passion has died so much in most fans that the anger is long gone :)
ruined brisbane..
now ruined blues

crazy voss!
 
You know he cant comment on the umpiring and honestly stop expecting anything from those pressers. How do people get mad over that stuff?
I want him say ANYTHING!
If he speaks like that to you he players, no wonder we’re stuffed.
Own it
Get to work
Humility
wtf even is all that?
No other coaches speak like him.
Watch Bevo, Hardwick, CScott, McCrae etc there is some substance to what they say.
 
We do well to get in front at all when you look at the team on paper. We carry a lot of really inexperienced players and some very ordinary players. Then throw in some underdone players ...and some just plain out of form players. Voss does well to have us in games. Problem is the team on paper and list in general is part his doing.
 
I don’t disagree but who did we miss on?

We have Young Derksen Weitering on our list with HOF & Dean. That is actually normal for one list

I wanted Phillips for the reason we saw today
I really dont know who has been available but it just irks me. Young was originally taken as a back up to weiters and jones, its not his fault he was elevated like that. As far as Derksen, seems like a great guy, not sure that he makes it outside of being back up.
 

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Really?

1. Weitering accidentally collected high. Takes him out of the game. No free kick. North kick a goal.

2. Lewis Young being held out of the marking contest. No free kick. North kick a goal.

3. Ollie Hollands legged. No free kick. North get a cheap one. North goal.

4. Wade Derksen textbook front on contact. Not paid. Ball goes to North's end to seal the game.


Each and every single one of them is a decision that would get scruitinized at district level. Yet we're to believe that these umpires are several levels better than that?

The umpiring was atrocious.

But we got some cheapies too during the game.

Main thing costing us is weak playing group, list profile and game plan...

I don't care what anyone says, 11 tackles at half time... no one can tell me that's because of umpiring, tactics or anything else other than having a pack of pea hearted mercenaries running around wearing our jumper.

Which game plan revolves around no tackle pressure? No, not even Voss's... I'm not having it.
 
I don’t have the same feelings as the recent capitulations.

For the most part the boys fought that out strongly. A couple of poor decisions, by players, but the biggest problem were the poor decisions by the maggots.

Not a fan of the shutting up shop mentality coming from the coaches “box”, but we did not have the same mental frailties as recently. Even the potential “brain fade” from Boyd at the death was “understandable” and excusable as he was trying to move the pill when we were trailing.

I am proud of the players today. Yes there were some errors, but they gave 100%.
Feel the same. Supporter base is rightly frustrated but that was a very different game to the previous 3.
 
You know he cant comment on the umpiring and honestly stop expecting anything from those pressers. How do people get mad over that stuff?

I have always believed these are a message to the supporters. Important especially when things are tough

We are just getting the same meaningless crap each week which says to me he has no answers
 
He was playing frustrated

Serious question: can anyone remember Hayward playing that way or being allowed to play that way at the Swans?

If not, it may help answer many or ask many questions

Virtually every other team in the comp moves the ball into their forward 50 cleaner than we do. Our goals are almost always a struggle.

And apart from our talls our mediums and smalls never seem to be at the fall of the contest.

Taken me awhile but Voss needs to go.

A number on our list also need to follow him out the door.

Well done EH, amazing what happens when he’s played in the correct position. Also Nick N, Pitto , couldn’t fault Walsh’s effort but can still question his execution. Also Carroll, Kemp and Gov.
 
I want him say ANYTHING!
If he speaks like that to you he players, no wonder we’re stuffed.
Own it
Get to work
Humility
wtf even is all that?
No other coaches speak like him.
Watch Bevo, Hardwick, CScott, McCrae etc there is some substance to what they say.
He doesnt speak like that to the players, that much is for sure. Im not sure many other coaches speak anything of substance either and tbh , I dont care , those pressers are meaningless.
 
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There really are no words. North without its most influential player in Xerri and still roll over the top of us. I think it's now untenable with Voss. There's nothing to be gained from keeping him in charge and going to Adelaide and being at the helm of a 10+ goal pounding. It's obvious to everyone that he isn't the man to lead us anymore, so why can't Wright so that?

I don't really like to complain about the umpires but that today was disgusting. Absolutely in North's favour. But ultimately they were hungrier and harder for longer.

Also I'm sorry for whoever disagrees but I've never rated Hayward more than an average footballer. There's 200 Haywards in the AFL and now we're all seeing how 'good' he really is. He's not alone though. All of those recruits have been terrible. They should all be dropped next week. And when He Voss goes, he should take Nick Austin with him.
Wright can see it plain as day.
What he needs though is a good coach to train players and gameplan properly and to instill toughness and confidence in the playing group.

Money alone won't bring this to our club. History shows this with none of Clarkson, Scott, etc wanting to coach us when the opportunity was there.

He is standing by his coaches because whether you like it or not they are Carlton people now. And they're good people. He won't throw them under the bus and prove that this is not a club that looks after it's own, and I would stand by him if this indeed is the case, whether I like it or not.

Voss will likely see out his contract. He won't be at the club next year - that is certain now. Let's see what the GM and Pres can do.
 
I really dont know who has been available but it just irks me. Young was originally taken as a back up to weiters and jones, its not his fault he was elevated like that. As far as Derksen, seems like a great guy, not sure that he makes it outside of being back up.

We are resetting. It’s a transition period

Weitering has a few years left and HOF & Dean will be much better next year and beyond. Derksen is depth as is Young

As frustrating as today was we are set up for KPD for a decade. If we added Khamis we would be sweet
 

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