Opinion Commentary & Media IX

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[Jebus]

Adam Kingsley heaps praise on Clarko's Roos after narrow victory

Some interesting comments from Kingsley about our style, comparisons and praise on the coach.

 

[giantroo]

 

[King Corey]

30 years.
30 ****ing years.
How is this 30 years later?

Posing that on so many levels.

 

[Chadwiko]

 

[Disco Dew]

30 years.
30 ****ing years.
How is this 30 years later?

Posing that on so many levels.

I can still remember it clearly. School holidays at the grandparents farm. Didn’t watch or listen to a bit of it cos I was out ****ing working!
Good times

 

[King Corey]

I can still remember it clearly. School holidays at the grandparents farm. Didn’t watch or listen to a bit of it cos I was out ****ing working!
Good times

Especially weird because your grandparents owned a server farm.

 

[giantroo]

Simmo on our game:

"As a North follower, I'm disappointed, there is something different about North now isn't there? They're different, a more mature side, the defence is more sound, Clarko looks like he's different, press conferences going for 13 minutes again, he's got more to say about other things, Just feel like he is expressing himself a little bit differently the last month. It feels he's now growing with the club as well if that's possible for a guy who's been in the game for so long.

They've got some tough games coming up, Just thought there was a sense of maturity that could've gone either way but didn't go their way and it's not the end of the world."

 

[King Corey]

Simmo on our game:

"As a North follower, I'm disappointed, there is something different about North now isn't there? They're different, a more mature side, the defence is more sound, Clarko looks like he's different, press conferences going for 13 minutes again, he's got more to say about other things, Just feel like he is expressing himself a little bit differently the last month. It feels he's now growing with the club as well if that's possible for a guy who's been in the game for so long.

They've got some tough games coming up, Just thought there was a sense of maturity that could've gone either way but didn't go their way and it's not the end of the world."

Have felt similarly about Clarkson's pressers.

He is sounding like a regenerated Denis Pagan at times. And more like the Clarkson we were originally expecting.

 

[Spud11]

Have felt similarly about Clarkson's pressers.

He is sounding like a regenerated Denis Pagan at times. And more like the Clarkson we were originally expecting.

**** yeah. It’s good to have him back hey.

Hopefully he’s in full bloom when these young players soon are. Like them, he’s getting there. The real clarko is emerging.

I’ll be stoked for him to see some reward for effort. The bloke chose us when his currency was such that he could’ve gone anywhere. He chose our shit tip to fix. That means a lot to me. If he gets us into consistent finals in the next few years it’ll be as remarkable an achievement as any of Pagan’s flags and he will deserve a new contract.

I’ll be sitting here feeling like a fool for wanting him gone. A happy fool though. I did not see this coming.

There’s obviously still a long way to go but I’m very happy so far. He’s got them believing in him, playing for him, and they respect him because he’s all about “we”; he’ll defend them to the hilt and they have seen that.

The “cuddly” Clarko spent a few years setting the foundation for the feisty Clarko. There was no point going in there ranting and raving at a bunch of kids who were still learning. It makes so much sense now! He rebuilt the whole club, not just a team, and part of that was building a sense of belonging and gaining trust and commitment from the players.

Anyway, enough from me. It’s looking good though hey.

 

[King Corey]

**** yeah. It’s good to have him back hey.

Hopefully he’s in full bloom when these young players soon are. Like them, he’s getting there. The real clarko is emerging.

I’ll be stoked for him to see some reward for effort. The bloke chose us when his currency was such that he could’ve gone anywhere. He chose our shit tip to fix. That means a lot to me. If he gets us into consistent finals in the next few years it’ll be as remarkable an achievement as any of Pagan’s flags and he will deserve a new contract.

I’ll be sitting here feeling like a fool for wanting him gone. A happy fool though. I did not see this coming.

There’s obviously still a long way to go but I’m very happy so far. He’s got them believing in him, playing for him, and they respect him because he’s all about “we”; he’ll defend them to the hilt and they have seen that.

The “cuddly” Clarko spent a few years setting the foundation for the feisty Clarko. There was no point going in there ranting and raving at a bunch of kids who were still learning. It makes so much sense now! He rebuilt the whole club, not just a team, and part of that was building a sense of belonging and gaining trust and commitment from the players.

Anyway, enough from me. It’s looking good though hey.

You're like most of us - speak your mind but would much rather be winning than be right.

 

[Spud11]

You're like most of us - speak your mind but would much rather be winning than be right.

Part of me wonders if the internal pressure cooker that was starting to build didn’t cause this newfound fire in Clarkson’s belly. Because I definitely was not up for yet another year of mediocrity and the tepid acceptance of it from those in charge. But it doesn’t really matter, I love what I’m seeing regardless of how we got here.

You’re right, we come here to speak our mind and share our opinions on the club we love. And absolutely correct, I’d rather be wrong and win than right and see more turmoil.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

30 years.
30 ****ing years.
How is this 30 years later?

Posing that on so many levels.

Umm, we did win another one after that ...

 

[giantroo]

 

[NMFC49]

So tonight we hear there are only two umpires on the AFL umpires roster that actually played the game at AFL level. And by the way, all current AFL umpires earn between 100k and 200k for their part time job. Nice work if you can get it. We need to return to two central umpires. Nine games, 18 umpires. Perhaps we might then see some decent, informed, well trained and talented umpires. Currently it's amateur hour. AFL needs to accept that this four umpire structure does not work.

 

[the big lebowski]

So tonight we hear there are only two umpires on the AFL umpires roster that actually played the game at AFL level. And by the way, all current AFL umpires earn between 100k and 200k for their part time job. Nice work if you can get it. We need to return to two central umpires. Nine games, 18 umpires. Perhaps we might then see some decent, informed, well trained and talented umpires. Currently it's amateur hour. AFL needs to accept that this four umpire structure does not work.

You know what would help? Australian Rules Football is already undoubtedly the hardest sport in the world to officiate.

Maybe, just maybe, if we didn’t change the rules every year. Focus on different rules week to week. And finally, acknowledge how hard we make it on umpires, we might start taking steps in the right direction to reduce the frustration from literally all stakeholders holders in the game

 

[shintemaster]

You know what would help? Australian Rules Football is already undoubtedly the hardest sport in the world to officiate.

Maybe, just maybe, if we didn’t change the rules every year. Focus on different rules week to week. And finally, acknowledge how hard we make it on umpires, we might start taking steps in the right direction to reduce the frustration from literally all stakeholders holders in the game

Agree. I'm all for having less umpires and better ones, but the AFL needs to stop making their job harder week on week, year on year. Umpires should be guys that grew up watching footy and the rules are largely the same as they were 20+ years ago when they were a child. That's how you get consistency.

 

[Ashley B]

Legend of our Club Mick Martyn shinboner through and through.

 

[speedy]

Giantroo, are you being held against your will in a dark basement with 8 screens and 6 mobile phones in front of you displaying footy content? Or do you just have too much time on your hands?

Answer with a “I love Essendon” if you are in danger.

 

[gokangas]

St Kilda coach Ross Lyon issues emotional apology for ‘casual racism’ comment at training​

The coach offered to consider his position after hurting his Indigenous players with the remark.
Ross Lyon apologises over 'casual racism' comment

An emotional Ross Lyon offered to consider his position as St Kilda coach after making an inappropriate comment about Indigenous players at a training session earlier this month.

Channel 7’s Caroline Wilson broke the story on The Agenda Setters, revealing the incident happened before the club’s bye at the start of April.

During a training drill, three Indigenous players linked up and Lyon said, “I love the Brotherboy connection but we all have to remember we are part of a bigger team here.”

Wilson reported the comment did not go down well with St Kilda’s players, including Indigenous leader Bradley Hill and superstar Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera.

The incident happened on the Friday and on Saturday, Hill rang Lyon to “communicate his displeasure”.

Lyon and the players then met on Monday when the coach became emotional and offered to consider his position.

Hill rang Lyon to express his displeasure at the comment.

The coach took full responsibility for the comment.

“I’m not here to justify or try to rationalise what I said. We are all only as good as our next moment and it was a moment I understand I misjudged,” Lyon said in a statement to The Agenda Setters.

“Was I being flippant? Could it be described as casual racism? I learned a lot out of what happened.

“It didn’t land where it should have landed and I have to wear that and I take full responsiblity for what I said.

“I was very emotional at the meeting, and I offered to consider my position.”

Wilson reported that the players were satisfied and “absolutely accepted” that Lyon said the wrong thing, but “in no way meant to be racist”.

“Now, I can tell you that everyone got a bit emotional at this meeting. The players and Ross all hugged,” she continued.

“I asked Ross whether he felt that the issue had been resolved. He didn’t want to speak for his players. He’s spoken to Bradley Hill tonight as a result of knowing what we’re going to report on the show.

“My understanding is that Bradley Hill and all of his teammates, including Nasiah, who were not happy, were satisfied and absolutely accepted that Ross had said the wrong thing, but in no way meant to be racist.

“I think Brad Hill made the point to Ross on the Saturday night, ‘look, you wouldn’t have said that if it was three white players, so you shouldn’t have said it to us’.”

Wilson also said that Lyon was almost “relieved” the story has come out, and in no way did he try to defend his actions.

“There is no doubt he has a very good track record, Ross Lyon with Indigenous football is going back to his time at Fremantle,” she said.

“He’s almost relieved that we’re going to report it because he believes the truth in some weird way will set him free.

“He doesn’t think he’s racist and he certainly was horrified at how much he had hurt those players.

“He offered to address the entire playing group after the initial meeting. But the players at that meeting said that that wouldn’t be necessary. And they are absolutely insistent that they have moved on.”

More to come ...

 

[krakouers]

St Kilda coach Ross Lyon issues emotional apology for ‘casual racism’ comment at training​

The coach offered to consider his position after hurting his Indigenous players with the remark.
Ross Lyon apologises over 'casual racism' comment

An emotional Ross Lyon offered to consider his position as St Kilda coach after making an inappropriate comment about Indigenous players at a training session earlier this month.

Channel 7’s Caroline Wilson broke the story on The Agenda Setters, revealing the incident happened before the club’s bye at the start of April.

During a training drill, three Indigenous players linked up and Lyon said, “I love the Brotherboy connection but we all have to remember we are part of a bigger team here.”

Wilson reported the comment did not go down well with St Kilda’s players, including Indigenous leader Bradley Hill and superstar Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera.

The incident happened on the Friday and on Saturday, Hill rang Lyon to “communicate his displeasure”.

Lyon and the players then met on Monday when the coach became emotional and offered to consider his position.

Hill rang Lyon to express his displeasure at the comment.

The coach took full responsibility for the comment.

“I’m not here to justify or try to rationalise what I said. We are all only as good as our next moment and it was a moment I understand I misjudged,” Lyon said in a statement to The Agenda Setters.

“Was I being flippant? Could it be described as casual racism? I learned a lot out of what happened.

“It didn’t land where it should have landed and I have to wear that and I take full responsiblity for what I said.

“I was very emotional at the meeting, and I offered to consider my position.”

Wilson reported that the players were satisfied and “absolutely accepted” that Lyon said the wrong thing, but “in no way meant to be racist”.

“Now, I can tell you that everyone got a bit emotional at this meeting. The players and Ross all hugged,” she continued.

“I asked Ross whether he felt that the issue had been resolved. He didn’t want to speak for his players. He’s spoken to Bradley Hill tonight as a result of knowing what we’re going to report on the show.

“My understanding is that Bradley Hill and all of his teammates, including Nasiah, who were not happy, were satisfied and absolutely accepted that Ross had said the wrong thing, but in no way meant to be racist.

“I think Brad Hill made the point to Ross on the Saturday night, ‘look, you wouldn’t have said that if it was three white players, so you shouldn’t have said it to us’.”

Wilson also said that Lyon was almost “relieved” the story has come out, and in no way did he try to defend his actions.

“There is no doubt he has a very good track record, Ross Lyon with Indigenous football is going back to his time at Fremantle,” she said.

“He’s almost relieved that we’re going to report it because he believes the truth in some weird way will set him free.

“He doesn’t think he’s racist and he certainly was horrified at how much he had hurt those players.

“He offered to address the entire playing group after the initial meeting. But the players at that meeting said that that wouldn’t be necessary. And they are absolutely insistent that they have moved on.”

More to come ...

Adelaide and Port Adelaide like this

 

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[speedy]

Just wondering, would referring to the krakauer brother special connection on the footy field be inappropriate these days? It’s just seems it’s gone too far.

 

[SunnyBoner]

I wonder what was the context that Lyon would make a statement like that?