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Player Watch #16 Josh Smillie - Updated TBC

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Why did we recruit the next Nathan Freeman?
 

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Put him out for the season so we can get a mid season draft pick honestly.

Then if he recovers ask for special circumstances.

This cycle or injury and rehab the reinjury has to stop. Send smils overseas to get the best possible help he can like we did with grimes. Have we really turned over every stone we can ?
 
We’ve recruited about 3 x freeman’s over the past few years.
There's been a significant arrogance to our 'injury history but potential' over exposed form approach to drafting that smacks of the complacency of multiple first round picks. Swinging for the fences.

In any industry where your performance deviates so significantly from the mean, and in this case we're talking injuries versus every other side, it demands a review and significant attention from the executive to identify why it's happening and take steps to correct it. It isn't good enough to wait until the end of the year in what is already a lost season.

This is symptomatic of weak leadership, a culture of a lack of accountability and mark my words it will cost us players as blokes will hold a grudge about their management and it hurting their earning potential. If I'm Smillie agent I'd already be having conversations with teams like Brisbane that have a track record of getting blokes back to fitness and playing good footy.
 
There's been a significant arrogance to our 'injury history but potential' over exposed form approach to drafting that smacks of the complacency of multiple first round picks. Swinging for the fences.

In any industry where your performance deviates so significantly from the mean, and in this case we're talking injuries versus every other side, it demands a review and significant attention from the executive to identify why it's happening and take steps to correct it. It isn't good enough to wait until the end of the year in what is already a lost season.

This is symptomatic of weak leadership, a culture of a lack of accountability and mark my words it will cost us players as blokes will hold a grudge about their management and it hurting their earning potential. If I'm Smillie agent I'd already be having conversations with teams like Brisbane that have a track record of getting blokes back to fitness and playing good footy.
Our drafting period relative to the mean is abysmal to think that we’ve pissed so many pics up against the wall makes me sick this ll cost us years and years
 
This one has got me pretty upset. The club clearly has no idea how to rehab this injury. I don't think we're ever going to see this kid on an AFL field in Richmond colours. So sad for the young man and an absolute catastrophe for our club.

Smillie + Gibcus: we have lost two top-10 draft picks to injury. Can't see either getting back from these lost years.
 
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There's been a significant arrogance to our 'injury history but potential' over exposed form approach to drafting that smacks of the complacency of multiple first round picks. Swinging for the fences.

In any industry where your performance deviates so significantly from the mean, and in this case we're talking injuries versus every other side, it demands a review and significant attention from the executive to identify why it's happening and take steps to correct it. It isn't good enough to wait until the end of the year in what is already a lost season.

This is symptomatic of weak leadership, a culture of a lack of accountability and mark my words it will cost us players as blokes will hold a grudge about their management and it hurting their earning potential. If I'm Smillie agent I'd already be having conversations with teams like Brisbane that have a track record of getting blokes back to fitness and playing good footy.
Agreed.

Caroline Wilson reported early April there were growing concerns among the Richmond players about the Punt Road Oval surface. The club denied there’s an issue, but Caroline said the concerns are coming from the players.

Like her or not, she’s pretty well connected in the industry. When she says she’s hearing something, there’s usually some level of truth to it.

I really don’t want us to lose our younger players because of this injury fiasco, so we need to take action.

Article is here: https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/conc...rface-amid-lengthy-injury-list-c-22103927.amp
 
Agreed.

Caroline Wilson reported early April there were growing concerns among the Richmond players about the Punt Road Oval surface. The club denied there’s an issue, but Caroline said the concerns are coming from the players.

Like her or not, she’s pretty well connected in the industry. When she says she’s hearing something, there’s usually some level of truth to it.

I really don’t want us to lose our younger players because of this injury fiasco, so we need to take action.

Article is here: https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/conc...rface-amid-lengthy-injury-list-c-22103927.amp
They need to move to Waverley asap then and rip it up properly.
 

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They need to move to Waverley asap then and rip it up properly.
Yeah they put their hand up for Waverley late. Would have got it, but now the Dees are front runners after they expressed interest first.

Too busy sitting on our hands in many areas of the club at the moment.
 
Yeah they put their hand up for Waverley late. Would have got it, but now the Dees are front runners after they expressed interest first.

Too busy sitting on our hands in many areas of the club at the moment.
Want to buy a gym membership
 
Too busy selling digital bricks and reinforcing our stance on no songs after our players kick a goal (which doesn’t happen too often these days).
All the important stuff for a footy club
 
how it happened & how this club has a habit of "getting ahead of itself". And see the signs when we are doing the same shit just under different circumstances.
It’s post 1982 grand final all over again, just taking a different path. Same result sadly. And the same cause.

Hubris.
 

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It’s post 1982 grand final all over again, just taking a different path. Same result sadly. And the same cause.

Hubris.


It's all a simulation baby. Once you recognize the glitches, you start to see them all the time.

You are right though, this collapse is a lot like the bizarro world version of what happened after the success of 80-82. A desperation to stay relevant in the now of success leading to them over-compensating one way or the other ******ing them from being able to fix it. To be honest, I think I preferred the ciggy smoking, ruthless impatient, assholes version than this very meek, clumsy PR pseudo Support Officers version we have going atm. Even in the dark days, there were memorable moments like "The Mothers Day Massacre" that made it worthwhile.



If this club has a pulse, it needs to start leaning on it and showing something. It needs someone to come out and say something strong, meaningful & reassuring - or - the team needs to come out and show some guts & fight. They showed a bit of that on the weekend, but the bar feels a lot higher than that. The team is young & the injuries not great - but I have seen worse, do much better.

Voss last week was dealing with some really heavy shit with the E.Hollands stuff, another choke job to Collingwood & a very young player missing a easy set shot after the siren to draw the match. He looked absolutely defeated. And then he came out and let his guard down & said some incredible stuff that humanized the situation with the Club & EH's & I thought he made a great moment for the rest of the club to get some air, regroup - & his team came out and played pretty bloody well against a Top 2 Freo in Perth.

The club needs to dig deep from somewhere. It's moments like this where you should find out who your leaders are.
 
To be honest, I think I preferred the ciggy smoking, ruthless impatient, assholes version than this very meek, clumsy PR pseudo Support Officers version we have going atm.
I tend to agree. Finding a version somewhere in the middle of those two extremes (well, maybe leaning towards the assholes version) might be a worthwhile exercise.
 
Absolutely gutted for Josh, it must be so heartbreaking for him to go through this, when all he wants to do is get out & play with his mates he was drafted with. To me it has been total incompetence from the footy club to let this situation drag on the way it has. We need to look overseas as others have mentioned for alternative treatment, even if it takes him out for the remainder of the season & get him right for next season & hopefully for a better future with The Tige's. Otherwise if it continues the way it is, I would imagine he would look elsewhere to start his footy career.
 
There's been a significant arrogance to our 'injury history but potential' over exposed form approach to drafting that smacks of the complacency of multiple first round picks. Swinging for the fences.

In any industry where your performance deviates so significantly from the mean, and in this case we're talking injuries versus every other side, it demands a review and significant attention from the executive to identify why it's happening and take steps to correct it. It isn't good enough to wait until the end of the year in what is already a lost season.

This is symptomatic of weak leadership, a culture of a lack of accountability and mark my words it will cost us players as blokes will hold a grudge about their management and it hurting their earning potential. If I'm Smillie agent I'd already be having conversations with teams like Brisbane that have a track record of getting blokes back to fitness and playing good footy.
You make some good points

Re this-
“…where your performance deviates so significantly from the mean…”

Are there stats available to back this up? Not saying the claim is wrong just curious how we compare to other clubs and what the magnitude of the difference is?
 

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