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What the * is a Ryan Angwin?

That's a decent guessing game you got going on there.

Any guesses as to when the first trade will go down?

What did we get though? Why is it only us that's seen to be hard to deal with? Personally I think it's a great thing.

1. Wrong 2. Wrong

Plus we traded Adelaides pick 8 and kept our own pick 9. Dodo getting better by the minute.

Seems he still warrants his own thread for some reason. Lasting impact from the great man.

Deadline is almost here. Can't believe he hasn't traded in a full list of former 1st round picks from the franchises.

You conveniently wanted all the players that went on to be great. Almost like you "wanted" then with the benefit of hindsight and a review years later. Not much mention of those you wanted that turned out to be busts.

Where was Burton looking like being taken pre injury?

What makes him boom or bust, and less likely to be a 200 gamer?

I'm not sure you will find any free pass that I have given either of the 2 teams you brought up. As a precursor though, as you said, I think those 2 teams did lots of things exceptionally well that allowed them to make the most of the PP and FS rules in place at the time. The AFL have learnt...

Welcome to 1990.

The whole push for equalisation seems to apply very selectively. Hawks did it with the assistance of the old PP system, but also some great trading, drafting and coaching structures. Geelong did it off the back of some great drafting, and had some great luck with F/S picks that have now been...

And the rules have changed have they not? Did you choose to miss the word future in my post?

Hard work being the ablity to trade multiple late picks for top players?

Did Hawthorn and Geelong do it with academy picks?

But the makeup of that list due to gifts that seem to be an on going arrangement are far from what everyone else gets.

The AFL making it a top 6 + GWS and Sydney for the foreseeable future should be a decent enough advantage.

I can understand them having access to kids from the state, but are there still kids available from Vic regions? Do they still get them at a discounted price? Needs to be refined if they want to pretend they want a fair system.

Sounds good.

Nor has "Green for nothing"

Your response to the cheap scale for Green was pretty condescending compared to suggestions of an equally unreasonable 2nd rounder value.

To be fair, his value lays somewhere between nothing, and the 2nd rounder that was suggested. Why pick this quote up as being the unreasonable one?

He should really think about how some Freo supporting internet hero doesn't like how he goes about getting the best for his club. He wouldn't want some guy giving him a really lame and infantile nickname would he?

You bag out Dodoro for making you pay more than you thought he was worth? So he got the best deal for his club and did his job well? Who gives a * if Port had to wait longer than they would have liked. Maybe also don't try that moral high ground when Port had already given Ryder a training...

Unless you are talking about them as a collective, you are quite wrong.

Highlighted are the superlatives that make me think that like most here, you tend to overrate your own list. Melbourne may have done well, but calm down a little.

Re-break out?

Your list is great. It's very easy to pick holes in someone else's good work, but to put yourself on the line like you did is hard to do. Hats off.