AFL Player 12: Will Setterfield - not injured - 21/4

[Beerfish]

Contract Status: Out of contract 2024?
2024 My Boy Draft: Pick 17, mcgrath_truther

 

[Bjchan13]

You just play them all, they all fit but he does what none of the other ones do which is naturally defend and impact without having to be the primary hit to or give to player. A seamless fit.

Can completely understand him not being able to crack Carlton’s midfield but with us there’s an argument to be made that he’s even beyond Merrett in terms of filling a role others can’t.

A balanced team doesn't have all of Merrett, Durham, Caldwell, Setterfield, Tsatas, Parish, Shiel and Hobbs in it. This is one of the main issues concerning our list. Setterfield is best for balance in any 5 or 6 player combination you make out of those 8. There's a few that stand out as being able to gain us draft collateral to fix other areas of the ground and re-balance the side.

 

[Vander18]

It was all very odd - best 22 at start of year, played well, got injured, came back, played well….dropped and not seen again.

If papers were stamped would have been let go yesterday wouldn’t he? Wonder if they were playing Shiel in his spot to showcase Shiel and show the world he could still play?

 

[Zach Package]

A balanced team doesn't have all of Merrett, Durham, Caldwell, Setterfield, Tsatas, Parish, Shiel and Hobbs in it. This is one of the main issues concerning our list. Setterfield is best for balance in any 5 or 6 player combination you make out of those 8. There's a few that stand out as being able to gain us draft collateral to fix other areas of the ground and re-balance the side.

Merrett could start at half forward or half back and push in, Caldwell at half forward was when we looked best this year, Durham can rotate in off the wing and still be effective.

Start Setterfield as the defensive pivot with two of Shiel, Parish, Tsatas and Hobbs and the other two are your mid rotations off the bench, spread the load and have multiple waves.

 

[ant555]

He did not get back in because Caldwell and Durham took over. Compared to them he has a limited outside game.

 

[joey_jo_jo]

He did not get back in because Caldwell and Durham took over. Compared to them he has a limited outside game.

Ive said it before but I was deadset on him being an integral part of the midfield at start of year and was waiting for him to come back, but I reckon I could pinpoint the moment in the blues game where you knew he would struggle to make it back into the 1s. He was already a bit behind the pace and then he copped another knock to knee and looked like he was a 35 yo, they subbed him shortly after before even checking how serious the injury was.
He is a good player but unfortunately too many injuries to the legs mean he cant keep up with the pace of modern day footy.
Sounds like he is likely to get another year though, according to reports from McFarlane in the Sun, he is a good depth player if he can stay fit.

 

[Bjchan13]

Merrett could start at half forward or half back and push in, Caldwell at half forward was when we looked best this year, Durham can rotate in off the wing and still be effective.

Start Setterfield as the defensive pivot with two of Shiel, Parish, Tsatas and Hobbs and the other two are your mid rotations off the bench, spread the load and have multiple waves.

Looks like we may retain him . Agree Merrett and Durham are versatile and Caldwell is decent at half forward. I still think 6 max is the sweet spot out of the 8 players i mentioned.

 

[Zach Package]

Looks like we may retain him . Agree Merrett and Durham are versatile and Caldwell is decent at half forward. I still think 6 max is the sweet spot out of the 8 players i mentioned.

Assuming they are all fit and available that is a midfield bursting at the seams maybe with one too many but in the absence of really strong goal kicking half forwards you just stack the side with mids and try to overwhelm oppositions like Collingwood and the Dogs have done for the better part of the last decade. And you leverage the positional versatility of your Durham types to stack the side with more midfield rotations.

 

[Bjchan13]

Assuming they are all fit and available that is a midfield bursting at the seams maybe with one too many but in the absence of really strong goal kicking half forwards you just stack the side with mids and try to overwhelm oppositions like Collingwood and the Dogs have done for the better part of the last decade. And you leverage the positional versatility of your Durham types to stack the side with more midfield rotations.

B McGrath McKay Ridley
HB Redman Reid Roberts
C Duursma Setterfield Martin
HF Langford Caddy Merrett
F Kako Wright A Davey
R Bryan Caldwell Shiel
INT Draper Durham Tsatas El Hawli
SUB Guelfi

Feels like a fairly balanced side with what we have before the trade period.

Where would put Hobbs and Parish into this side/ what would you change?

 

[The Donners]

B McGrath McKay Ridley
HB Redman Reid Roberts
C Duursma Setterfield Martin
HF Langford Caddy Merrett
F Kako Wright A Davey
R Bryan Caldwell Shiel
INT Draper Durham Tsatas El Hawli
SUB Guelfi

Feels like a fairly balanced side with what we have before the trade period.

Where would put Hobbs and Parish into this side/ what would you change?

That’s a pretty slow midfield. Need someone with leg speed to burst through the midfield at least in patches.

 

[Bjchan13]

That’s a pretty slow midfield. Need someone with leg speed to burst through the midfield at least in patches.

And who do you see as being able to improve that?

 

[faible]

That’s a pretty slow midfield. Need someone with leg speed to burst through the midfield at least in patches.

Shiel, Durham and Tsatas all have speed. Caldwell isn't slow. Merrett is faster than you think - helps that he thinks faster than almost anyone in the AFL.

 

[The Donners]

And who do you see as being able to improve that?

Someone not yet at the club.

 

[Petrify]

He has a contract for next year now

 

[Zach Package]

 

[jdstorm]

Whoo

Was pretty good last year deserved more opportunities

 

[P Money]

Does this suggest we didn't get a player we were hoping for?

 

[Petrify]

Does this suggest we didn't get a player we were hoping for?

It suggests we're sure we are losing Stringer

 

[carnthedons]

Does this suggest we didn't get a player we were hoping for?

Reckon it suggest a certain mudgutted forward is out the door

 

[Wahooti Fandango]

eth-dog will not be happy.

 

[eth-dog]

eth-dog will not be happy.

I'm meh. He's good when he's on the park but he rarely is.

 

[Bipolar Bear]

Should be playing over Tsatas if he can't show a full game of physicality. I'd even play him over Shiel

 

[Blind Turn]

Should be playing over Tsatas if he can't show a full game of physicality. I'd even play him over Shiel

We have to play Tsatas. If anything, they should both play for both their sakes. Setters would help to pave the way in clearances like he did for him at VFL level. In fact, the best form that Tsatas has displayed has been at VFL level in tandem with Setters. It’s Hobbs, who is equally as putrid with his kicking, who should go first. I’m very underwhelmed by Hobbs progress and he’s not damaging in any way.

 

[ant555]

We have to play Tsatas. If anything, they should both play for both their sakes. Setters would help to pave the way in clearances like he did for him at VFL level. In fact, the best form that Tsatas has displayed has been at VFL level in tandem with Setters. It’s Hobbs, who is equally as putrid with his kicking, who should go first. I’m very underwhelmed by Hobbs progress and he’s not damaging in any way.

I do not understand why Hobbs has to go first ? yes kicking is horrible but his hands last night where very good and that dragged up his disposal efficiency up to over 80% despide him only hitting 1 out of 3 kicks. Then you have the rest. His pressure is way better. More tackles. More pressure acts by a long way. Hard at the contest. Effort can not be questioned. 5 tackles inside 50. 2 goal assists.
If I am dropping Hobbs my view is replace him with someone who can replicate the physical stuff and improve the kicking. Last night I thought he was better than he had been at half forward last year. Made better decisions. Just butchered a couple of kicks.
He 100% has to be better by foot to take the next step but his pressure forward last night was as good as anyone.

 

[Blind Turn]

I do not understand why Hobbs has to go first ? yes kicking is horrible but his hands last night where very good and that dragged up his disposal efficiency up to over 80% despide him only hitting 1 out of 3 kicks. Then you have the rest. His pressure is way better. More tackles. More pressure acts by a long way. Hard at the contest. Effort can not be questioned. 5 tackles inside 50. 2 goal assists.
If I am dropping Hobbs my view is replace him with someone who can replicate the physical stuff and improve the kicking. Last night I thought he was better than he had been at half forward last year. Made better decisions. Just butchered a couple of kicks.
He 100% has to be better by foot to take the next step but his pressure forward last night was as good as anyone.

Not saying I want Hobbs omitted necessarily. I’d just rather put time into Tsatas ahead of Hobbs and if you’re bringing in Setterfield to provide some physical presence he’s probably taking Hobbs’ spot.

It’s down to whether you continue with Hobbs for his development or go with Setterfield to help Tsatas’ development because he’d provide a shit load more presence at the coalface than Hobbs. It is his forte afterall. The fact that Hobbs has little hurt factor works against him.

 

[Vindicater]

Agree that at the moment Setter field is better than Hobbs