He knows when writing in the powertiser he has to be nice,bit like rushyte.
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And yet we are only 713 behind the top team. That's right we are only 713 behind the top team.
When the top team hosted their cross town rivals at an 80,000 seat stadium they could only manage 22,565.
The $186 million revamp of the Noble, Bradman and Messenger Stands at the SCG will disrupt the Sydney Swans
The capacity of the ground is expected to be reduced from 45,000 to 34,000 at the most disruptive stage of the project.
The SCG has been reduced to 34,000 and yet against the Western Bulldogs the top side could only manage 13,505 ... the top side could only manage 13,505.
No wonder you're siding with the Camry Crows
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No, we should be targeting people, just not the old SACA members / crows fans.
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Wow the Camry Crows averaged 39,879 in 2004 when they finished 12th and this year they are only averaging 36,825 ... and they've been mostly top 4. Why aren't their crowds up around the 42,455 mark like they were the last time they finished top 4? Where have these 6K gone?
Thanks Mattrox for pointing out that the Camry Crows crowds have been dropping over the years and that this year's top 4 crowds are just a "dead cat bounce". Thanks heaps.
You really are as thick as pig shit. People have answered this over and over, yet you keep asking the same question again and again. If your life revolves around fapping over an Adelaide crowd drop directly after 2 seasons out of finals and the worst season by the AFC in history, after the worst economic conditions since Adelaide joined the comp then its debatable whether or not you have a life...
Why did west coasts crowds only rise from 35k in 2010 to 37.5k in 2011 when the eagles went from their worst season ever to finishing top 4? After all, in 05, 06 and 07 they averaged over 40k.
Why has Ports crowds dropped from 23.8k in 2008 to 21.2k average in 2012 despite both years having a 30% win average? Thats an 11% drop...
Why did Ports crowds rise from 26.3k average in 2000 to 27.2k average in 2006, yet today Ports crowds are averaged at 21.2k in a year they have similar win/loss percentages?
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He's a passionate SA'ian who obviously wants AFL footy to thrive in his state. As a non-SA'ian, I can explain the reality of the situation objectively.
You said it yourself. It's obviously not due to bandwagon fans who only show up when the Crows are winning. Interest in AFL footy must be declining in SA, exacerbated by this joke of a football team called Poort Power and the fact that greater opportunities for employment lie across the border in the bigger cities of Sydney and Melbourne where large corporate offices are primarily based.
If this trend continues, there is no way SA can continue to support two AFL teams, particularly when one of them is a basket case rabble that is just happy to merely exist as a parody of its former alleged SANFL self whilst being run by some of the most incompetent people ever involved in professional sport.
No question about it. Poort Power don't belong in the AFL need to **** off and stop embarrassing themselves and SA footy.
So why aren't you. ????
Yes it actually makes more sense to send the Camry Crows to Tasmania. That would leave the Adelaide market free for Port, a club with more history in SA, to develop the SA market unencumbered. The Camry Crows have a good supporter base in Melbourne and would attract good crowds there.
The Tassie Crows could play 5 games in Launceston, 5 games in Hobart and their home game against Port could be played in Adelaide (for legacy reasons).
It would maximise the potential of both clubs and is best for football in this country.
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Roo wants what's best for SA Football which is two healthy AFL clubs.
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Actually we are currently targeting international students who are new to Australia and living in Adelaide. Expect further targeting of locals once we move to Adelaide Oval.
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Trying to add a sensible post here.
The vast majority of seats at AAMI are allocated to season ticket holders, meaning there aren't a huge amount left for the general public (these "bandwaggoners" I hear people talking about).
But as to why there aren't more people going to the games than a few years ago, I think that every game being live against the gate (on Foxtel) has a huge impact on attendance. Personally, I have young kids and a lot of my weekend time is taken up on driving them around to their sports and activities, so I can't go to many games. Having it live on TV makes it much easier, and in 3 hours it's finished. Going to the game takes twice as long, and I don't have the time on the weekend.
I know 17,000 Port fans that have the same problem. Why are your fellow Camry Crows fans being so critical of them and you?
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Non SA'ian or just well known Port hater? Not sure which, maybe both? If the AFL can force the $ANFL into handing us the license by the end of 2014, and we can get (both teams) a stadium deal that is in the mid range or higher than other AFL clubs, then obviously the finances are better off and we have more flexibility in our football department spending.
Even with a few no shows we still have healthy crowds unlike the cash strapped power.
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Remember Choco always talking about live TV effecting crowds but Demetriou was always denying it? I wonder what his opinion on this is now that every game is live and average crowds are at the lowest point since 1996.
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D_One has no answers, his pathetic attempt to try and continue parrotting "but the camry crows crowds are down too" is simpleton logic.
Port's crowds are currently down 24.7% from their average whereas our worst dip has been 13% from our average in 2011. This exposes the fact that Port have a high amount of bandwagon supporters that only go to games when they are winning.
Any of D_One's lame half baked theories about external factors having an affect on crowd numbers surely would be represented by Adelaide have similar percentages, but clearly they don't.
Once again D_One is trying to deflect away from Port's crowds being down 24.7% from average by stupidly trying to pretend that the Crows being only 8.7% below average is somehow more worrying
43,500 Capacity stadium vs 51,515.
He would say attendances across the league are up and clubs get more money due to the increased payments coming from the new tv rights deal.
Vlad doee not give a stuff about footy in SA now that he has collected his bonus for moving our clubs to Adelaide Oval.
As long as the SANFL continues to underwrite your club the AFL is happy as it means they have an 18th club to fill a timeslot.
BTW wasn't there meant to be a review in the ownership of our licences due in June. The SANFL pushing this out to 2014 and I don't hear the AFL pushing the issue.
The AFL dont need Port Power to be successfull they just need you to exist to fill a timeslot. The SANFL/SACA/SMA likewise only need Port Power to exist to generate revenues in matchday. Neither care about your success.
Of course if you were a real club, as members you would have a say, but you are not and those that can make real changes don't care. At the end of the day the only entity affected by Port Powers poor crowds is Port Power. Everyone elee gets their coin/slice of the pie.
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Because Poort's fall away in crowd numbers is massive compared to ours, why do you keep ignorantly posting the same stuff over and over again ?
What is so hard to understand that Poort are pulling 24.7% below their average crowd whereas at the Crows worst they were only pulling 13% below their average ? There are some outside factors like live telecasts etc, but the main reason why Poort's crowds are much lower than ours is because they clearly have more bandwagon supporters that only like going when they are winning compared with Adelaide. If you dont agree then I welcome to you show me any season where the Crows have pulled anything close to 25% below their average crowd.
This is the problem at Poort that you keep trying to avoid or deflect from, why are such a large percentage of your supporters staying away from the games ? When Poort are having a bad season why do their crowds dip to 24.7% below average while our crowds only dip 13% from average ?
Still not going to help if nobody wants to attend your games.
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Had they increased that 70/30 split that Matt loves to use as an excuse for falling crowds their core supporter base would be greater.
But even after a flag they could not grow their brand. That is a massive failure ie stagnant growth when market share is less than 50% when there is only one other competitor.
Maybe Kaysee the marketing guru could suggest the ramificstions of this? Or at least suggest how effective the Powers PR department really are.
But even after a flag they could not grow their brand. That is a massive failure ie stagnant growth when market share is less than 50% when there is only one other competitor.
Maybe Kaysee the marketing guru could suggest the ramificstions of this? Or at least suggest how effective the Powers PR department really are.
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Time to give up on Port Power and start up a new SA club then? Maybe something that appeals to the Northern suburbs.
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More $ = more spend on the entire football department which more often than not leads to better on field performances and that is what brings in the crowds.
Yes but nobody showing up to games = Less $ = less to spend on the entire football department which more often than not leads to worse on field performances and that is what lessens the crowds
A simple rebranding, like Footscray did will suffice. And is likely.
Keith Thomas/SANFL/AFL will point to crowds during this era of heavily promoting "We are Port Adelaide" as justification for the rebrand. Just like when the Bulldogs moved to Docklands.
A few Tealsters may cry about it but then will accept it. Like the Footscray supporters did.
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So... A few years earlier they averaged over 40k..
Why couldnt you address the Port related facts?