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Even if there is a 70/30 split, that means crowds should have remained fairly steady. Ports are heading towards half what they were when some of these surveys were conducted.
 
Stewies Power said:
More $ = more spend on the entire football department which more often than not leads to better on field performances and that is what brings in the crowds.
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And how do you get these dollars when less than half your members attend games, forci g the club to pay the difference caused by the match day financial loss.

The biggest group hurting the club are non attending members. Sure the stadium deal is not ideal, but get more of your members to show up and you make money....
 
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D_One has no answers, his pathetic attempt to try and continue parrotting "but the camry crows crowds are down too" is simpleton logic.

Port's crowds are currently down 24.7% from their average whereas our worst dip has been 13% from our average in 2011. This exposes the fact that Port have a high amount of bandwagon supporters that only go to games when they are winning.

Any of D_One's lame half baked theories about external factors having an affect on crowd numbers surely would be represented by Adelaide have similar percentages, but clearly they don't.

Once again D_One is trying to deflect away from Port's crowds being down 24.7% from average by stupidly trying to pretend that the Crows being only 8.7% below average is somehow more worrying :rolleyes:
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Unfortunately we don't know your real maximum. Up until a few years ago you were oversubscribed with memberships. You pushed the SANFL to build the Northern Stand. Your true average crowd was curtailed. Demand for Camry Crows tickets may well have fallen by 25%. Why?
 
Sekaj said:
Yes but nobody showing up to games = Less $ = less to spend on the entire football department which more often than not leads to worse on field performances and that is what lessens the crowds
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The move to Adelaide Oval, eventually owning our own license and a better stadium deal all = bigger $, leading to more football department spending and resulting in better on field performances, resulting in bigger crowds and therefore more $ again.
 

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topjars said:
You make it sound so easy Stewie; you still have to have the cattle and your barnyard isnt exactly brimming with future stars.
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In 2006 they were getting all excited about their "revolution" (12th and loving it) and all those imaginary premierships they were going to win. Now that this "revolution" has reached its prime, it isn't exactly a pretty picture.
 
D_One said:
Unfortunately we don't know your real maximum. Up until a few years ago you were oversubscribed with memberships. You pushed the SANFL to build the Northern Stand. Your true average crowd was curtailed. Demand for Camry Crows tickets may well have fallen by 25%. Why?
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Are you dumb or are you just trying to be obtuse ?

What you have posted is irrelevant, why on earth are you trying to change the goal posts and just randomly throw things out there like membership numbers in an attempt to deflect away ? The thread is clearly about people going through the gate and the large amount of Poort supporters that do not go to games when they aren't winning. Your average crowd this year is 21,265 (6.965 below average) which is 24.7% lower than your average crowd whereas our lowest dip is 13% in 2011.

All season I have seen you continually trying to deflect away from your crowd figures by trying to pretend that Poort's crowd figures mirror Adelaide's, yet in this thread I have exposed that the numbers between the two clubs clearly do not correlate yet you continue to try and ignore it and just parrot off the same flawed arguments.

When Poort are going bad on the field why do almost double the percentage of Poort supporters refuse to go to the games when compared to Adelaide ?
 
Stewies Power said:
The move to Adelaide Oval, eventually owning our own license and a better stadium deal all = bigger $, leading to more football department spending and resulting in better on field performances, resulting in bigger crowds and therefore more $ again.
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relapse said:
Are you dumb or are you just trying to be obtuse ?

What you have posted is irrelevant, why on earth are you trying to change the goal posts and just randomly throw things out there like membership numbers in an attempt to deflect away ? The thread is clearly about people going through the gate and the large amount of Poort supporters that do not go to games when they aren't winning. Your average crowd this year is 21,265 (6.965 below average) which is 24.7% lower than your average crowd whereas our lowest dip is 13% in 2011.

All season I have seen you continually trying to deflect away from your crowd figures by trying to pretend that Poort's crowd figures mirror Adelaide's, yet in this thread I have exposed that the numbers between the two clubs clearly do not correlate yet you continue to try and ignore it and just parrot off the same flawed arguments.

When Poort are going bad on the field why do almost double the percentage of Poort supporters refuse to go to the games when compared to Adelaide ?
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So there could have been a 25%+ drop in ticket demand for the Camry Crows.

Our figures aren't curtailed by an upper threshold. Yours are.

You are not comparing like with like .... again.
 
Haha you've been caught lying and your dummy spits are just hilarious. :D:thumbsu:
 
To be fair, if the Crows started playing shit boring football like Poort currently are, even I would consider not being ****ed to watch them play.
 
Stewies Power said:
The move to Adelaide Oval, eventually owning our own license and a better stadium deal all = bigger $, leading to more football department spending and resulting in better on field performances, resulting in bigger crowds and therefore more $ again.
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The move to Adelaide's Oval will not turn your bandwagonners into true supporters.

And THAT is your problem. No one likes a loser.
 

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D_One said:
So there could have been a 25%+ drop in ticket demand for the Camry Crows.

Our figures aren't curtailed by an upper threshold. Yours are.

You are not comparing like with like .... again.
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I call bullshit, both teams have an upper threshold. The maximum capacity of the stadium is the constraint, which is identical for both clubs.

Are you mistaken or just being a fraud again.

And when was the last time you compared like against like......?
 
Stewies Power said:
The move to Adelaide Oval, eventually owning our own license and a better stadium deal all = bigger $, leading to more football department spending and resulting in better on field performances, resulting in bigger crowds and therefore more $ again.
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One out of three of these scenarios is a definite.

Licence review has been pushed out to 2014. AFL have lost interest in fixing "SAFooty" now that the move to AO is done and we are going ok. So the AFL will not be driving any change in this regard for a while.

Keefey was appointed by the SANFL as CEO during this period of negotiating the new AO stadium deal. Why do you think Haysie was ousted?


The Power will always exist but will never prosper. It does not need to for the SANFL and AFL to get what it needs of its existance.


You are the Atlanta Hawks if the AFL....exist to provide revenue for the league and stadium owner
 
Sydney Bloods said:
30 pages 30 ******* pages of port fans trolling a team that has just 1 game below 30,000 all because you aren't man enough to admit your a failure one the field so you fans don't show up FFS just say it don't grasp at straws.

I came in here earlier to try and insert some sanity and got asked why Sydney crowds are low when we're on top, being a bloke who isn't afraid of the truth I answered honestly we're a team with a small supporter base.

All anybody ask's of you port flogs is you realise and acknowledge that you owe your continued existence to the Adelaide Crows, look at almost every thread you guys post every miserably bay covered game attendance, you survive on your hatred of crows.

Your so called supporter base only turns up when you play the Crows, your so obsessed with the Crows that any failure at your club is excusable so long as you can have a dig at Adelaide. Your here trying to bag Adelaide's crowds when your crowds are the worst non expansion team crowds in the league, in a state that is footy obsessed with your "100 year legacy" of being a "real footy club" your crowd numbers would be lower then nRL teams if it weren't for the crows game.

In truth all port fans should nod there head at anyone in a crows jumper as a sign of respect and thanks, because without that derby the AFL would've taken that licence back and ****** you all off to Tassie long ago.

Obviously D_one is excluded as she should throw herself at the feet of the nearest crows fan and beg them for forgiveness for being so deluded.
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They automatically thought that SANFL success would translate to AFL success..... it's an ego thing....and they have been well and truly brought back to Earth with a thud.
Sydney may have a small supporter base, but I would reckon they are in the top of the "most respected" lists of most AFL fans.

Port would probably be near the bottom.
 
Stewies Power said:
The move to Adelaide Oval, eventually owning our own license and a better stadium deal all = bigger $, leading to more football department spending and resulting in better on field performances, resulting in bigger crowds and therefore more $ again.
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This all sounds remarkably similar to what i was told in my 'Port power - a list in disarray' thread a few years ago.. And we all know how that is going :oops:

Once again:

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D_One said:
So there could have been a 25%+ drop in ticket demand for the Camry Crows.

Our figures aren't curtailed by an upper threshold. Yours are.

You are not comparing like with like .... again.
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Why do you keep trying skirting around the issue. I am simply posting about Poort's shit crowd numbers and how you time and time again try and deflect from Poort's crowd by parroting "the camry crows crowds are down too". Yet even after exposing that our average numbers have never dipped anywhere near as much as Poorts you still refuse to admit the obvious and are now trying to use imaginary hypothetical factors to try and disprove that Poort are 24.7% below average while the Crows at their worst were only 13% down.

Why wont you admit the obvious, which is that your supporter base has far too many bandwagoners that dont attend games which is one of the main reasons why Poort are bleeding copious amounts of money each year ?
 

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D_One said:
I know 17,000 Port fans that have the same problem. Why are your fellow Camry Crows fans being so critical of them and you?
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I call bullshit. That infers there are 17000 Port supporters who haven't lost their licence.
Not possible.
 
Mattrox said:
I call bullshit, both teams have an upper threshold. The maximum capacity of the stadium is the constraint, which is identical for both clubs.

Are you mistaken or just being a fraud again.

And when was the last time you compared like against like......?
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Just being a fraud again as once again when he is presented with some facts, he shifts the goal posts or blantantly tries to invent something to try and discredit it.
 
D_One said:
Unfortunately we don't know your real maximum. Up until a few years ago you were oversubscribed with memberships. You pushed the SANFL to build the Northern Stand. Your true average crowd was curtailed. Demand for Camry Crows tickets may well have fallen by 25%. Why?
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How can you possibly come up with a hypothetical statement and then ask people to explain it? Weirdo.
 
I cannot believe you guys have been at this for 28 pages.
Fact is Port are crap.
 

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