1990 vs 2010

[Hinequarters]

Assuming both teams have the benefit of modern training techniques, diet, game plan and sports science who wins?

The mobile structure of 1990 or the more conventional spine of 2010?


1990

Kerrison Kelly Morwood
Banks Christian Gayfer
Wright Shaw Millane
Francis Crosisca Barwick
Manson Brown Daicos

Monkhorst McGuane Russell

Turner Starcevich


2010

Shaw Brown Maxwell​

O'Brien Reid Toovey​

Thomas Ball Johnson​

Didak Cloke Wellingham​

Beams Dawes Sidebottom​

Jolly Pendlebury Swan​

Blair Macaffer L Brown Goldsack ​

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[sr36]

The romantics will say 1990.

But 2010 were taller, stronger, faster and more skillful.

 

[Hinequarters]

The romantics will say 1990.

But 2010 were taller, stronger, faster and more skillful.

That's true but there was a bit of freak about 1990, would have been older too I think

 

[Vicky Park]

There were some real tough hard nuts in the 1990 team. Not a chance in hell Essendon were gonna win that day, on 6 October 1990. The date is forever etched in my brain.

For most older Pies fans, the sheer relief of breaking the horrendous drought would put the 1990 GF win ahead of 2010, but I agree the more recent premiers were a beautiful team to watch.

 

[vjknight]

There were some real tough hard nuts in the 1990 team. Not a chance in hell Essendon were gonna win that day, on 6 October 1990. The date is forever etched in my brain.

For most older Pies fans, the sheer relief of breaking the horrendous drought would put the 1990 GF win ahead of 2010, but I agree the more recent premiers were a beautiful team to watch.

emotionally we older fans know which flag still brings tears, but likewise we recognise the talent that bought home 2010.

from what we have learnt since, if playing for their lives, 1990 would have a better chance.

 

[Betterthenbencoon]

Would love Pants and Banksy playing on Daisy Thomas now he's at the scum!!

 

[forwardflanker]

2010 wins because it had much greater depth. The top end talent of both sides is pretty similar. A big difference though is that 1990 didn't have any tall forwards and 2010 had Cloke who is probably Collingwood's best over the past 30 years. Having said that the 1990 foward line with Daicos and Brown worked pretty damn well

 

[EB&W Pieman]

Combined side:
Morwood Kelly H.Shaw
Banks Reid O'Brien
Wright A.Shaw Millane
Thomas Cloke Didak
Daicos Brown McGuane

Monkhurst Pendlebury Swan

Jolly Ball Sidebottom Beames

9 from each in the 18, but all 4 reserves from the 2010 team.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Combined side:
Morwood Kelly H.Shaw
Banks Reid O'Brien
Wright A.Shaw Millane
Thomas Cloke Didak
Daicos Brown McGuane

Monkhurst Pendlebury Swan

Jolly Ball Sidebottom Beames

9 from each in the 18, but all 4 reserves from the 2010 team.

Unless you've decided to play Leigh or Nathan Brown at Ff it's actually 10-8 in 1990s favour.

 

[the distributer]

Wright was possibly the most underrated footballer of all time IMO, **** he was a gun.

 

[the distributer]

Combined side:
Morwood Kelly H.Shaw
Banks Reid O'Brien
Wright A.Shaw Millane
Thomas Cloke Didak
Daicos Brown McGuane

Monkhurst Pendlebury Swan

Jolly Ball Sidebottom Beames

9 from each in the 18, but all 4 reserves from the 2010 team.

Stuff Jolly, Manson everyday of the week.

 

[Hinequarters]

2010 wins because it had much greater depth. The top end talent of both sides is pretty similar. A big difference though is that 1990 didn't have any tall forwards and 2010 had Cloke who is probably Collingwood's best over the past 30 years. Having said that the 1990 foward line with Daicos and Brown worked pretty damn well

McKeown, BT and Richardson were the ones missing from the GF.. only Richo was unavailable because of that famous Lethal Leigh tackle at training to test his shoulder.. we went in without the 2 key positions deliberately and it worked beautifully.. BT basically saved the final against WC and practically got us to the GF.. and Macca was our shut down fullback all year.. always felt sorry for them

 

[peter9789]

Assuming both teams have the benefit of modern training techniques, diet, game plan and sports science who wins?

The mobile structure of 1990 or the more conventional spine of 2010?


1990

Kerrison Kelly Morwood
Banks Christian Gayfer
Wright Shaw Millane
Francis Crosisca Barwick
Manson Brown Daicos

Monkhorst McGuane Russell

Turner Starcevich


2010

Shaw Brown Maxwell​

O'Brien Reid Toovey​

Thomas Ball Johnson​

Didak Cloke Wellingham​

Beams Dawes Sidebottom​

Jolly Pendlebury Swan​

Blair Macaffer L Brown Goldsack ​

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I had the pleasure of watching both teams win premierships and during the course of each season. I have no doubt the 2010 team would win and win easily. Back in 1990, we were not the best team over the course of the season but had a great September with a few things going our way and which worked against Essendon. Outside of Daicos, Brown and Millane the 1990 team was more workman like, and IMO lacked the class of the 2010 Premiership team.

The 2010 midfield of Swan, Pendlebury, Beams, Ball, Wellingham, Thomas, and Sidebottom is a class above Shaw, Millane, Wright, Francis, McGuane, and Russell.

It's all academic, but 2010 by 60+ points

 

[Gymnorhina tibic]

Just went on my honeymoon, Virgin have that excellent 1990 GF documentary on their in-flight entertainment.... started watching some arty Japanese movie with my beautiful bride about a poor boy who does good but as soon as she fell asleep I switched to the GF doc, when she woke I had tears in my eyes, she thinks I'm all sensitive For mine I love both teams, the 2010 side are the better footballers and would probably win but the 1990 are the ones I would have a beer with

 

[Drizt]

2010 would murder 1990. Would not even be close. Different times, different levels of professionalism and commitment (which leads to a completely different level of skill).

 

[Obese Arachnid]

Just went on my honeymoon, Virgin have that excellent 1990 GF documentary on their in-flight entertainment.... started watching some arty Japanese movie with my beautiful bride about a poor boy who does good but as soon as she fell asleep I switched to the GF doc, when she woke I had tears in my eyes, she thinks I'm all sensitive For mine I love both teams, the 2010 side are the better footballers and would probably win but the 1990 are the ones I would have a beer with

POTY!!!

 

[ZEV]

Who would play on daicos?

 

[Hinequarters]

2010 would murder 1990. Would not even be close. Different times, different levels of professionalism and commitment (which leads to a completely different level of skill).

Understood, but stipulated both teams operating under todays standards

 

[DIDAIC0S]

Wright was possibly the most underrated footballer of all time IMO, **** he was a gun.

Runner up in the brownlow 1990


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[Robroy22]

Would love Pants and Banksy playing on Daisy Thomas now he's at the scum!!

As good as Daisy was, you wouldn't need to waste Millane or Banks on him...Graham Wright versus Daisy would have been a belter of a contest.

 

[DIDAIC0S]

When you think about it in terms of the number of games played and the outcome the 1990 and 2010 finals series for Collingwood were remarkably similar.

3 wins, 1 draw, won the reply game by around 10 goals on both occasions.

Winning margins of 0,59,63,48 in 1990 and 62,41,0,58 in 2010.

Having been at all 8 games I really hope I don't have to go through another drawn final before I see another flag!

But I digress, 2010 far better skilled, though if Millane and a few others threw their weight around early el la Yeates-Bereton, we'd have a pretty close game I reckon.


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[Black_White]

1990 wins.
Simply because they only had to have one go at winning the bloody thing.
Unlike 2010 who, for the sake of one bounce, almost blew it and had to have another go.

 

[Obese Arachnid]

As good as Daisy was, you wouldn't need to waste Millane or Banks on him...Graham Wright versus Daisy would have been a belter of a contest.

Agree with that, both at their best would be fantastic to watch.

 

[Robroy22]

I had the pleasure of watching both teams win premierships and during the course of each season. I have no doubt the 2010 team would win and win easily. Back in 1990, we were not the best team over the course of the season but had a great September with a few things going our way and which worked against Essendon.

Outside of Daicos, Brown and Millane the 1990 team was more workman like, and IMO lacked the class of the 2010 Premiership team.

I must have been watching another team then in 1990. Shane Morwood was as silky a half back as there's been. Mick McGuane would have crowds enamoured today just like Swanny, Dougie Barwick would kick 50+ a season with today's rules and Christian would easily match Benny Reid or Nathan Brown. And saying Francis and Russell weren't skilled is like saying Tony Shaw couldn't find the ball.

The 2010 midfield of Swan, Pendlebury, Beams, Ball, Wellingham, Thomas, and Sidebottom is a class above Shaw, Millane, Wright, Francis, McGuane, and Russell.

"a class above"..... Shaw versus Ball would be a beauty. Ditto Wright and Thomas. Pendles versus Micky McGuane would pit two of the smartest footballers ever to wear the black and white against each other. Francis and Russell would easily out rove Wellers and Sidey which leaves us the game breakers...Swanny and Millane. hmmmm? wanna reconsider that "class above" stuff?
Another aside is that should either midfield be getting on top Matthews could always call up one G. Brown to add a bit more inspiration to the mix whilst Mick Malthouse could inject Beamer into the guts to spice it up. It all sounds like a close battle to me. I have huge respect for both midfields.





It's all academic, but 2010 by 60+ points

 

[peter9789]

Fair enough ... It's your opinion. Not sure I agree with your ratings of Barwick nor Morwood. I think in most peoples balanced assessment the mid field class of 2010 is superior to that of 1990, and that's not being disrespectful to the class of 1990 who were wonderful and achieved the ultimate. Always going to be an academic exercise.