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2008 Lineup

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Conceding that Kreuzer will not be ready to play for most of next year and Whitnall may not be there. If Lance stays he will be forward pocket and on the end of improved delivery.

B:Bower S O'hAilpin Jamison
HB:Scotland Thornton Houlihan
C:Simpson Stevens Walker
HF:Gibbs Waite Carrazzo
F:Betts Fevola Fisher
R:Cloke Judd Murphy

I:Hampson Jackson Grigg Hadley

E: A O'hAilpin Russell Austin
 
Conceding that Kreuzer will not be ready to play for most of next year and Whitnall may not be there. If Lance stays he will be forward pocket and on the end of improved delivery.

B:Bower S O'hAilpin Jamison
HB:Scotland Thornton Houlihan
C:Simpson Stevens Walker
HF:Gibbs Waite Carrazzo
F:Betts Fevola Fisher
R:Cloke Judd Murphy

I:Hampson Jackson Grigg Hadley

E: A O'hAilpin Russell Austin


CLose to mine, a few different:



B:Carrazzo S O'hAilpin Jamison
HB:Scotland Thornton Hadley
C:Simpson Stevens Walker
HF:Gibbs Waite Cotchin
F:Betts Fevola Fisher
R:Hampson Judd Murphy

I:Cloke Houlihan Grigg Bower

E: Anderson Russell Austin
 
Haha i've been waiting for this.

Scotland Thorton Walker
Bower O'hAlipin Grigg
Simpson Murph Stevens
Houlihan Waite Gibbs
Fisher Fevola Betts

Cloke Judd Jackson

Hampson Hadley Carrazzo Russell

Jackson as a tagger

Magoos

Anderson Jamison ++++++
Saddington Austin ++++++
Benjamin Bentick O'hAlipin
Edwards Whitnall +++++++
++++++ Hartlett Ackland

Kruzer Blackwell Wiggins
 

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Going on the same assumptions as ODN I would say

1s

FB Thornton O'hAilpin Bower
HB Walker Hartlett Hadlee
C Scotland Carrazzo Simpson
HF Murphy Waite Gibbs
FF Fisher Fevola Betts
FOL Cloke Judd Stevens
INT Hampson Grigg Jackson Houlihan

2's

FB Anderson Jamison #####
HB ##### Austin Saddington
C Benjamin Bentick Bannister
HF Wiggins Whitnall Edwards
FF ##### Jacobs Ackland
FOL Kreuzer Blackwell Russell
INT O'hAilpin ##### ##### #####
 
CLose to mine, a few different:



B:Carrazzo S O'hAilpin Jamison
HB:Scotland Thornton Hadley
C:Simpson Stevens Walker
HF:Gibbs Waite Cotchin
F:Betts Fevola Fisher
R:Hampson Judd Murphy

I:Cloke Houlihan Grigg Bower

E: Anderson Russell Austin

Does that mean Cotchin drafted ahead of Kreuzer???
 
People, can you please do me a favour.....stop quoting the tool.

I thought I had successfully added that's deliberate to my ignore list....if you keep quoting the toss-bag it defeats the purpose :(
 
B Jamison, Setanta O'hAilpin, Hadley
HB Scotland, Thornton, Bower
C Simpson, Carrazzo, Walker
HF Murphy, Waite, Gibbs
F Fisher, Fevola, Betts
R Cloke, Judd, Stevens
Int Hampson, Jackson, Houlihan, Aisake O'hAilpin

Emg: Bentick, Grigg, Anderson

2nds

B Anderson, Hartlett, Bannister
HB ????, Austin, Saddington
C Russell, Wiggins, Grigg
HF Edwards, Whitnall, ?????
F Benjamin, Kruezer, Ackland
R Jacobs, Bentick, Blackwell
 

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This is my lineup:

Hadley as spare man in defence. Waite and Fevola leading from the square, Cotchin swooping on the crumbs...


B: Bower Jamison Thornton
R.Hadley
HB:Scotland O'Halipin Walker

C: Simpson Stevens Gibbs

HF: Fisher Cloke Cotchin

FF: Fevola Waite

Foll: Hampson, Muphy, Judd

Int: Carrazzo, Betts, Houlihan, Grigg, Aisake.
 
This is my lineup:

Hadley as spare man in defence. Waite and Fevola leading from the square, Cotchin swooping on the crumbs...


B: Bower Jamison Thornton
R.Hadley
HB:Scotland O'Halipin Walker

C: Simpson Stevens Gibbs

HF: Fisher Cloke Cotchin

FF: Fevola Waite

Foll: Hampson, Muphy, Judd

Int: Carrazzo, Betts, Houlihan, Grigg, Aisake.

Wow. Apart from Murphy,Carazzo, Stevens, Judd and Fevola, you still have a really crap side!!!
12 players in that side would not get a game in a top 10 side. And Simpson and Gibbs would be half year, developing players.
You still need another couple of priority picks until Carlton is a powerhouse again.
 
Why not? ..... Recent history has showed they are ready and able to play out the whole year "with an impact"!

They? Who are they?

Recent history has shown that 17 year old ruckman take at least 2 years before they start making any impact whatsoever.
 
Prediction can finish anywhere from 6th to11th, can't afford injuries..
Remember this, we won 4 games in 2007 and we tanked the last 6 games , YES WE TANKED, we could have won at least another 2 or 3 games if we didn't .We had Essendon and Collingwood beaten till we eased up
Our Weakness the backline and it will continue for a while

BACKLINE

Walker (21)Question with this guy why can't he play on the talls and do a similar job Campbell Brown did this year with the Hawks . Walker is taller than Brown and quicker
Jamison(21) being groomed for Full Back
Anderson(19)being groomed to pick up the small fowards
HALF BACK LINE
Scotland (27)
O'hilpin(25)
Hard to know where his position is at the moment but i think CHB suits him , less pressure than Full back , except i wouldn't play him on players like Pavlich or Riewoldt
Thornton (24)Struggles in Key positions roles at times but good back up for Jamo if he's struggling at FB
CentreLINE
Simpson(23)Gun
Judd(24)Gun and then some
Murphy(20)Gun In training
HALF FOWARD LINE
Fisher(23)a good floating foward , works hard up the ground , a great lead up mark
Waite(25)time to deliver , to loose in backline and proven he can be a match winner
Gibbs(19)play him up foward and rotate him through the midfield
FOWARD
Houlihan (26)In his early years proven he can kick goals , prefer him to play there
Fevola(27)
Betts (21)
our only true crumbing foward

FOLL
Ackland (26), started poorly with club but improved at the end , why him at ruck ?save Kruzener and Hampson with Ackland doing the bulk of work
Stevens (28)welcome back
Carrazzo(24) deserves his spot , current B&F winner

Bench
Hampson(20) & Kruzener(18) Play these guys off the bench during the year , they haven't got the bodies to play the whole year and play first Ruck. Rotate these 2 players in the side through the year and come 2009 and beyond we will have some gun ruckmen
Bower(20)Back up back men
Hadley(25)2008 will better for him , takes a 12 month period of playing to get over a knee reco and that was 2007, rotate him through the midfield
Grigg(19) or Russell(21)prefer them to Bentick and Blackwell , grigg and Russell have more upside to them & more pace

Summary
Cloke
, gone after 2008 , i like Hampson and if we pick Kruzener , we have no need for him
Bentick and Blackwell and jackson all 3 in trouble with Hadley and Judd in side will be struggling to get a game
Whitnall GONE but the trading of Kennedy might delay his delisting by a year but i would do it now , to slow and pathetic this year , given the captaincy and didn't get fit , GOODBYE
 
Conceding that Kreuzer will not be ready to play for most of next year

ODN - is this just because Kreuzer has a light frame and would get battered?Is it to get some confidence in the seconds?
The only way to swim is to jump in and get wet after all.
Or have I missed simething about Kreuzer?
Long days and happy nights
 

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B Jamison, Setanta O'hAilpin, Hadley
HB Scotland, Thornton, Bower
C Simpson, Carrazzo, Walker
HF Murphy, Waite, Gibbs
F Fisher, Fevola, Betts
R Cloke, Judd, Stevens
Int Hampson, Jackson, Houlihan, Aisake O'hAilpin

Emg: Bentick, Grigg, Anderson

:thumbsu: This is more like it. I don't know why people keep overlooking Aisake in the Ruck. He is probably ahead of the Hampster at this stage. Plus he has a big body, is a great athlete and has a nice bit of mongrel in him. I think he will play a big part in the preseason comp and is a very big chance to be our No. 1 ruckman before the season is out.:thumbsu:
 
They? Who are they?

Recent history has shown that 17 year old ruckman take at least 2 years before they start making any impact whatsoever.

Port Adelaide - Justin Westhoff - 199cm
He's done alright for a first year player? Same height as Kruezer....
 
Really rate that Jackson kid - surely best 22 next year?

Will be very close IMO.
Will get pushed down the order a little with Judd coming in, and Stevens coming back from injury. Getting Hadley might also make it hard for him as well. Our midfield is really starting to look very scary now.
 
Port Adelaide - Justin Westhoff - 199cm
He's done alright for a first year player? Same height as Kruezer....

He was a fairly old recruit. He just turned 21. So he's around 3-4 years older than Kruezer.

Which once again makes my case for me. Takes around 2-3 years at least for a young ruckman to start making an impact.
 
B: Bower Jamison Thornton

HB: Walker O'hAilpin Scotland

C: Simpson Murphy Carrazzo

HF: Gibbs Waite Houlihan

F: Fisher Fevola Betts

Foll: Cloke Judd Stevens

Inter: Hampson Hadley Jackson Grigg

Emg: Bentick Russel Anderson
 

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