2011 Emirates Melbourne Cup......nominations

[Keystone agony]

I like Bauer aswell, hope it gets a run. Finished off well in the geelong cup.

 

[cotter101]

If they get in I will be putting some money on Bauer and Precedence.

 

[sethlad]

From the updated ooe posted by Seth it seems running a place in the caulfield cup is worth sfa as far as qualification goes while running second in the derby in Chile will qualify you

It comes down to the original weight against the WFA scale.

As a 4yo S Sun's 51 is -7kg against WFA,as a 5yo G Moon's 50.5 is -9kg against WFA & that includes the half a kilo penalty he got for winning at Newcastle

4yo's get 50kg unless theyve won a 3yo classic (Shamrocker 52)
Clearly Carpenter believed SS had to get something for his G1 placing & that gets him in this year.

For years trainers would do anything to avoid a penalty,not now.
As you can only get a penalty by winning,handicapper believes that this ensures the horses in the best form make the race.
Hard to disagree although I agree its bizarre that a CC 2nd doesnt get you a start but thats where we are now with 15 higher weighted raiders

The one I cant work out is Tactic,how did he get 52.5 kg off a 5 horse Gp3 win 16 months ago?

seth

 

[iluvparis]

Is it too easy for some of these scrubber internationals to qualify?

No - most of their so called 'scrubbers' are better than 95% of our domestic stayers - and if our domestic stayers were good enough they would do enough to qualify.

 

[sethlad]

Jockey news:Tim Clark back from HK to ride Older Than Time
Mark Johnston has convinced Silvestre De Sousa to take the Fox Hunt ride

Waller says he may be forced to run The Verminator in the Lexus rather than the Mackinnon although "it would just flatten him,simple as that"

seth

 

[superfreak]

Still can't go past Fox Hunt. Other than not having a prior run in Aus, he just ticks all the boxes. Loving the odds ATM.

 

[iluvparis]

The box that isn't ticked is a fairly big one though

 

[sethlad]

Here's the Goodwood Cup (2miles):LITM,Fox Hunt,Manighar,Red Cadeux

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE6BBNL86j4

Heres the Ebor (2800m): M Corniche,Modun,Saptapadi,Fox Hunt,LITM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urVGad9lSrU

seth

 

[sethlad]

J Cassidy booked for Illo

seth

 

[SUPASTARR]

Seth who do you fancy atm??? Top 5 perhaps?

 

[mattys123]

J Cassidy booked for Illo

seth

I'm undecided on whether that's a good thing or a bad thing, but seeing as Jimmy has a great big race record, I'll say it's a good thing.

 

[Rooster Cogburn]

He was riding pretty terrible only a month or two ago, but seems to have turned it around quite a bit recently. I'd agree that it's a good thing.

 

[sethlad]

Seth who do you fancy atm??? Top 5 perhaps?

Can I reserve judgement til after Bendigo?
Have been keen on At First Sight for a while but Id like to see him run well tomorrow

seth

 

[iluvparis]

I'm undecided on whether that's a good thing or a bad thing, but seeing as Jimmy has a great big race record, I'll say it's a good thing.

I am now putting a straight line through him

 

[plays tall 1]

Here's the Goodwood Cup (2miles):LITM,Fox Hunt,Manighar,Red Cadeux

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE6BBNL86j4

Heres the Ebor (2800m): M Corniche,Modun,Saptapadi,Fox Hunt,LITM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urVGad9lSrU

seth

Cheers Seth, this is very handy. The Goodwood is certainly a different sort of race. Almost a run around the countryside.

 

[sethlad]

Yeh its actually a private estate in Sussex which has numerous tracks.

David Hayes says Tactic would need to run very well in the Lexus to pay up.

seth

 

[rhinowce]

Might have a little on GALIZANI for the cup 200/1 at the moment, IMO he has a good chance of winning the lexus on saturday....

 

[Keystone agony]

Does AFS have to win the bendigo cup to make the melbourne cup field?

 

[iluvparis]

Nope - already in

 

[PieBeast]

AFS

That is all.

 

[Keystone agony]

with Tanby assured of a run in the cup is that even worst news for bauer now. Bauer would beat tanby in the MC if they ran IMO.

 

[GoodesStuff]

with Tanby assured of a run in the cup is that even worst news for bauer now. Bauer would beat tanby in the MC if they ran IMO.

Didn't beat it last week..

 

[iluvparis]

...and is not assured of a run in the Cup.

 

[bob7965]

C Williams suspended and will not ride on MC on Dunaden unless he appeals and wins

 

[stuziman]

C Williams suspended and will not ride on MC on Dunaden unless he appeals and wins

Waaaa? Where did you hear this?