2012 Mini Draft (remaining 2 picks)

[doggies ftw]

I really cannot understand why Melbourne or Bulldogs would want to Trade one of their 2 top picks for the Mini Draft when there are Kids the same quality or if not better in this draft they are also a year further into there development so you have a better idea what your getting.Bulldogs need to rebuild a team so they need more drafts to build another team, Melbourne are the strange one the last 4 years they have had some very high draft picks and I thought they would be a team which would be competing for a top 4 spot by now but they have gone nowhere and they are losing there top picks after a couple of years, why dont they
draft the best local talent and get a team that wants to play for Melbourne instead of grabbing everything they dont need

Well with everything thats being said it is understood that there isn't kids the same quality and definitely not better. Martin is rated way higher than a Macrae or Wines.

 

[UpTheGuts]

Rob Waters of 10: picks 3 and 13 for Hogan

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[doggies ftw]

Rob Waters of 10: picks 3 and 13 for Hogan

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Geez really? More than GC gave up for Martin you'd say. Melbourne must really like this under the table deal they made to get Viney at 26*cough* I mean Hogan!

 

[doggies ftw]

Imagine if Melbourne, Gold Coast and GWS got their first round picks taken away because they were all found out in some draft tampering deal which saw Viney go at 26. Oh wow and then we take Whitfield and Toumpas with 1 and 2 PLEASE happen!!!

 

[Scully2Folau]

Rob Waters of 10: picks 3 and 13 for Hogan

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Holy lord.

 

[LeverPuller]

only source so far

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Do Melbourne known that Hogan intends to stay in WA next year?

 

[coryne]

Rob Waters of 10: picks 3 and 13 for Hogan

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Wouldn't surprise me but I would expect #20 to go back to Melbourne.

GWS. #3 and #13

Melbourne. MD2 and #20.


That would give the GWS 5 picks in the top 14 (assuming #13 turns into #14 after the Goddard compensation)

 

[HFF]

Do Melbourne known that Hogan intends to stay in WA next year?

Considering he is ineligible to play in 2013, I don't think that will be a problem for the Dees.

 

[demon21]

That cant be right why would Melb have to give up more for MD pick 2 than what GC did, Pick 3 should be enough by its self if anything we should get an upgrade on a pick.

 

[Scully2Folau]

Do Melbourne known that Hogan intends to stay in WA next year?

I'd say they would've interviewed him at the combine last week.

 

[DivideandMultiply]

I really cannot understand why Melbourne or Bulldogs would want to Trade one of their 2 top picks for the Mini Draft when there are Kids the same quality or if not better in this draft they are also a year further into there development so you have a better idea what your getting.Bulldogs need to rebuild a team so they need more drafts to build another team, Melbourne are the strange one the last 4 years they have had some very high draft picks and I thought they would be a team which would be competing for a top 4 spot by now but they have gone nowhere and they are losing there top picks after a couple of years, why dont they
draft the best local talent and get a team that wants to play for Melbourne instead of grabbing everything they dont need

Clearly the clubs disagree with you and rate Martin/Hogan as better prospects.

 

[Vim Fuego]

We wont be paying GWS more to get MD pick #2, then GC did to secure pick MD #1.

Journalists making up stuff without even thinking whether its logical or not. I suspect it will be Hogan and an upgrade of one of 'our' later picks for pick 3.

 

[DivideandMultiply]

One will be going to Fremantle zack Clarke ,nick Sudan deal is done behind closed doors

Is that so......

 

[coryne]

That cant be right why would Melb have to give up more for MD pick 2 than what GC did, Pick 3 should be enough by its self if anything we should get an upgrade on a pick.

You did in the form of a 2nd rd pick netting a top 10 player ..............

 

[LBJ6]

Rob Waters is a chump. I guarantee that trade isn't happening.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

You did in the form of a 2nd rd pick netting a top 10 player ..............

 

[Antman78]

Perhaps already added

http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2012/10/08/demons-plan-to-snare-hogan/

 

[UpTheGuts]

Waters - Dees get pick 20 back from GWS too

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[LouisCK]

I think Melbourne are after Dawes, so I'd say we'd have floated the idea of pick 20 to Collingwood for Dawes.

We'll get 20 and MD2 for 3 and 13. Leaving us with Hogan, Pick 4 (Wines or Toumpas), Dawes for pick 20 and Viney at pick 26.

I would be, needless to say, pretty damn happy with this (not sold on Dawes regaining his form, but Dawes/Clark/Watts/Hogan isn't a bad group of tall forwards to build around for the next 5 years either).

Viney and Wines join a young midfield of Jones, Trengove, Blease, Howe, Grimes, McKenzie, Gysberts, Tapscott and our defence is already pretty settled. I'd still like us to get at least one or two more decent midfielders (or for Cale Morton to do something, anything really) on the list, preferably via free agency next year.

 

[the distributer]

That cant be right why would Melb have to give up more for MD pick 2 than what GC did, Pick 3 should be enough by its self if anything we should get an upgrade on a pick.

Because WS told you they won't bid for Viney if you pay massive overs for the Mini draft pick, very dodgy IMO.

 

[Vim Fuego]

I really cannot understand why Melbourne or Bulldogs would want to Trade one of their 2 top picks for the Mini Draft when there are Kids the same quality or if not better in this draft they are also a year further into there development so you have a better idea what your getting.Bulldogs need to rebuild a team so they need more drafts to build another team, Melbourne are the strange one the last 4 years they have had some very high draft picks and I thought they would be a team which would be competing for a top 4 spot by now but they have gone nowhere and they are losing there top picks after a couple of years, why dont they
draft the best local talent and get a team that wants to play for Melbourne instead of grabbing everything they dont need

Jesse Hogan is the best young KPF in the land. He is a player you build a team around and those sort of players are rare, which is why we're happy to part with pick 3.

 

[TheLastCall]

Perhaps already added

http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2012/10/08/demons-plan-to-snare-hogan/

Well you know it's not true if its on newsfirst.

 

[Vim Fuego]

I think Melbourne are after Dawes, so I'd say we'd have floated the idea of pick 20 to Collingwood for Dawes.

We'll get 20 and MD2 for 3 and 13. Leaving us with Hogan, Pick 4 (Wines or Toumpas), Dawes for pick 20 and Viney at pick 26.

I would be, needless to say, pretty damn happy with this (not sold on Dawes regaining his form, but Dawes/Clark/Watts/Hogan isn't a bad group of tall forwards to build around for the next 5 years either).

Viney and Wines join a young midfield of Jones, Trengove, Blease, Howe, Grimes, McKenzie, Gysberts, Tapscott and our defence is already pretty settled. I'd still like us to get at least one or two more decent midfielders (or for Cale Morton to do something, anything really) on the list, preferably via free agency next year.

That MD deal rumour HAS to be rubbish, and I also wouldn't part with pick 20 for Dawes. He's worth no more than a pick in the high 30's.

 

[demon_dynasty13]

gotta hand it to Mark Neeld

if hes willing to give away pick 3 for a kid who wont arrive until 2014, he must have confidence he can take the MFC up the ladder in 2013. Cos if we have another season like we did in 2012 and he wont even be there when Hogan comes to the club.