List Mgmt. 2016 Draft Prospects(Poll Added)

[CaptainMurphy]

I can't understand how people (not saying you) can't see the difference between how Sydney and GWS work their academies.

Sydney have got two guns in Mills and Heeney who would not have played AFL without the academy. The Heeney for pick 18 thing was a joke, but the AFL fixed that. They both come from Sydney, live in Sydney and play for the academy. These player now cost market value. I'm all sweet with that.

GWS last year got Kennedy and Hopper. Hopper didn't live in Sydney, played his football at one of the better football schools in Victoria (St Pats), played for Ballarat Rebels. He was always going to play AFL, as someone who went to St Pats in 2011 there was hype even about him then. Kennedy didn't even go to the academy, he chose to play with his brothers instead. How the **** do they get the rights to him?

Just a quick look over who GWS have rights to this year, half of them are boarding in Melbourne and playing TAC cup. It's a joke, and it pisses me off that Sydney, Brisbane and GC get put in the same grouping as them. Those three clubs are using the system perfectly, getting kids who would have never played AFL and teaching them the game. GWS are picking kids who have always been on AFL clubs radars, sending them to the best football schools in Victoria and claiming them as their own.

I'd love to know how many hours Kennedy and Hopper spent at their academy compared to Mills and Heeney.

So spot on. I don't love the idea of academies in general, but when they are run the way the other three are running them the seem to produce a reasonable amount of talent (one or two players a year is enough compensation for running them, more is over the top) and more importantly produce players that wouldn't have played AFL without them. I can deal with that. But the GWS academy is just taking players that would have played AFL anyway and giving them to GWS. And currently at the rate of 5 top 30 players per year! It's outrageous.

By the way, I had a sense that the GWS academy was working differently but had not had it really explained to me / confirmed, so thanks.

 

[Wizard17]

Fisher seems to have played good footy in the WAFL seniors too.

http://www.wafl.com.au/players/view/6012

 

[Dav1d]

Surprised there is no mention of Zac Fisher in here. He impressed me more than any other player on the field and has probably been WA's best player in the champs. Now If we could grab him later in the draft like we did with other smaller players...

English is seriously looking like a first round pick.

he is playing well isn't he, definitely consistent
Haven't seen him doing anything too flashy yet
Think the highest he would go would be second round

English is like having an extra midfielder, this is one reason I want a second first round pick. So many options and combinations

 

[Wizard17]

he is playing well isn't he, definitely consistent
Haven't seen him doing anything too flashy yet
Think the highest he would go would be second round

English is like having an extra midfielder, this is one reason I want a second first round pick. So many options and combinations

Fisher will go around 30-60.

What catches my eye with him is his composure in close and elite skills by hand and foot. He just makes the right choices and works hard around the ground. Also having played good footy at WAFL senior level for Perth helps.

English is going first round. I'm sold. Apparently he has been talked about by some clubs as a possible top 10 pick I hope he drops to us though.

 

[LittleG]

Fisher will go around 30-60.

What catches my eye with him is his composure in close and elite skills by hand and foot. He just makes the right choices and works hard around the ground. Also having played good footy at WAFL senior level for Perth helps.

English is going first round. I'm sold. Apparently he has been talked about by some clubs as a possible top 10 pick I hope he drops to us though.

I hope we pick him. Is my new first choice for our needs. Battle hasn't been consistent enough.... There are some great mids who will be gone in the top ten.

 

[Sharkey66]

Emma Quayle report in the age

Western Australia had their second win on Saturday, beating the Allies by three goals. The combined side looked more organised and played more cohesively the longer the game went, but left their run too late. The WA team kicked 10.9 (69) to the combined side's 7.10 (52).

Zac Fisher buzzed around, and was again one of WA's best few players. A small midfielder, he had 30 possessions in just 80 minutes of game time, bringing others into the play and kicking a goal.

Jack Scrimshaw in action for Vic Metro Photo: Eddie Jim

Sam Powell-Pepper's competitiveness was there again. He sought out contact around the stoppages and hit loose balls hard and at pace. He set up at least two shots on goals (one with a long, nicely weighted pass into the goal square) and snapped an off-balance goal himself.

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Sam Petrevski-Seton played for the first time in the championships, having overcome a hamstring injury. He was good. Early on he did a bit of marking-and-passing and 11 of his 19 disposals were contested, but he moved more freely the longer the game went and covered some ground.

Defender Josh Rotham has an adventurous nature. He was willing to leave his man at times and run for two or three possessions in the one piece of play. He had 15 possessions (11 handballs, four kicks). He was caught behind once on the lead but otherwise kept his opponent pretty quiet.

Forward Jake Waterman had an entertaining duel with Harrison Macreadie early on. He made him work hard, running from full-forward up to centre half-back to get the ball at times. He's a crafty player who thinks on the go and come up with some creative moves: look away handballs, snaps for goal when he only seems halfway back to his feet, those quirky sort of things.

Shai Bolton played another attacking game. His 16 possession game included six inside-50s. He likes to move the ball at pace and with a bit of pizzazz.

Matt Guelfi had 18 possessions through the midfield, carried the ball forward and used it well. He was also able to take some strong overhead marks, finishing with six grabs for the game. He's not super quick but finds room to move and likes to run.

It's clear what clubs see in Todd Marshall. The Allies forward is skinny, but played in front more often than not, leaping, stretching and holding onto some good marks (mostly against a bottom-aged opponent). Four of his five kicks were shots on goal and he finished with 2.2 for the day.

Midfielder Harry Perryman was good. He had 12 possessions for the day, used the ball smartly, laid four tackles and generated a bit more than others were able to.

The Allies rated key back Ryan Garthwaite their best for the day. He had 12 possessions, and shut his opponent, Luke Strnadica, right out of the game, keeping him to one handball.

Defender Harrison Macreadie was run ragged at times by Waterman but had the confidence to get away from him from his unpredictable opponent to try get the ball moving out of defence. He finished with 15 disposals and five marks.

Kobe Mutch was solid, particularly early when he really tried to get the Allies moving. He did his bit around the ball but also worked into space so that when he got the ball he had time to use it. He was the team's top possession winner, with 11 kicks and eight handballs.

Brad Scheer was busy early too. He did a lot of blue collar stuff around the ball and played with a bit of ruggedness. His possession tally was 11 kicks, six handballs and four marks.

Rebounding defender Jamie Hampton was exciting. In one piece of play he got a dodgy handball deep in defence and took off on the player reaching for him with enough confidence to take a bounce and keep going. During the last term he snapped a very classy goal off one step.

Will Setterfield came into the side for the first time. He didn't have a huge impact (four kicks, seven handballs) but cleared paths around the ball a few times, either for himself or others. At times he was able to get the ball away cleanly from a contest despite someone grabbing at him.

Forward Zac Sproule found himself some room to move in the second half, led up to the ball and laid one strong tackle. He had five marks to go with his 10 kicks and three handballs.

Daniel Watson was able to cut off player a few times in defence, most notably in the first half. The key defender took five marks for the match and had the ball 17 times.

Vic Metro, for the second week in a row, came from behind to win. Trailing by 35 points at three quarter-time on Sunday, they kicked six goals in a row to beat South Australia 9.15 (69) to 10.6 (66).

Andrew McGrath starred again for Metro. He ticks so many boxes: run and carry from defence, good ball use, instinctive feel for the state of the game, discipline, strength in one on ones...

Daniel Venables was hugely important in the final term, with seven of his 16 possessions. He holds on when he tackles (he laid) nine, and has so much strength when someone grabs him.

Tim Taranto is putting together a very good carnival. He was again influential, in both the midfield and forward line, able to get to the ball and also able to get in good spots to receive it as a marking target. He had 20 possessions, took six grabs, had five inside 50s and three rebound 50s but kicked three behinds.

Onballer Jordan Galluci is one of the better kicks in this year's pool. He looked at his best when looking for teammates inside 50 and setting up shots on goal. His game (11 kicks, three handballs) included six tackles and seven inside 50s.

Dylan Clarke won plenty of possessions, again. The midfielder had nine clearances to go with his 10 kicks, 14 handballs and five tackles.

Oliver Florent played a big part in the last quarter, too, his liveliness helping produce two late goals. One he soccered from the square, after Venables stripped a player on the goal line.

Forward Patrick Kerr missed a few seemingly gettable first half shots, then nailed some difficult late ones. He kicked four goals in the first half of the final term including one from the boundary line, and took eight marks for the game.

Jack Scrimshaw looked even more settled than last week. He moved the ball with some precision from the back half, finishing with 12 kicks, 10 handballs and nine rebound 50s.

Jack Maibaum didn't get a heap of the ball but for the second week in a row played well as a key defender. He kept a talented opponent - Callum Coleman-Jones - from having any impact.

Small forward Josh Daicos (son of Peter) came into the side. In the first half a couple of marks at pace stood out. He had one long centre clearance late that set up a shot on goal too.

From start to finish, Jake Pitman fought things out for SA. The small, strong midfielder topped their stats sheet with 29 disposals, four marks and six inside 50s. He also won six frees.

Playing as a tall defender (and taking most of the kick-ins) Sam Walker won a lot of the ball and set up play from defence. He wound up with 21 disposals and seven rebound 50s.

Midfielder Alex Villis came in and out of the game. When he was going, he was very good. He wrested the ball away from others at times, and was able to move it with some class.

Will Hayward kicked three goals from just four kicks, winning the ball in some innovative ways in the forward line and stepping around to kick one of his goals from beside the point post.

Jonty Scharenberg had another solid game playing through the midfield, particularly early, with 20 possessions, five tackles, five clearances and five inside 50s.

Small forward Kym Lebois didn't get a heap of the ball but sprung up over McGrath to take one classy mark (and kick a banana goal) and hit a pack of scrambling players hard late, taking the ball with him but missing the quick snap on goal.

Round four

Friday, Etihad Stadium

SA v Vic Country, 12.35pm

Allies v Vic Metro, 2.35pm


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[JAMES_B_101]

Surprised there is no mention of Zac Fisher in here. He impressed me more than any other player on the field and has probably been WA's best player in the champs. Now If we could grab him later in the draft like we did with other smaller players...

English is seriously looking like a first round pick.

Haven't seen a lot of him but nothing he did overly impressed me

 

[Wizard17]

Haven't seen a lot of him but nothing he did overly impressed me

Where you watching the same game as me?

 

[JAMES_B_101]

Where you watching the same game as me?

I will wait and see his athletic testing, that is what will make the difference in my rating of him as a prospect. He had a fair bit of uncontested ball and mostly handballed. Far from sold on him.

 

[Wizard17]

Athletic key forward, Esava Ratugolea has been added to Vic Countrys squad.

 

[LittleG]

Athletic key forward, Esava Ratugolea has been added to Vic Countrys squad.

Good to see this.
Country a) need him and b) I want to see him against some better defenders.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

I do a lot of mock drafts for fun, just screwing around, trying to see how it might fall out. Obviously will be massively inaccurate, especially at this time of year, but it's just a bit of fun. Anyway, got to our second pick and already gone is:

Sam Petrevski-Seton
Hugh McCluggage
Will Brodie
Josh Rotham
Ben Ainsworth
Todd Marshall
Josh Battle
Jarrod Berry
Andrew McGrath
Sam Powell-Pepper
Jonty Scharenberg
Jy Simpkin
Daniel Venables
Brandan Parfitt
Jordan Gallucci
Jack Scrimshaw
Jack Graham
Tim Taranto
Shai Bolton
Willem Drew
Jarrod Korewha
Tim English
Kym Lebois

Wondering who you all would pick of those still available? Nobody's jumping out, thought it would be an interesting question to ask.

 

[Dav1d]

Too easy
Oscar Junker or Jack Henry

Any of the top mature aged recruits to, which after our success with Adams. Other teams might pull the trigger earlier & this time last year, no one would have said Tom Doedee was going in the first round, Alex Morgan bolted to didn't he? After having a ripping combine & Schoenfeld to

 

[Dav1d]

Also, No Dylan Clarke?
Maybe he isn't for us but he's had a great couple of years & he looks just as talented as his brother at the same age

 

[Wizard17]

Too easy
Oscar Junker or Jack Henry

Any of the top mature aged recruits to, which after our success with Adams. Other teams might pull the trigger earlier & this time last year, no one would have said Tom Doedee was going in the first round, Alex Morgan bolted to didn't he? After having a ripping combine & Schoenfeld to

Polholke and Duman would be in contention too.

 

[Wizard17]

SA v VC

b: Mitchell Hinge (33) - Lachlan Cameron (41) - Lee Minervini (18)
hb: Dylan Whimpress (19) - Brennan Cox (44) - Sam Walker (32)
c: Steven Slimming (15) - Jonty Scharenberg (23) - Alex Villis (7)
hf: Ben Jarman (5) - Callum Coleman-Jones (48) - Conor Noonan (9)
f: Tyson Stengle (4) - Lewis Young (46) - Darcy Fogarty (38)
r: Peter Ladhams (47) - Jack Graham (31) - Jake Pittman (14)
i: Jackson Lee (27) - Dakota Nixon (10) - Joel Thiele (25) - Kym LeBois (2) - Will Hayward (22) - Chris Olsson (3)

b: Reece Piper (12) - Oscar Clavarino (24) - Cooper Jones (14)
hb: Jarrod Berry (22) - Jarrod Korewha (18) - Hunter Clark (19)
c: Tom Jok (10) - Will Brodie (7) - Lochie O'Brien (6)
hf: Sam Fowler (1) - Esava Ratugolea (?) - Jo Atley (21)
f: Ben Ainsworth (9) - Josh Battle (36) - Tyrone Hayes (2)
r: Sean Darcy (40) - Myles Poholke (28) - Hugh McCluggage (17)
i: Lloyd Meek (39)- Mitch McCarthy (27) - Louis Pinnuck (15) - Tom Williamson (20) - James Worpel (29) - Willem Drew (5) - Luke Davis-Uniacke (25)


Allies v VM

b: Jamie Hampton (17) - Ryan Garthwaite (25) - Max Spencer (24)
hb: Harrison Macreadie (29) - Jake Brown (5) Isaac Cumming (11)
c: Harry Perryman (13) - Kobe Mutch (14) - Will Setterfield (23)
hf: Brad Scheer (16) - Todd Marshall (31) - Jack Rolls (12)
f: Mitchell Maguire (1) - Zachary Sproule (30) - Jacob Allison (26)
r: Max Lynch (34) - Sam Fisher (9) - Jack Bowes (18)
i: Brandon Parfitt (6) - Benjamin Davis (19) - Tony Olango (35) - Josh Williams (21) - Ben Long (10) - Charlie Spargo (4) - Nick Kempe (8)

b: Brodie Romensky (26) - Harrison Nolan (35) - Nelson Lane (19)
hb: Jack Scrimshaw (21) - Jack Maibaum (31) - Andrew McGrath (5)
c: Taylin Duman (22) - Dylan Clarke (18) - Corey Lyons (8)
hf: Oliver Florent (13) - Nick Larkey (37) - Tim Taranto (24)
f: Callum Brown (1) - Patrick Kerr (30) - Jordan Lynch (4)
r: Sam Hayes (36) - Jordan Gallucci (11) - Wilson Berry (27)
i: Joel Garner (17) - Daniel Venables (25) - Josh Daicos (7) - Lachlan Filipovic (39) - Luke Bunker (9) - Jack Higgins (3) - Jordan Ridley (20)

 

[Dav1d]

Its not been streamed or on foxtel?

 

[Super Hans]

Its not been streamed or on foxtel?

It's about to start on Fox Footy now.

 

[Dav1d]

It's about to start on Fox Footy now.

yeah I went to check again
It didn't come up in the search

 

[Super Hans]

I reckon McCluggage will go #1 from what I've seen.

 

[Wizard17]

Jack Graham 14 disposals, 7 of which are clearances at half time. Killing them.

 

[Pugz89]

Fisher seems to have played good footy in the WAFL seniors too.

http://www.wafl.com.au/players/view/6012

Andy maher is campaigning on SEN for Fisher to go first round. Haha guess he really is a campaigner.

 

[Wizard17]

Andy maher is campaigning on SEN for Fisher to go first round. Haha guess he really is a campaigner.

I think his size will keep him out of the first round. Has been WAs best player in the champs by a fair margin though.

Edit: Brett Sanderson said that he was somewhere in the first two rounds too. Compared him to Sam Mitchell from memory.

 

[Pugz89]

Emma Q did an article on Patrick Kerr. Saw he's been mentioned in here a couple times. Interesting read.

 

[Wizard17]

Emma Q did an article on Patrick Kerr. Saw he's been mentioned in here a couple times. Interesting read.

Has two goals in the first so far...