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List Mgmt. 2025 AFL Draft - The Final Countdown

What Is Your Preferred Combination At Picks 3 & 4?


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I don't get why everyone is so negative about Taylor. He's got speed, skill and doesn't get beaten in the contest.

Not just a defender either. Has scope to become a Weddle-style wingman or even a mid.
I assume Richmond would bid on Dean before Taylor, if Dean is the best defender in the draft it would be irrational not to bid.
 
I assume Richmond would bid on Dean before Taylor, if Dean is the best defender in the draft it would be irrational not to bid.

You'd think so but our bright sparks will try and make Taylor a mid, even though the draft has a handful of better mids already. LOL
 

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Also, if we bid on Taylor at 5, then surely, we would bid on Dean and get Carlton to match considering Dean would be the better defender.

Not against XT but if you are hoping to move him into the midfield just draft a midfielder (ie sharp) or someone who’s played midfield (ie Robey).

Does Jasper support Essendon?

He had us obsessed with Jobe Shanahan and Jagga last year.

Blair simply doesn’t leak, so the info comes from managers and clubs that do leak, guessing what we will do. Hence us taking Taj and Faull instead of the collective thought we’d take Bo Allan and Shanahan.
 
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One thing we can take from last year is jagga Smith was never really in our calculations. Our recruiters felt that even though he was an accumulator he wasn't good enough by foot for us to draft him. Take that as you will.
I think it was lalor & FOS our recruiters wanted but not at the cost of #7 smillie
If we are to believe this to be true then Cummings is just about the perfect choice 12 months on.
 
I don't get why everyone is so negative about Taylor. He's got speed, skill and doesn't get beaten in the contest.

Not just a defender either. Has scope to become a Weddle-style wingman or even a mid.

I don’t mind Taylor and think he has plenty of growth in his game but haven’t seen the level of marking or disposal or even speed that I’ve seen others describe in him. His main strengths seem to be that he’s agile and highly competitive which is great but not sure those traits alone are worth overlooking other prospects for.
 
Clarke , Broad , Smith probably wont be on the list in 12 months time so not far of in a 42+ squad

You’re actually 100% off, that’s a long way. Also ignores any other draftees/rookies we pick up with sub 3.

Fred is slow bro… he plays slow too. That’s why he isn’t top 5 despite coming in to year with that rep. He isn’t tanking or anything like that, WA talent like f/s talent (Mcguane/Camporeale etc..) gets overrated because nobody actually watches them consistently until draft year and than their weakness get exposed.
 
I don’t mind Taylor and think he has plenty of growth in his game but haven’t seen the level of marking or disposal or even speed that I’ve seen others describe in him. His main strengths seem to be that he’s agile and highly competitive which is great but not sure those traits alone are worth overlooking other prospects for.
Marvelous the spirit of Danny Meyer is alive and well.
 
An interesting assessment from Rookie Me on Dyson Sharp and I guess that's why opinions on him are polarising.

IMPROVEMENTS:

  • Kicking
  • Outside game
  • Speed

While he leads the crop at what he's best at, Sharp remains entrenched in the ever evolving footballer vs. athlete debate. He is the type who has a high floor, but arguably lower ceiling than others in the same draft range. The likes of Ben Hobbs and Jhye Clark are similar stylistic examples who have gone on to the next level as first round draftees.

On pure performance, Sharp was among the best of the crop, but a crystal ball approach may favour others in the draft class. The way top level football is headed leans towards fast transitional play, where leg speed and foot skills are king. Sharp's skillset fits outside that category, but still has a place in the modern game to help enhance those who thrive on that style.
LOL similar 'stylistic'

Hobbs and Clark wouldn't tie Sharp's shoe laces and had no where near the impact Sharp has had the last 2 years
Brayshaw , Dunkley , Libba , Mundy are also 'Stylistically' similar also

Wouldnt surprise me Sharp becomes the best 3 player's from this draft in 10 years time and does what Mundy did for 15+ years
 

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Sharp could quite easily end up being the Anthony Morabito of the draft.
 
I will spew if we take NHH that early..
Think we will trade up from 38 to NHH if we are keen on him (will probably be about a 10-15 pick upgrade)
Speed ❌
Kicking ❌
Position variability ❌

Also, its highlights. Ive seen plenty of videos where he handballs in more in hope than to an actual target (although still much better than NHH, who people seem to love)
Don't forget massive improvement in the weak areas of his game over the last 18mths, im also not really sold on the quality of the speedy midfielders in this draft and would be comfortable waiting for next yrs.
With the current batch of mids on the list
Lalor , Hotton , Smillie , McAuliffe , Campbell just 5 mids all with speed (smillie exception)
Sharp just fits right in there along with Cummings more than any other 2 players rated in the top 10 of this years draft
I'd be pretty certain if wce had pick 3 4 instead of us they'd happily take Sharp cumming.
I'm all aboard Robey as a must. Id tuned out of Sharp, seems a perfect fit for WC, and not so much us, but geez hes become very underrated.

He elevated his game at Champs and was doing all the things he was being criticised for. No outside game, starting linking up in transition, doesn't hit scoreboard, no problem goes forward and kicks goals. Seemed pretty clear at that stage he shouldn't be there at our pick.

If Sharp was our best mid we would be in trouble. If hes our 3rd to 5th we are flying.
The part that people are sleeping on is his improvement around the ground, my guess is because he has always been so dominant as a junior with his inside game he hasn't really done much training on the outside for it, then you look at his massive improvement on the outside fron last yr, that's where I get very excited. Sure he may not have the best transition game in the league ever but based on his improvement from last yr to this yr id say there is potential to have an average to above average outside game which would be huge for a team that specifically drafted him as their inside defensive mid.
Alot are saying he doesn't have a massive ceiling which may be true, however I'd argue atm his outside game is not that fsr off CDT's ruck work.
 
LOL similar 'stylistic'

Hobbs and Clark wouldn't tie Sharp's shoe laces and had no where near the impact Sharp has had the last 2 years
Brayshaw , Dunkley , Libba , Mundy are also 'Stylistically' similar also

Wouldnt surprise me Sharp becomes the best 3 player's from this draft in 10 years time and does what Mundy did for 15+ years
Haha, reckon you might have misunderstood what stylistic is.

Libba would be the only one that is stylistically similar along with Hobbs and Clarke, they are pure inside mids, slow, poor kicks under pressure with virtually no outside game.

Brayshaw, Dunkley and Mundy are good kicks, show good spread and have positional versatility.

Don't get me wrong though, Sharp will prove to be a very good player but I reckon you can only have one of his type in the team, we already have Taranto, Hopper, Ross and McAuliffe with Kellaway to be added. If needs be then we can recruit an inside mid in 3-4 years time.
 

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You’re actually 100% off, that’s a long way. Also ignores any other draftees/rookies we pick up with sub 3.

Fred is slow bro… he plays slow too. That’s why he isn’t top 5 despite coming in to year with that rep. He isn’t tanking or anything like that, WA talent like f/s talent (Mcguane/Camporeale etc..) gets overrated because nobody actually watches them consistently until draft year and than their weakness get exposed.
Speed for mids is fine but not a must have specially when we are talking about a 10th of a second
speed of mind and hands are what is needed and already proven with the best mids
Bont , Green , Neal , Brayshaw , Cripps all still dominating their positions and for years now even m ost recently players like Langford.

jagga & Smillie were 3.09 just 7 100th off a player like Fred
Every year you only have about 10-12 players that would be under 3.0 and most dont make it.
its not the be all and end all for predominantly inside mids
 
Haha, reckon you might have misunderstood what stylistic is.

Libba would be the only one that is stylistically similar along with Hobbs and Clarke, they are pure inside mids, slow, poor kicks under pressure with virtually no outside game.

Brayshaw, Dunkley and Mundy are good kicks, show good spread and have positional versatility.

Don't get me wrong though, Sharp will prove to be a very good player but I reckon you can only have one of his type in the team, we already have Taranto, Hopper, Ross and McAuliffe with Kellaway to be added. If needs be then we can recruit an inside mid in 3-4 years time.
So you are assuming that Sharp is a bad kick ?
Ross is not a sharp type and neither is McAuliffe kellaway i agree with but he is a long shot and may only get to become a rookie. In 4 years time with No taranto or Hopper then Sharp is the only player of this Type at Richmond if we select him.

Anyway my preference is #1 Cumming for Richmond and 1 of Sharp or Robey with the other selection
so i wont die on the Sharp hill but the man is being criminally under rated due to how good he has been and people perception he has a reached his ceiling but we see players like Steel , Oliver , Neal , cripps etc dominating ball at the top level
 
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