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Weāve got holes everywhere!
Depth:
McGovern, Williams & L.Young
Players like the below, shouldnāt be on a list let alone getting regular games.
Barely Depth:
Motlop, Boyd, Fantasia, Fogarty, Cincotta
Games Gone Past:
Docherty, Acres & Saad
Depth:
McGovern, Williams & L.Young
Players like the below, shouldnāt be on a list let alone getting regular games.
Barely Depth:
Motlop, Boyd, Fantasia, Fogarty, Cincotta
Games Gone Past:
Docherty, Acres & Saad
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- Apr 20, 2006
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We would be needing crazy overs. He is the only one we have who can actually run.
- Apr 16, 2008
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Of course. No need to trade him this year unless we get overs. 2026 we are shaping to really drop away so he can leave as a FA then and we can get some top compensation
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Anyone still not want Bergman? Vs traffic cones tonight but the talent is there for all to see
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- Apr 16, 2008
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Have said for a couple of years now, gun
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It's amazing how fast a list can suddenly implode. I can't see any real upside. None of our kids really show anything to be particularly excited about.
Hollands tries but not going to be a star.
Who else really is there?
Hollands tries but not going to be a star.
Who else really is there?
TDK getting very close to be a delisted free agent the way hes going.
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Probably right.
Draft over the next 2 years is our friend. Iām convinced we need to get a fair few picks in over the next 2 years and reset
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Like Cerra, he just wants to get home. Doesn't care where to from all reports
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Someone we should go after and build around. He is the type we have been crying out for for years
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People were saying a pick in the 20s would be enoughkid is a gun
Hmmm i said 18 a week or so ago, i have adjusted that to 8-10
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Would need to be our TDK compo at a bare minimum. But would want him to nominate us solely and not want to go to any other clubs
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Delist/Trade at all costs: Boyd, Binns, Pittonet, Evans, Cincotta
On a knife's edge (at least 2): L.Young (utility), Lemmey (KPF), Monahan (medium utility), E.Hollands (fwd/mid)
Retirement possibilities: Saad, Docherty, Newman, McGovern, Fantasia, Haynes
Trade opportunities (at least 1): Motlop (mid/fwd), Durdin (fwd), Fogarty (fwd/wing), Acres (wing/mid)
Mega-trade opportunities: Walsh, Curnow
Probable incomings: Dean, Ison
Possible incomings: Gresham, Clark
On a knife's edge (at least 2): L.Young (utility), Lemmey (KPF), Monahan (medium utility), E.Hollands (fwd/mid)
Retirement possibilities: Saad, Docherty, Newman, McGovern, Fantasia, Haynes
Trade opportunities (at least 1): Motlop (mid/fwd), Durdin (fwd), Fogarty (fwd/wing), Acres (wing/mid)
Mega-trade opportunities: Walsh, Curnow
Probable incomings: Dean, Ison
Possible incomings: Gresham, Clark
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Iād support letting them all go and see if youāre right.
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Even if you get all your delistings (Pittonet crazy if TDK leaves) and a few retirements, we are pretty stuck. We have little trade currency and with a FA leaving we canāt offer too much for anyone new.
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A list that was in the top 8 for 23 weeks of 2022, played in a prelim in 23, was 2nd after round 16 in 2024, has not all of a sudden lost the ability to play. Our list has some issues no doubt but there is still a lot there.
When people dont like or dont trust the coach, everything drops off, plenty of quality teams have big losses and turn things around.
Austins habit of giving excessive contracts makes things an issue refreshing the list but it could happen quickly
When people dont like or dont trust the coach, everything drops off, plenty of quality teams have big losses and turn things around.
Austins habit of giving excessive contracts makes things an issue refreshing the list but it could happen quickly
Sad as it is to say but Docherty Saad Fantasia along with TDK and one other high paid player need to go
I would also clear out the plodders like Fogarty Binns and Evans. I reckon Boyd is done as well
Severe refresh coming with a minimum 8 changes
I would also clear out the plodders like Fogarty Binns and Evans. I reckon Boyd is done as well
Severe refresh coming with a minimum 8 changes
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I simply donāt get the āletās trade our best players to improve our listā approach.
Keeping our best players but getting them fitter, making them more accountable and supporting them better would be a much more sensible approach.
Keeping our best players but getting them fitter, making them more accountable and supporting them better would be a much more sensible approach.
Hard to argue, but very tough call.
If he pulled the appropriate draft capital or a player of need would have to consider despite the kick back. Looking back to our run to finals in ā23 it was almost Koutaesque (before disappearing in finals when I reckon was cooked). Has been a shadow since and certainly his intent is far from genuine.
Going to be off air for much of the next two days. Feel I will have a lot of catching up to do if I canāt find windows to check in.
We donāt have the draft capital to do too much mate. There are some great pieces coming. We do have to somewhat clear the decks to remove any on going negative influences. Having said that wouldnāt be against some long overlooked VFL staples getting a shot in the SSP window as well as adding a couple of partially hidden young talents (Flynn Riley definitely tops list for me)
The right coach/coaching group will quickly reinvigorate the group, but a conservative approach will put us in pergatory for another generation.
Hope Wright is up for it. Needs a confidante placed in Lloydās role ASAP to bounce things off of. Names like experienced Bartel or perhaps rising young star with a clear eye to senior management in Phil Davis might be a candidate. Clearly a thinker, but is connected and experienced. Having a prime role in the development of GWS in the formative years and the pitfalls along the way has some parallels with where we are heading. Our ābarbellā list structure lends itself to comparisons to a start up.
Smith and Walker in particular are going to head up our list rejig. Existing OāFarrell, OāKeeffe, Cowan, Lord, Campos and the slightly older Hollands head our future block along with Dean, Ison and other acquisitions. I may be delusional, but still see Moir as a piece of that. The Voss way of addressing weaknesses over strengths is not conducive to get where we/they need to be.
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Agree simply because we donāt have replacements on our list for any of them. By the end of next season we could have Williams, Doc, Newman, TDK, Gov and Saad off our list. We should have cash.
If we are talking draft and trade capital then we are somewhat in a crap position as we instantly have to replace our big name players for similar types which wonāt leave much left over to chase more then cheap options to fill our holes, something we should be able to do anyway. We would also be a very unattractive club atm. There is also a weak draft this season, potentially we may not be able to get above a Walker bid next year, then Tassie draft.
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A good LM would make it happen. There are ways
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