Autopsy 2025 Rd 16 Blues Consistent ... ly poor

[branedotorg]

So do you think say a John Longmire would get better results next year with this list?

I think this is mostly a result of a system that doesn't suit most players on the list combined with ongoing injury concerns and then with a clear disconnect between the coaches and players (blame both groups).

Tweaks in personnel and game plan bringing back confidence and we'll look a different team.

Not convinced our current admin and coaches can make those changes now though, might have gone too far.

 

[__Bobcat__]

If we get a good coach like Longmire or a good untried coach you give them the authotity to shape the list as they wish.

You also allow them to pick their own assistants.

YES. to Longmire,
He would have the intestinal fortitude to drop anyone whom isnt up to form.
Captains included.

 

[Gointocarlton]

YES. to Longmire,
He would have the intestinal fortitude to drop anyone whom isnt up to form.
Captains included.

If I had a choice of a dream team, it would be Longmire as GM of Footy, Voss retained as Coach and Adam Simpson as his senior assistant. Get rid of Greaves and Russell, Hansen to Coach the Fwds.

 

[SOS Rules]

Deplorable effort and totally unacceptable from the players compounded by carrying in underdone players into the match. Nick Haynes

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Nick Haynes

Age

33

Ht

192cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.4

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

326.8

4star

D

17.4

4star

K

13.9

5star

HB

3.5

2star

M

8.0

5star

T

1.5

2star

MG

326.8

5star

D

7.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.2

4star

and Zac Williams looked like the only two who tried the whole game. Charlie's efforts were better but he petered out as well with the typical poor supply on offer and the fact he couldn't take his chances. Billy and Flynn showed glimpses so I would persist with them. I'd like to see the Campo's in next week too.

I just want this season done with so that we can see significant correctional action taking place. Changes to coaching panel, footy department and playing list are required.

It will be fascinating to see how we go about it.

Having said that, we can still use this season to give game time to the newbies. It can' hurt.

 

[AlecDuncan]

Longmire as coach has the whiff of Malthouse all over again.

You want a coach to be the one that sets a new trend, which generally means a new face. Not that we've been great at spotting those.

 

[AlecDuncan]

In my view (and I’ll admit there may be bias) I don’t think the list itself is the core issue. There’s plenty of talent, but the group looks mentally checked out and clearly isn’t being coached to their strengths, which is showing up in their performances.

The list is always the issue, and the club can be just as blind as supporters to seeing problems with it.

Like it or not, we're in a mini-rebuild, and the remainder of 24 is about trying junior talent and sending required senior players off for surgery if needed. Pat TDK on the back, thank him for everything, and nail the compensation pick.

Some sacred cows will need to be slaughtered this offseason, and older senior players will need a good long look at themselves.

 

[ihavenoname]

An open letter to the players of the Carlton Football Club

I’m just a passionate, battle-scarred Carlton supporter who’s been through the highs and lows of life, much like you on the field. I’ve played junior footy, balled out in semi-pro basketball, and scouted future stars across the US with folks who’ve lived and breathed the game. What I’m about to say might not hit home for all of you, but I hope it sticks with a few. It’s a lesson I learned young and carried through my own journey.

Long after you’ve hung up your boots, four moments from your career will stay with you forever:

1. Your First Steps – That buzz of walking into Princes Park or Ikon as a newbie. Meeting your teammates, coaches, and learning what it means to be a Blue. Those early days, full of nerves and excitement, are what I call your foundation memories.
2. The Wins That Bind – The times you’re chasing glory together, united as a team. For many of you, it’s that electric second half of 2023. Remember the feeling after toppling Melbourne in that final? That’s the stuff that lives in your bones.
3. When the Chips Are Down – The tough times. Injuries, personal struggles, or life throwing curveballs. Think of teammates fighting through injuries, mental health, family health issues, deaths in the family, etc. It’s about how you rally around each other when it feels like the world’s against you.
4. The Final Siren – The end of your career, whether it’s your choice or not. The teammates who stand by you in your last season, the way they lift you up as you play your final games. Those moments will hit hard when you look back.

Here’s the kicker: right now, you’ve got mates at every one of these stages.

We’ve seen seven debutants this year, young guns stepping into the Navy Blue for the first time. There’s also a crop of kids grinding in the VFL, hungry for their shot or another opportunity. What are you doing to bring them into the fold? Are you showing them what it means to be a Carlton man, setting the standard for their growth?

2023 was a high for so many of you. That feeling of being a tight unit, like brothers charging into battle, unbreakable in your shared goals. That’s what it’s about. Hold onto that. You'll look back at these with pride wishing you'd worked your asses off for more.

But this year’s been brutal for some. Nic Newman, a club legend, is out for the season. Jagga Smith didn’t even get a chance to start. Brodie Kemp’s Achilles, Harry McKay’s mental health battles, Elijah Hollands’ challenges, and Ollie Hollands balancing being a supportive brother while building his young career. The list goes on. And it’s not just this year—think of Doc’s fight or Curnow’s knees. These are the moments that test you, not just as players but as mates. How are you stepping up for them? How will they look back at your influence and support?

This also applies to where you’re at as a team. Losses pile up, doubts creep in—about yourselves, your mates, your coaches, even the club. It’s easy to lose sight of the bigger picture. But these are the times that define you.

And then there’s the end. For some, this could be their last season in the game or at Carlton. Time moves fast—retiring players always say it ends before you’re ready. What are you doing to make their final chapter one to remember? What will they say about you when they’re looking back?

You can check out on a coach. It happens—sacks come, and you’ve all seen it before. But what lingers long after the coach is gone are the memories you create together. The moments that shape you as individuals and as a club. The culture you build that you’ll reflect on in 20, 30, or 50 years.

The last few months, especially the past two weeks, have been rough. That’s not good enough—not for the club, not for the fans, but most importantly, not for you. You don’t have to buy into the coach’s game plan or the club’s vision. What you do need to buy into is yourselves and each other.

This is your chance to shape the future. Welcome those young blokes into the club with open arms. Rally around your mates who are hurting. Celebrate every hard-fought win like it’s a premiership. And for those playing their final games, give them a send-off that honors everything they’ve poured into this club and into you.

You only get one shot at this. Your choices now will echo for the rest of your lives. You won’t always win, but you can always control the effort and heart you bring.

Choose wisely. Play with everything you’ve got. Make yourselves proud. Don't do it for me. Do it for you.

Forever a Blue, A grumpy older (than you) fan who’s been around the block

Well written. I wish the club would invite you down to training to say it to their faces. They are letting a lot slip away and this group have a very tight bond, I'm sure at least a few of them would think over these words were they to ever hear them.

 

[Wickzki]

Well written. I wish the club would invite you down to training to say it to their faces. They are letting a lot slip away and this group have a very tight bond, I'm sure at least a few of them would think over these words were they to ever hear them.

First, thank you.

However, I'm sure there's people that they admire and respect more than a fat middle aged fan who have told them similar. They got up against Geelong earlier in the year surrounded by the 1995 premiership team and the messages that they would have shared.

The message is there it just isn't sinking in.

 

[gab213]

Longmire as coach has the whiff of Malthouse all over again.

You want a coach to be the one that sets a new trend, which generally means a new face. Not that we've been great at spotting those.

We are still looking for the messiah; we never learn. No coach, does not matter how good he is, will solve all of our problems. The same way that Graeme Wright in isolation won't. Our problems run deeper.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

We are still looking for the messiah; we never learn. No coach, does not matter how good he is, will solve all of our problems. The same way that Graeme Wright in isolation won't. Our problems run deeper.

We won’t fix our issues until we start the process of:

1- Running or completing adequate due process without interference or steering of course.

2- Stop listening to or being influenced by entitled players.

3- Stop listening to or being influenced by entitled sponsors or power brokers.

 

[Bringbackeddie]

We’ve beaten 1x side (Cats x2) currently above the bottom six in Exactly 1 year of football. The elimination final last year against Brisbane where we started down 0-60 was perhaps one of the most telling losses of all - coach couldn’t even get them up and going for a final. There are many issues, but clearly the leadership of the club is broken - on field, off field and coaching included.